Interesting article about temperature regulation in horses. Worth a read

Ambers Echo said:
Yes! Hence the importance of anonymous peer review in academic papers to prevent people being distracted by 'names'. I was very surprised at how DM reacted though. Scientists disagree with each other all the time. That's why they publish a full account of how they arrived at theor conclusions so others can scrutinise what they say and either support it, question it or refute it. Ok I can see how very knowledgeable people being critiqued by Prof Google is irksome but many of the comments on this thread were perfectly reasonable questions. Not sure why an ego-massaging visit to FB was necessary.
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Peer reviews don't usually involve calling other people's work/opinions "rubbish"/"wrong" though. I can understand perfectly how annoying that might be.
 
I'm not too sure about the 1-2 togs rating for a winter coat. Are we just talking about tbs here?

When you're confronted with a cob winter coat that's an inch thick and can be sculpted like a Chinese carpet.... I reckon that's the equivalent of wearing a sheepskin coat... And even I wouldn't want another coat on top of one of them!
 
Pearlsasinger said:
Peer reviews don't usually involve calling other people's work/opinions "rubbish"/"wrong" though. I can understand perfectly how annoying that might be.
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Indeed, ycbm could and should have been more diplomatic in her comments. She has since acknowledged this. However, Dr David Marlin has continued with his utterly unprofessional personal rants on FB, and many of the comments are still there tonight.
 
Tiddlypom said:
Indeed, ycbm could and should have been more diplomatic in her comments. She has since acknowledged this. However, Dr David Marlin has continued with his utterly unprofessional personal rants on FB, and many of the comments are still there tonight.
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I've just had a look at the thread on fb.... Pathetic!
 
Goldenstar said:
Of course it is .
I sometimes think ‘science ‘ stops people learning to use common sense .
If your horse is cold rug it ,if your horses loses weight easily keep it a bit warmer than a fat one it really is very simple .
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Isn't 'common sense' what leads people to over-rug? My old YO rugs her horses when SHE is cold. Makes perfect sense to her! I would worry about mine being cold if I did not understand some of the science around how horses stay warm.
 
As a scientist I genuinely still don't understand the reluctance to discuss things further when things come into question, I was very disappointed at the number of actually quite interesting and informed comments when he posted about dogs during the summer that were deleted rather than addressing the points, even if you still disagree with them. It is totally alien to me to not discuss and address people's criticisms when dealing with science, IME it always happens between different research groups and when you are researching a fairly niche area you do tend to end up reviewing each others papers. I'm aware it was a BIG lesson for me to learn but certainly made me a better scientist than I was.
 
ester said:
As a scientist I genuinely still don't understand the reluctance to discuss things further when things come into question, I was very disappointed at the number of actually quite interesting and informed comments when he posted about dogs during the summer that were deleted rather than addressing the points, even if you still disagree with them. It is totally alien to me to not discuss and address people's criticisms when dealing with science, IME it always happens between different research groups and when you are researching a fairly niche area you do tend to end up reviewing each others papers. I'm aware it was a BIG lesson for me to learn but certainly made me a better scientist than I was.
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I had a look at his reasearch last night ... it was all very niche about pulmonary transfer during exercise mainly... I didn’t see anything about heat loss in a stable or not as the case may be.
 
blitznbobs said:
Any respect I had for the man has just been lost ... I’ve read the fb page and it’s the most bullying, disrespectful load of tosh I’ve ever read. And he calls himself professional... and an educator.
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Ive just read it too.

I never comment on these type of threads, my wee little brain just doesn't want to know. Its full of fluffy unicorns, and hasn't the space for physics/difficult stuff. But I do read them, as I love a good / bad debate. Yes this forum has its characters, but wouldn't it be a very boring place if it didn't ? What Dr Dave did was in very poor taste, and to take it to a level where he singled ycbm out was unforgiveable, and totally unprofessional. If you have a problem with someone, take it off line and sort it.

and as for rugging ( thought I should at least try and contribute) , I rug mine if they are cold, and don't if they are not. That's as much as my ickle brain can work out. None are rugged at the moment.
 
ester said:
As a scientist I genuinely still don't understand the reluctance to discuss things further when things come into question, I was very disappointed at the number of actually quite interesting and informed comments when he posted about dogs during the summer that were deleted rather than addressing the points, even if you still disagree with them. It is totally alien to me to not discuss and address people's criticisms when dealing with science, IME it always happens between different research groups and when you are researching a fairly niche area you do tend to end up reviewing each others papers. I'm aware it was a BIG lesson for me to learn but certainly made me a better scientist than I was.
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Yeah, it's a weird one - I've often wondered in exchanges of his on here before, whether his odd resentment to discussing the principles he's writing about is something to do with being in the equine veterinary field. But since I don't know any other academic in that field....I don't know, it is weird.
 
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