I'm upset/shocked, saw horse seriously beaten on way home.

[LivingTheDream92]

I just wanted to point it out - so many people DO rush in and 'try' to help, making things worse (trying to restrain someone who is fitting is what most people try to do). I would hate for someone to think I am 'doing nothing' when actually I am watching to ensure they are not swallowing their tongue, and waiting for the seizure to pass before I can actually be helpful. I wouldn't be comforting the nephew (I would be watching the person).

i wasnt implying that everyone should have jumped in, that would mean i was saying everyone should have rushed over to the badly behaving hacker and gone a bit OTT with it, i was just giving an example, not an epilepsy debate! :S but there was mnore than enough people around for one to look after the nephew while others did all the other very true things you suggested to do, i wasnt implying anything else, and i would never put a SPOON in someones mouth!!

 

[skewbald_again]

but how am i taking this too far? the OP did say these things but you bit someones head off for agreeing with the OP and giving her some constructive critisism?

honey, that is not me biting someone's head off, trust me, and that was NOT constructive *criticism* (def time we were all back in school )

 

[nativetyponies]

Awww, bless, are you looking forward to going back to school then?

Of course she is..she has me and jemima to deal with

 

[LivingTheDream92]

honey, that is not me biting someone's head off, trust me, and that was NOT constructive *criticism* (def time we were all back in school )

sorry for misspelling? :S well if you think it wasnt constructive then fair enough, there has been much less constructive things said in this post so each to their own i guess

 

[itsme123]

Had I been present, I'd probably have been tempted to beat the rider with the whip before she could knife/machete/shoot me.

Therefore I would have just drove on, as I don't fancy the chance of death or a GBH charge.

 

[martlin]

Of course she is..she has me and jemima to deal with

*shudders* I think I would rather go back to school, too.

 

[Munchkin]

Rosie, rosie, rosie. Of course it was meant as a joke - to lighten the mood, ya know?

Impossible with people who takes themselves as seriously as you on the thread!

Fortunately most people took it as intended.

 

[emma69]

Up until fairly recently it was considered the right thing to do - the spoon would stop the person swalling their tongue. There are still plenty of people around who were taught to do this years ago - I have stopped people doing it, as they consider it correct! Similar to putting butter on burns - how many parents would still do that (ok, maybe grandparents nowadays).

 

[caitlin95uk]

Aw i feel for you, i have before seen someone hit and hit their horse, and to all you who said "oh and you didnt stop"
i was walking home one day from the yard when i saw a girl leading her horse smacking him, yanking the reins, and i asked her what was wrong, the horse is a bit panicky so lets not get worked up, and i really wish even to this day that i didnt say that. she got angry at me shouted at me that it wasnt my business, i tried to explain i only wanted to help and said it would be best if i left but she kept hold of me, when her dad came, he also had a go at me and blamed me for the fall, i got threatened and i had never been so scared in my life and she finally let go of me and the dad stopped shouting when a nearby walker came and helped me, the rider was then angrier as she was angry at me for gettin involved and by this point she was hitting the horse again, taking the anger out on the poor horse.
so, now tell me it was a good idea to get involved.

 

[*hic*]

Whilst that was sweetly enthusiastic of you, you were what 14 or 15 when that happened I assume. No, it really wasn't a good idea to get involved as you found out because you're not experienced enough to recognise a situation that is escalating badly. It's fair enough to ask if they want help. If the answer is rudely rejected you then butt out - or risk the sort of reaction you got.

It would be great if it didn't put you off offering help again but after that sort of experience I can see why you wouldn't wish to.

 

[caitlin95uk]

Yes, i was about 13 so was a scary experience but now i dodge anyway, and think its not my horse why get involved.

 

[alwaysbroke]

Didnt think this thread would still be going, havent got time to catch up atm, bet it will have disappeared by tonight

 

[emma69]

And just to add to that, teens can unintentionally be patronizing when they offer to help, especially if the person is older. Depending on the tone of voice, it might have wound me up a tad, expressed as written.

 

[beetlejuice]

no wonder you had to type big. It must be quite tricky typing with your head up there!

Who exactly do you think you are to go telling people what they should have done in order to have a 'clear conscience' and accuse them of feeling guilty?

I am just astounded at how self righteous and self important some people are on this board.

excuse me i wasnt havent a go at her or anything or telling her what to feel, but its pretty clear she was feeling guilty and mortified otherwise why did she start the post!!! my personal opinion is she could have wound down the window and asked if she was ok. regardless of what happened afterwards and like i said at least she wouldnt have to feel guilty about it!

because you cant put any sort of emotion into writing on a forum people cant half take things the wrong way and twist what you say.

and when did i ever have a go at you? or the OP for that matter?

Anyway OP sorry if i have caused you any distress from reading my post and what i said wasnt meant to offend you.

 

[guido16]

Right thats it.

I think the OP should have jumped through her car window (starsky and hutch style) , rugby tackled the rider to the ground (in a kung foo fashion) and tied her up with a daisy chain (quickly made by the OP) then...... grabbed the horse, untacked it and shouted at it " run my gorgoeus beast, your free, run for the hills!!!"

Surely this is the right thing to do?
THEN........ we could all have a go at her for needless cruelty to daisies....

 

[mulledwhine]

Blimey my head is spinning after reading this....

AND RELAX

 

[baymareb]

I can't keep up with the knife wielding, lunatic, roves of teenage gangs leading obstreperous horses while having an epileptic fit. And I find it interesting that so many people seem to think the only two choices are to either drive by or yell at the person.

