I'm upset/shocked, saw horse seriously beaten on way home.

[Paddydou]

Ditto that words CAN hurt but also wanted to add that on one of the occasions where I did step in I came out of it with bruising both to body and pride (that I couldn't punch back as hard... in fact I was a bit wet and didn't punch at all).

I don't think there is any right or wrong. At the end of the day if you can live with yourself and your actions either online or not that is all that will matter to you.

Just remember when you are "cyber bashing" that there are real live human beings on the other end. If you wouldn't say something to them when they are standing in front of you then don't say it on a forum.

Maesfen I suspect that you still have a lot to learn about the human condition and the luck to have many years to learn it in.

 

[Sarah Sum1]

Crikey, don't you ever think of growing a thick skin to protect yourselves?
They're only words, they don't actually, physically harm you and the sooner some people grow up and grow a pair of B**** the better for them unless they want to remain wimps for the rest of their life of course in which case, don't come running on here about how upset they are at seeing something like this and didn't do anything to help the horse.

You have to respect that not everyone will think the same as you do. It's great that you can knock comments away. But people that maybe have suffered from verbal abuse in their past will not be able to do that so easily. I think unless you can appreciate that not everyone reacts to things the same way, it will be hard to see why people act in certain ways.

But fair do's, each to their own. I just think understanding goes further than unhelpful comments.

If you could maybe explain how shouting at horse owner would have changed the situation then maybe we could understand where you are coming from? Bearing in mind, taking the horse from the woman would be the only way to prevent future beatings.

 

[LivingTheDream92]

wow! didnt realise this was a post to critisize someone who saw something horrible! some people have the courage to do something, others dont, and then some wish they did but couldnt at the time!

i would hate to witness anything like that, me being me i would have to do somethin about it, but not everyone is like that! i think everyones done something and wishes they had acted differently at least once.

recently witnessed someone having an epileptic fit and guess what everyone did! they stood there and watched! sometimes people make the wrong decision or dont act straight away, no need to bite eachothers heads off!! :S

 

[rosie fronfelen]

Exactly, words are never going to hurt you are they?



What's so wrong of being on the wrong end of an ear bashing, it doesn't exactly cause any harm to you except for a wounded pride? It might just have stopped the actual horse bashing at least for a while and the rider might have cooled down a bit afterwards. Anything to help the poor horse should surely have been done as long as it didn't endanger the OP.

Just remember this in future, sticks and stones may break my bones but WORDS will never hurt me

----but words CAN be very hurtful!!!

 

[AmyMay]

but words CAN be very hurtful!!!

Of course they can - we would all agree.

But in this instance?? Really people get a grip.

If we all went through life afraid of what someone was going to say to us when confronted how would we survive??

If I'm brutely honest, I actually think it's appalling that the OP said nothing - verbal abuse or no.

 

[AmyMay]

sorry, posted twice for some reason.

 

[Sarah Sum1]

Of course they can - we would all agree.

But in this instance?? Really people get a grip.

If we all went through life afraid of what someone was going to say to us when confronted how would we survive??

If I'm brutely honest, I actually think it's appalling that the OP said nothing - verbal abuse or no.

But I don't understand how saying anything would have helped the horse? If it's just to make a point that you disagree with her actions, then what is the point of winding her up more?

ETA I may well have shouted something out the window, but I can see that would do no good.

 

[AmyMay]

But I don't understand how saying anything would have helped the horse? If it's just to make a point that you disagree with her actions, then what is the point of winding her up more?

ETA I may well have shouted something out the window, but I can see that would do no good.

Ok, Sarah - so what you're saying is that if you see someone abusing an animal it's better not to say something - but just pass on bye, for fear of winding them up more?

Stoping and saying something means that the actions of the 'abuser' are momentarily halted whilst they respond. It may just be enough to end the behaviour at that immediate time.

 

[*hic*]

But I don't understand how saying anything would have helped the horse? If it's just to make a point that you disagree with her actions, then what is the point of winding her up more?

ETA I may well have shouted something out the window, but I can see that would do no good.

You see what I don't understand is why anyone thinks there was any need for shouting. I'd just have gone towards her and asked if she was having trouble and wanted a hand, no need to shout at all.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

sorry, posted twice for some reason.

well, for personal reasons i am not one for taking cruel words easily, i have dished them out in the past big time, but times change-

 

[Pearlsasinger]

Just remember when you are "cyber bashing" that there are real live human beings on the other end. If you wouldn't say something to them when they are standing in front of you then don't say it on a forum.

Maesfen I suspect that you still have a lot to learn about the human condition and the luck to have many years to learn it in.

Sorry this really made me laugh!
I was just wondering whether to bother posting that it seems to me that the majority of people who have said that they would/have intervened are the older more experienced members and that might be why we DO have the confidence to say something and follow it through.
Having said that although I know that Monsters can hardly be called 'middle-aged' she has certainly come across on here before as willing to tell it like it is. Perhaps it is different when she is in a face-to-face situation.
Can I suggest that new members find out a bit about people they are replying directly to - it's not very difficult.

 

[skewbald_again]

and in any case, in an ideal world, whatever, but people ARE scared to take people on, people ARE scared of teenagers in gangs, even if they are harmless, people ARE scared of spiders, even though in this country they're almost definitley harmless.

It's ridiculous to come on here and beat someone up who already regrets not having had the courage to act, and asks what on earth she can do now.

