lottiepony
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I finally have a copy on DVD. My evening is sorted. As you were... 
International Velvet
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Capriole
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I still love that film.
Carry on...
:lol:
Carry on...
:lol:
ElleSkywalker
As excited as Kitty about to be a bridesmaid
'I need a new saddle. It just won't do'
:biggrin3:
:biggrin3:
Tnavas
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An old, old boyfriend of mine was the person hired to transport the horses around, and in one brief shot is seen at a distance leading the mare/foal across a field.
It's rather a cute movie. Love the original National Velvet, my friends daughter has a copy and knows the script for all the characters by heart.
It's rather a cute movie. Love the original National Velvet, my friends daughter has a copy and knows the script for all the characters by heart.
blitznbobs
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Yes but what is wrong with sedation ???????
Arizahn
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How did the Pie end up a stallion when in National Velvet he is simply a gelding who was cut late?
happyclappy
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Love National Velvet , International Velvet not quite a good. I read the book National Velvet long before seeing the film...but the film did not let me down.
Have a great evening
Have a great evening
lar
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How did the Pie end up as not a piebald? Makes a bit of a nonsense of his name really!
Adore National Velvet the book - it's one of my all time favourites. Can't stand the film
International Velvet however is one of my guilty pleasures - hugely corny but love it anyway
Adore National Velvet the book - it's one of my all time favourites. Can't stand the film
International Velvet however is one of my guilty pleasures - hugely corny but love it anyway
Capriole
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Was he a piebald? I thought not. I thought he was a bright chestnut with a blaze and stockings. Don't remember him being piebald. In the film anyway. Never read the book but if hes a piebald in the book that makes sense.
eta: That doesnt make sense if he was a piebald and raced in the National anyway, did they allow coloured horses to run under rules back then? *shrugs off her lack of historic racing knowledge and goes for a cuppa*
eta: That doesnt make sense if he was a piebald and raced in the National anyway, did they allow coloured horses to run under rules back then? *shrugs off her lack of historic racing knowledge and goes for a cuppa*
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OldNag
Wasting my time successfully....
One of my favourite films, though it always has me in tears. handily my kids love it too so I get to watch it frequently!
Tnavas
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A good synopsis of 'National Velvet' here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Velvet
He definitely was Piebald but doesn't mention if he was gelded
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Velvet
He definitely was Piebald but doesn't mention if he was gelded
tankgirl1
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I remember him as a slightly chunky bright chestnut in National velvet (film), then he was a bay TB in International Velvet lol!
Who cares - I loved both films as a kid, would love to watch them again!
Capriole
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Yes, I remember him changing colour for that, lol.
I'm not a fan of National Velvet at all, I'd have watched it and enjoyed it as a kid because, you know. Horse. But I couldn't sit through it now.
International Velvet though, fab.
FrostyFeet
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You lucky bean 😀
Do you mind me asking where you managed to track down a copy? Have only seen it for sale for US DVD players..
Do you mind me asking where you managed to track down a copy? Have only seen it for sale for US DVD players..
tankgirl1
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armchair_rider
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I have the book of International Velvet but not the film. Oh well, I suppose we can all go round to Lottie's
NZJenny
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In the book National Velvet, the horse is very definatley a piebald. Have never seen the movie - but I'm sure Hollywood did it's worse!
Fools Motto
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The Pie in National Velvet was the sire of Arizona Pie in International Velvet. ''Sarah's'' Aunt ''Velvet'' rode in the national, hence the connection, and had the stallion, Arizona Pie being his last offspring? - That's how I read it. As for colour of The Pie, I don't have a clue (although he was chestnut with 4 whites in the film I saw?!)
WelshD
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just bought a copy on ebay
Arizahn
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National Velvet, Chapter Four (page 61 of my copy):
"Isn't his neck thick?" said Edwina.
"Bit," said Mi. "Bin gelded late."
The piebald, whose desires were gone, had kept his pride. He walked after Velvet like a stocky prince.
Yes, he was a piebald gelding, whose breeding was unknown (discussed later when Mi and Velvet are registering him for the National). The blacksmith jokes about the horse having been not properly gelded during the selling of the raffle tickets in Chapter Three, but it is described as him "having his joke". So it could be believed that Pie was perhaps a rig, but I have issues believing that he was a stallion. It was my main gripe with the sequel, tbh.
lottiepony
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Hopefully this will work using my phone : http://www.vicpine.co.uk/international-velvet.htm
I'm always a bit slow on recognising actors in films but had never realised its Anthony Hopkins who plays the captain!!?!?
I'm always a bit slow on recognising actors in films but had never realised its Anthony Hopkins who plays the captain!!?!?
DJ
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Heads over to amazon to order both films lol ... will I need tissues?
Capriole
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Possibly. But happy tissues. Mmmm, and maybe for the bit on the plane.
DJ
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Tnavas
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Definitely!
OldNag
Wasting my time successfully....
Definitely. I don't cry much at films but International Velvet has me blubbing all through.
NZJenny
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Apparently Monty Roberts is Liz Taylor's riding double in National Velvet.
I read National Velvet again as an adult, and it is quite different to reading it as a child.
I read National Velvet again as an adult, and it is quite different to reading it as a child.
Tnavas
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That I find a bit suspect as Monty was born in 1935 and the movie was made in 1944, that would make him just 9 years old
marmalade76
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It's very many years since I saw the film, but I think that the name was changed by Velvet to The Pie from Pirate 'cause pirates weren't very nice..
NZJenny
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Monty remained undeterred from his vision and later became a champion Western horseman. Hollywood hired him as a “stand in” rider and stunt double for stars such as Elizabeth Taylor in National Velvet and many other films. He even worked with James Dean during the pre-production and filming of the acclaimed movie East of Eden - See more at: http://www.montyroberts.com/ab_about_monty/ab_about_monty/#sthash.EbYYRmSz.dpuf