Goldenstar
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Oh dear , some people ,our vets now adding heart worm into their worming regimes because they are seeing the first UK acquired cases .
Perhaps that’s racist as well.
Irresponsible Owners
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Perhaps that’s racist as well.
GSD Woman
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In the US heartworm used to be confined to the far southern states that bordered the Gulf of Mexico. It's now spread through out most of the US. I guess we're all racist here too.
blackcob
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Facebook is kindly serving me nothing but reels of ‘Boerboel Blade’ if anyone else needs to roll their eyes at something today.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
I get loads of wee tiny girls in skimpy clothes with Malis/very striking LSH GSDs doing very fancy heelwork in their back gardens/sterile environment. Never up to their eyes in mud tracking, or covered in bruises or with broken nails after protection, lolz.
Jenko109
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Ugh. I hate this guy.
The two most recent videos I saw were one of his dog nearly walking into the path of oncoming traffic and another of it going into someones front garden, making their cat feel threatened.
He cares more for his pride than he does the welfare of his or other people's animals.
Maddie Moo
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In the vet this morning, two dogs roaming around on extendable leads including one who decided they would chose to sit in the cat waiting area (clearly signposted) rather than the dog waiting area 
Also one spaniel was barking constantly and the owner insisted on staying in there, upsetting the other dogs rather than take their dog outside to calm down.
Surely letting your dog wander around and randomly greet strange dogs in a vet is a massive no no!? What if they were contagious FGS
Also one spaniel was barking constantly and the owner insisted on staying in there, upsetting the other dogs rather than take their dog outside to calm down. Surely letting your dog wander around and randomly greet strange dogs in a vet is a massive no no!? What if they were contagious FGS
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
I was the irresponsible one the other day, I could hear some very loud YOUTHS gobbing off just outside the house, Missymoo got out of the car angry because someone was on Her Patch, so I just let her bark, she came out of the gate on her hind legs, again, I let her, they looked a bit contrite, and moved on, but I reassured them with a breezy 'don't worry, she'll probably bite me before she bites you!' (not a lie) and then we met them again later up the path and she was fine once they were away from her gaff, just a bit look-y as they had a big sports bag which looked like PREY.
blackcob
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I was also the irresponsible one today, reminder to self that if you think ‘good lord, this is just not working today’ it’s probably a sign to sling the dog back in the car and try again another time. Not to press on, frustrated. Frustrated is not a good look on either of us. 
rabatsa
Confuddled
Next door have the flippin jack russel that they had rehomed back, children could not live without it apparantly. This is a dog that spent over 23 hours a day in solitary confinement, along with the two ridgebacks, and who has been involved in killing another of their dogs and putting at least 5 dogs into the vet hospital in the last couple of years.
SaddlePsych'D
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I don't know why I did this to myself but I opened the comments section on a video of someone's dog being harassed by another dog. It's not an approach I'd take (i.e., keeping dog in down stay while the other dog was sniffing round and barking at it), mainly because we haven't installed down stay and 'down' is actually quite patchy on less than desirable surfaces 
I just have found most incoming dogs can be fairly easily discouraged with a strong 'no!' and then your dog doesn't have to put up with their crap.
Anywho the comments were full of people saying that 'owners like that make my blood boil' - not for the one oblivious to their dog annoying someone else but to the person who had the audacity to not want their personal space invaded by some random dog. It' not fair because then they can't make friends and this is why there's so many problem dogs because they're not socialised yadda yadda. That's right, the nicely trained dog listening to it's owner and minding their own business together were the problem.
Just...no! Also my dog has a couple of dog 'friends'. One is a tripaw and she is careful around him. It is very cute. She doesn't need randoms getting in her snoot.
I just have found most incoming dogs can be fairly easily discouraged with a strong 'no!' and then your dog doesn't have to put up with their crap. Anywho the comments were full of people saying that 'owners like that make my blood boil' - not for the one oblivious to their dog annoying someone else but to the person who had the audacity to not want their personal space invaded by some random dog. It' not fair because then they can't make friends and this is why there's so many problem dogs because they're not socialised yadda yadda. That's right, the nicely trained dog listening to it's owner and minding their own business together were the problem.
