Incident with land owner - WWYD?

JT, thanks for filling us in. There are always 2 sides to a story.
Hope he is ok, it sounds like he is being very reasonable excepting an apology, but as we all well know villages are small places and being the bigger person is the right thing to do. Hope he is ok.
OP, no doubt you a still reading, apologise, put it behind you and ride responsibly.
 
NeverSayNever said:
he could have let go as she asked - the fact she had to use force to get away from him would make me question his motives - what was his next move? Assault, rape, murder??? THAT is outrageous, in this day and you can’t be too careful! As you rightly point out, he could have tracked her down easily so why try to detain her? :rolleyes:
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And she could have given him her details, fake or not, or she could have got her phone out and dialled 999. The truck did not materialise out of thin air, she would have heard it coming or seen it. If he had an alterior motive he would be sitting in a ditch on a bridle way. As I also said before, is it not possible OP has been in the field previously? Maybe he has seen her but as been unable to catch up with her but this time he did, maybe she has damaged something? Why should he have to chase around finding where she lives, go to her house and then probably be confronted by her and her OH? OP says LO she galloped off with LO 'hot on her heels', well, unless he is Ussein Bolti don't see how that was a problem, why wouldn't he be angry, he had just been walloped, several times, for what, asking a ? And holding 1 rein.
She shouldn't have been there and she knows it,
 
You lot are going round in circles with your arguements. Bottom line is you have only the OPs side of the story (who might be a troll) OP was in the wrong in the first instance and hopefully will go to this meeting and things will calm down. I suspect OP wont come back on here to update the situation !
 
Some of these scenarios you guys are making up to justify the landowner's decision to grab the horse are truly hilarious, guys.

Imagine, you're on a ride, your horse gets nervous and starts bouncing around, and some random stranger on foot decides he's going to calm your horse down by grabbing its bridle and hang on for dear life, even when you tell him to let go. I bet you'd appreciate that.
 
martlin said:
So, let me get it straight, ok?
Lets assume that I have 30 acres of winter wheat - the wheat rarely has tendency to leg it on the road... You are suggesting I should fence it, thus spend, what, £7K to just make sure you don't trample it on your horse?
You must be kidding me :o
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How else are you going to prevent horse riders or kids messing on motor bikes from tearing up the land? An open field with no fencing? Now how's that going to stop people trespassing?
 
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Sorry shadeyoak, the fact is most of us know we shouldn't be on a field like that and so wouldn't be there in the first place! Anyone deliberately setting out to cause damage is going to do so regardless of a fence in the way, so why should a farmer waste money fencing his land to prevent ignorant riders trashing his crops?

No wonder most of the public are of the opinion that horsey people are a law unto themselves if this is the way some of us behave!

We all need to show some respect for the property of others.
 
Shadeyoak said:
How else are you going to prevent horse riders or kids messing on motor bikes from tearing up the land? An open field with no fencing? Now how's that going to stop people trespassing?
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Actually, I would expect that kids are taught by their parents to respect other's property, and as to people on motorbikes - I would take number plates and bring charges for trespass and criminal damage.
It's not my job to prevent them from trespassing, fencing arable crops is neither financially viable nor practical.
 
So Shadey, you'd like to see farmers, producing your food, spend millions of pounds fencing in crops that are highly unlikely to leg it so that riders don't ride on them. I assume you've not thought what this would do to their bottom line and the effect this would have on the price of the food you and your horse both eat

Are you a fencing contractor by any chance?

Most people know and understand that if it's not yours and you do not have express permission you don't use it, whether it's other people's land, other people's gardens or other people's cars.
 
Shadeyoak said:
How else are you going to prevent horse riders or kids messing on motor bikes from tearing up the land? An open field with no fencing? Now how's that going to stop people trespassing?
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I'm sorry. Weren't you taught that you shouldn't touch anything that doesn't belong to you; is it that hard to comprehend that it applies to property as well and you should respect other's property? Why is a field any different to your garden? Oh hang on, it's highly unlikely that your garden will be productive in the monetary scheme but a field is whether that's growing crops of the cereal kind or grazing; it's still a crop and it's not anyone else's right to play around in it other than the owner at all.
 