"Hi. Are you okay? Need some help?" Whatever happened to responses like that?

 

[miss_bird]

when i was lots younger a woman i used to ride for and i were out driving when we came across a young woman rider and the horse that was throwing a complete mental bucking and rearer all over the middle of the road rider still on horse (not sure how).
Anyway my friend got out car to help and was swore at by the rider (i think through embarrasement as loads of traffic around) my friend managed to get hold of the bridle and ignored the rider and calmed the horse down.
Maybe the completely the wrong thing to do but she lead the rider over to a green area and calmed down horse and rider completely by which time the rider was in serious tears.
The rider did thank my friend over and over and appologies for her earlier actions saying she was just so scared and completly out of control and with the traffic everywhere did not know what to do.
After seeing that happen i have always got out the car and offered help in a calm and helpful manner.
Yes on numerous occasions i have wanted to scream and hit riders but that gets no-one no where calm does work some times just takes a bit longer to get through.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

Rosie, rosie, rosie. Of course it was meant as a joke - to lighten the mood, ya know?

Impossible with people who takes themselves as seriously as you on the thread!

Fortunately most people took it as intended.

i must have an old fashioned sense of humour- all i see on here is sarcasm and cynicism, so put me on ignore if you dont like me--

 

[jhoward]

Right thats it.

I think the OP should have jumped through her car window (starsky and hutch style) , rugby tackled the rider to the ground (in a kung foo fashion) and tied her up with a daisy chain (quickly made by the OP) then...... grabbed the horse, untacked it and shouted at it " run my gorgoeus beast, your free, run for the hills!!!"

Surely this is the right thing to do?
THEN........ we could all have a go at her for needless cruelty to daisies....

sunroof.. the mental images were by far more entertaining.

 

[nativetyponies]

put me on ignore if you dont like me--

If everyone did that, you'd be talking to yourself

 

[Munchkin]

put me on ignore if you dont like me--

Since it's you that has a problem with everything I say, rather than the other way around, perhaps you should apply this logic yourself

Unfortunately I don't think there's a way of blocking people who trawl through the forum looking for things to be offended by, so that they cannot read your posts. This would be an excellent facility!

 

[azouria]

This seems more than a little unfair. It is all very well saying what you would/wouldn’t do, and i’m sure that some of you would get out and give the rider an earful/try to help, but please bear in mind that not everyone deals with these situations in the same way and as someone said before there are plenty of people (me included) who hate confrontation. And also, truth be told, there are a hell of a lot of assumptions being made for both cases—maybe she should have stopped, but nobody except Monsters will ever know what actually appeared to be going on or how the rider came across, so it’s not really fair to accuse. It would have probably been nice for the OP is someone had said that maybe she should have stopped and given suggestions (like some people have done) on how to approach the situation, without all the accusations?

 

[thatsmygirl]

Right, thanks it's been interesting.
I can't confront people due to my past life which I'm not going into on a public forum as it's unpleasant and after prison iv started life in a new area to start again. But the thought off confronting somebody after what iv been through fills me will terror. I wanted to stop and help but couldn't just couldn't.

 

[JoJo_]

Omg I cannot believe this post is still going on!

Monsters dont feel bad. You wernt in the wrong, the rider beating her horse is the one doing the wrong thing. Believe me you are not the only one who wouldnt have stopped and I dont think anyone can be sure what they would do until they have been in that situation themselves. Lets hope not many people on this forum will be!

 

[emma69]

I can utterly understand not wanting to confront someone. However, as others have said, confrontation is not the only way - a cheery 'hi, did you need a leg up' or 'can I help at all' is not confrontational. I wouldn't confront someone on my own, in the middle of a road. Plenty of ways to skin a cat and all that.

 

[ChesnutsRoasting]

Don't fret, OP, some comments on here are very harsh & unforgiving. Confidence is like a fine wine, it comes with ageing. Thus, when dealing with difficult people & confronting them, it becomes a delight, due to you not giving a rats arse what others think of you!

 

[narkymare]

Don't fret, OP, some comments on here are very harsh & unforgiving. Confidence is like a fine wine, it comes with ageing. Thus, when dealing with difficult people & confronting them, it becomes a delight, due to you not giving a rats arse what others think of you!

lol!!!!!!!!!!!
that is so true -I really dont give a fig as to what other people think of me now

 

[skewbald_again]

well I've been largely with the OP throughout this, but I have to say, the sudden appearance of the new life after prison card has made me miss a step.
I'm surprised you didn't mention this earlier, or come to that, that you mentioned it at all, when 'oh, sorry, I didn't explain, there are some rather complicated reasons that I'd rather not get mixed up in an argument' would probably have done.
Of course the OP is probably very genuine, but it is a pet hate of mine to watch an argument go on for days and then to have the 'wounded' party suddenly say 'how can you all be so horrible to me when my wife just died/ dog got run over/ house burned down/ pick any other element of a Country Song as required. Why? Because no one knew, because you witheld that part of the story.

 

[LauraBR]

What a bizarre thread

You know, it would actually be a really interesting and valid discussion about what people would/could/should do in such a situation, if you could edit out all the people determined to take offence at every opinion offered differing from their own.

In the OP's shoes I probably would have simply asked the rider, "Are you OK?" and gone from there. If she had bursted into tears, for example, and sobbed that she needed a hand I would most likely have given one; if she had told me to F off I would have driven on by with/without return expletives depending on my mood!