Just...no! Also my dog has a couple of dog 'friends'. One is a tripaw and she is careful around him. It is very cute. She doesn't need randoms getting in her snoot.
AmyMay
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Tell us where the post is so that we can all jump on.I don't know why I did this to myself but I opened the comments section on a video of someone's dog being harassed by another dog. It's not an approach I'd take (i.e., keeping dog in down stay while the other dog was sniffing round and barking at it), mainly because we haven't installed down stay and 'down' is actually quite patchy on less than desirable surfaces
Anywho the comments were full of people saying that 'owners like that make my blood boil' - not for the one oblivious to their dog annoying someone else but to the person who had the audacity to not want their personal space invaded by some random dog. It' not fair because then they can't make friends and this is why there's so many problem dogs because they're not socialised yadda yadda. That's right, the nicely trained dog listening to it's owner and minding their own business together were the problem.
Just...no! Also my dog has a couple of dog 'friends'. One is a tripaw and she is careful around him. It is very cute. She doesn't need randoms getting in her snoot.
fiwen30
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I like my partner’s 6 year old JR-x bitch about 80% of the time. She’s a game, plucky, funny, affectionate little thing. The remaining 20% of the time is when my partner and I are sitting or lying close together, and the little horror will resource guard him from me.
It takes the form of the dog squeeeeezing herself into any gap between us, and then fixing me with the most unnerving, unblinking, hard, staring, stink-eye I’ve ever seen from a dog. With or without the tinniest of low grumbles - not quite a growl, but definite unpleasant complaint noise.
Any time it happens, I avert my eyes from her, stay very still, and point out to my partner that his little beast is glaring at me again. She’ll be put on the floor, but is immediately back up and doing the same thing again. We don’t live together, and I’m only there maybe once a week, it’s not like I have any say in how the dog has been raised or trained; but it certainly puts me off wanting to live with her in the future, unless it’s addressed.
It takes the form of the dog squeeeeezing herself into any gap between us, and then fixing me with the most unnerving, unblinking, hard, staring, stink-eye I’ve ever seen from a dog. With or without the tinniest of low grumbles - not quite a growl, but definite unpleasant complaint noise.
Any time it happens, I avert my eyes from her, stay very still, and point out to my partner that his little beast is glaring at me again. She’ll be put on the floor, but is immediately back up and doing the same thing again. We don’t live together, and I’m only there maybe once a week, it’s not like I have any say in how the dog has been raised or trained; but it certainly puts me off wanting to live with her in the future, unless it’s addressed.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Put it on the floor, and it stays on the floor. On a lead if need be.
SaddlePsych'D
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I can't remember now, it was something randomly in my FB feed.
fiwen30
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Oh 100%. If it was my dog, the first hard stare would have it out the room. Unfortunately, it is not my dog.
The family have 4 dogs between them - 3 terriers, and a lab - and both my partner and his mum spoil their respective terriers half to death. My partner’s JR-x is considerably more well-rounded than his mums chi-JR (which is my partner’s bitch’s sire, to boot), as she lets him away with absolute murder.
His mum’s dog rules the pack - he resource guards food, furniture, and people from the other dogs, and would guard toys too if he was large enough to carry them, as well a guarding his mum from other people. My partner’s bitch will guard toys, furniture, and people from the other dogs; and will guard my partner from other people as well as me, too. The chi-JR will snarl and snap at the other dogs, whereas the JR-x will submit to the chi, and guard from the others.
It’s a strange dynamic, and interesting in a morbidly-curious sort of way. I know that none of the household would let the lab away with the behaviour shown by the terriers, as it’s only acceptable because of how small and relatively ‘harmless’ they are.
As my partner’s terrier is only 6, there will need to be some conversations about her behaviour & boundaries had if we’re ever to share a household in the future. How do you tell someone that their dog is poorly trained and can be horrid?!
AmyMay
Situation normal
GSD Woman
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I know crates aren't very popular in much of the UK and EU but I would crate her on sleep over nights until she has been trained to have better manners.
Jenko109
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Crates are actually quite popular in the UK, however I am strongly against using them as a tool to punish bad behaviour.
Clodagh
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But as a preventative for bad behavior they are right up there.