Moral of the thread: Its ok to be a complete arrogant obnoxious person and ride where you like

Most landowners will be male and you can bitchslap them if they try and stop you indulging in this hobby

Anyone who says you are arrogant or obnoxious is a bully

Any person trying to stop you being arrogant or obnoxious wants clearly wants to rape you on the spot, so therefore self defense is quite clearly justified

You know hunting folk went to court when they whipped antis holding on to their horses, ahhh but that's ok as the antis probably didn't want to rape them....
 
FWIW, she can't have been that concerned about the horse's mouth as per the original post as she regularly rides in a pelham with just the curb rein (no roundings). I have encountered her out hunting (same pack) and can verify the local opinion Jess gave of her...
 
I'm just realising that should I meet someone riding across my land the trick is to accept their assurance that they will be leaving, grab their whip in case they hit me with it and use it to whack the horse across the backside to ensure that they leave at speed.:D:D:D:D:D
 
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Dee O'Dorant said:
So Shadey, you'd like to see farmers, producing your food, spend millions of pounds fencing in crops that are highly unlikely to leg it so that riders don't ride on them. I assume you've not thought what this would do to their bottom line and the effect this would have on the price of the food you and your horse both eat

Are you a fencing contractor by any chance?

Most people know and understand that if it's not yours and you do not have express permission you don't use it, whether it's other people's land, other people's gardens or other people's cars.
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You don't know me from adam , so don't make assumptions about me.
As food becomes more expensive especially through shortages of grain etc, it is going to become ever so more important to protect your land, so at some point securing the field is going to be the only way, you can bang your head against the wall as much as you like, there are always going to be people who will not listen.
It's the few that spoil it for the many, instead of taking it out on me, some one who DOES respect other people's property, try taking it out on those who DO trespass onto farmers land intentionally.
 
So I should fence my front garden to keep people out? Don't think so!
I know, when I ride past 30 acres of expensive wheat, that its not mine to ride across.
It really is as SIMPLE as that!
 
Jen_Cots said:
Moral of the thread: Its ok to be a complete arrogant obnoxious person and ride where you like

Most landowners will be male and you can bitchslap them if they try and stop you indulging in this hobby

Anyone who says you are arrogant or obnoxious is a bully

Any person trying to stop you being arrogant or obnoxious wants clearly wants to rape you on the spot, so therefore self defense is quite clearly justified

You know hunting folk went to court when they whipped antis holding on to their horses, ahhh but that's ok as the antis probably didn't want to rape them....
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:D :D :D :D :D

I cannot believe how many people have moved from the LO wanting to know the trespasser's details to wanting to rape & murder said trespasser :eek:
 
My local bowling greens & cricket club have open access, doesn't mean I'd ride on them because they aren't locked up, anymore than I'd ride across random farmland. My front garden & most of those we hack past aren't fenced either, does that mean its ok for people to use them? Ridiculous argument.
 
jrp204 said:
And she could have given him her details, fake or not, or she could have got her phone out and dialled 999. The truck did not materialise out of thin air, she would have heard it coming or seen it. If he had an alterior motive he would be sitting in a ditch on a bridle way. As I also said before, is it not possible OP has been in the field previously? Maybe he has seen her but as been unable to catch up with her but this time he did, maybe she has damaged something? Why should he have to chase around finding where she lives, go to her house and then probably be confronted by her and her OH? OP says LO she galloped off with LO 'hot on her heels', well, unless he is Ussein Bolti don't see how that was a problem, why wouldn't he be angry, he had just been walloped, several times, for what, asking a ? And holding 1 rein.
She shouldn't have been there and she knows it,
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i DO agree with you that she should have phoned the police straight away if she felt threatened. and I DO agree she was probably somewhere she shouldn’t have been.. but I also still maintain that he in turn crossed a line and opened himself up to all sorts by trying to detain her.
 
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