I suspect all this 'get a grip' and 'man up' nonsense is coming mainly from youngsters who have not had time to be knocked around enough to think twice before leaping in where angels fear to tread. The idealism of youth is fine thing. The wisdom of age has a lot going for it too. Not that you'll believe that part for a few years yet.

 

[LivingTheDream92]

at least the posts are getting constructive again XD

AMYMAY- true, if we can each confront someone who does something horrible to horses then soo many horses could be treated better! and so many shows could be more enjoyable without having to watch people be horrible to their horses

but then maybe next time the OP will be able to pluck up the courage to say something, it must be pretty horrible having to see someone being so horrible and a shock the first time you see it.

KENZO- good idea! if they are hacking in the area then they are probably at a local yard

 

[SplashofSoy]

Its difficult to know how to react in situations like these and hindsight is a wonderful thing.

If I had been driving alone as OP and not appropriate dressed I would probably have stopped and from the safety of my car asked if i could call someone for her to come and help etc rather than help myself. If horse is upset it could potentially be dangerous to handle and you could end up hurt if not wearing hat/gloves/boots etc.

I was not there so dont know if this was the case but no matter how upsetting you must put your safety first but offer help if it is safe to do so.

 

[AmyMay]

You see what I don't understand is why anyone thinks there was any need for shouting. I'd just have gone towards her and asked if she was having trouble and wanted a hand, no need to shout at all.

Exactly.

 

[Sarah Sum1]

Fair do's.

 

[Paddydou]

You see what I don't understand is why anyone thinks there was any need for shouting. I'd just have gone towards her and asked if she was having trouble and wanted a hand, no need to shout at all.

Well I am glad to hear that you are able to live life as a saint...

For what its worth thats what I said when I was lumped... You never can tell you really can't.

You also do not ever know what you will do.

There have been several occasions when I have not stepped up when I wish I had for whatever reason and there have been several when I wish I had stayed down. Each situation is different. For crying out loud I once stood to one side while a kid was struggling in a swimming pool because I had my period. It took a few extra seconds for someone else to jump in and the kid was fine but seriously was that a good enough "excuse" for not doing something quicker?

I have also stood up when no one else would to help people I have sometimes been thanked and sometimes been hounded. You just never know when you go into a situation what will happen next.

 

[martlin]

It's quite fascinating how a woman having a tantrum with her horse on a road has managed to turn into a knife brandishing, fire breathing potential killer in a matter of 200 odd posts...
From some of the responses here and safety measures suggested I wonder how many of you are brave enough to walk out of your front doors on daily basis
Honestly, you don't need to throw yourself in a danger's way, as I said before, just wind your window down and ask if the woman is OK and if she needs any help - it's not difficult, it's not dangerous and more likely than not it would diffuse the situation enough for all parties to regain their senses.

 

[LivingTheDream92]

Well I am glad to hear that you are able to live life as a saint...

For what its worth thats what I said when I was lumped... You never can tell you really can't.

You also do not ever know what you will do.

There have been several occasions when I have not stepped up when I wish I had for whatever reason and there have been several when I wish I had stayed down. Each situation is different. For crying out loud I once stood to one side while a kid was struggling in a swimming pool because I had my period. It took a few extra seconds for someone else to jump in and the kid was fine but seriously was that a good enough "excuse" for not doing something quicker?

I have also stood up when no one else would to help people I have sometimes been thanked and sometimes been hounded. You just never know when you go into a situation what will happen next.

pretty much sums it up! noones perfect!

 

[Paddydou]

Sorry this really made me laugh!
I was just wondering whether to bother posting that it seems to me that the majority of people who have said that they would/have intervened are the older more experienced members and that might be why we DO have the confidence to say something and follow it through.
Having said that although I know that Monsters can hardly be called 'middle-aged' she has certainly come across on here before as willing to tell it like it is. Perhaps it is different when she is in a face-to-face situation.
Can I suggest that new members find out a bit about people they are replying directly to - it's not very difficult.

Lets hope that I have inadvertantly complimented her then!

Sadly I don't tend to stalk people either in reality or cyber space so I am afriad I have to wing it a bit rather than delve into the back grounds and past posts of people... I don't have the time, inclination or enthusiasm for such things.

 

[*hic*]

Wow, offered a medal and a sainthood all on one thread. I must get involved in contentious threads more often.

 

[guido16]

I seriously think that some members on this forum are on class A drugs these days.

It is becoming the norm for perfectly normal threads to turn in to WW III.

I think I am going to set up home behind my sofa and not come out.......just in case the bogey man gets me..

 

[nativetyponies]

Wow, offered a medal and a sainthood all on one thread. I must get involved in contentious threads more often.

and now you're going to tell us you're Mother Teresa...

(its possible...allsorts of celebs come on here, you know )

 

[*hic*]

and now you're going to tell us you're Mother Teresa...

(its possible...allsorts of celebs come on here, you know )

SHHHHHHH don't tell them!

 

[skewbald_again]

and now you're going to tell us you're Mother Teresa...

(its possible...allsorts of celebs come on here, you know )

though this might be the first dead one.

 

[nativetyponies]

though this might be the first dead one.

NOOOO...she's not dead is she?

well, blow me down.....

 

[*hic*]

though this might be the first dead one.

I'm sure I saw Elvis on here the other week!

 

[skewbald_again]

I'm sure I saw Elvis on here the other week!

That explains a lot.

 

[nativetyponies]

I'm sure I saw Elvis on here the other week!

Me too..he was having a beer with princess Di..

 

[*hic*]

That explains a lot.

Aha that big grin smiley doesnt work for you either - it puts it in as : D but changes when you submit or preview - BUG!