Glitter's fun
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Sorry but I can't be the only one thinking that the behaviour of the dog is not the problem here. If you can't say "hey, when we get jiggy can you shut the dog out" how on earth are you going to negotiate the ups and downs of a long term relationship?
skinnydipper
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Insecure little dogs, though size is not relevant.
fiwen30
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I wasn’t talking about getting jiggy
Clodagh
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But he did ought to respect you enough to not let his dog bully you… jiggy or not!I wasn’t talking about getting jiggy
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CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
So my dogs aren't in the room when I have visitors and I include the dim and distant past when I had a love life.
My old dog was very rumbly around new people in the gaff so it was just safer and easier for everyone to let him be in his own space rather than force unwanted interactions. The middle one was a goof who would just want to be on everyone's knee (yes, at 40kg) and in their face, the young one has some annoying pushy appeasement behaviours including hand nibbling, face licking and climbing on you.
A large GSD grumbling at someone and a small JRT grumbling at someone is the same problem. The dog is unhappy but unlike mine, has no boundaries/safe space.
I love my dogs but that's no reason to expect other people to tolerate their foibles or listen to me constantly telling them to get down or go to bed, etc etc. For those who say 'but they're faaamily', sure, but I wouldn't let kids growl at or climb over people either, I'd let them stay in their room, eat their dinner and play with their toys.
See, you can love your dogs and recognise their faults too, just like people!
One of the many reasons I left a long term partner was because he made fun of me/how I trained my dog.
His brothers dogs strayed, shat all over town, fathered myriad puppies, etc etc etc.
Still have the dog and ended up competing with him all over Europe
The work IT guy came to my house to sort something yesterday. The dogs didn't know he was here. Why upset them by exposing them to a stranger in the house, and scare him by exposing him to large, unhappy (rude) dogs?
My old dog was very rumbly around new people in the gaff so it was just safer and easier for everyone to let him be in his own space rather than force unwanted interactions. The middle one was a goof who would just want to be on everyone's knee (yes, at 40kg) and in their face, the young one has some annoying pushy appeasement behaviours including hand nibbling, face licking and climbing on you.
A large GSD grumbling at someone and a small JRT grumbling at someone is the same problem. The dog is unhappy but unlike mine, has no boundaries/safe space.
I love my dogs but that's no reason to expect other people to tolerate their foibles or listen to me constantly telling them to get down or go to bed, etc etc. For those who say 'but they're faaamily', sure, but I wouldn't let kids growl at or climb over people either, I'd let them stay in their room, eat their dinner and play with their toys.
See, you can love your dogs and recognise their faults too, just like people!
One of the many reasons I left a long term partner was because he made fun of me/how I trained my dog.
His brothers dogs strayed, shat all over town, fathered myriad puppies, etc etc etc.
Still have the dog and ended up competing with him all over Europe
The work IT guy came to my house to sort something yesterday. The dogs didn't know he was here. Why upset them by exposing them to a stranger in the house, and scare him by exposing him to large, unhappy (rude
) dogs?
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CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Also, 6 probably isn't old for a JRT but it's a long time if you want to fix ingrained behaviours that have been tolerated for a long time and there needs to be an element of fairness/slow transition rather than a sudden change to everything a dog has previously known.
fiwen30
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I think the problem is that my partner either doesn’t know how to, or hasn’t previously been inclined to, correct the behaviour. None of the dogs are actually trained at all, outside of their daily routine of being in/out/dinner. They all just…exist, and the guarding behaviours are just a thing that their (little) dogs do as a matter of normalcy.
To begin to correct it whilst the dogs all still live together would require a lot of group human education, which I don’t think the rest of the household would be on board with - see above re. it’s not considered a problem in the little dogs.
Every time his JR is a pig to me I point it out to my partner, and there are vague flurries of activity to try and stop it, but there is nothing consistent or clear for the dog. I think you’re just right CC, the whole behaviour pattern of this JR and the rest of the pack has just been allowed to run on for years, and it’s just become their normal.
I think it has woken my partner up a little to have someone come in and see the dog(s) in a new light. I’m not explicitly critical, I know it’s none of my business how his family raise and (don’t) train their dogs, but there’s certainly a noticeable disparity between their dogs and my own - and my boy isn’t always an angel!
One of the first times I met his JR he asked her to sit for a treat, and I asked what other things could she do? It was a sheepish wake up call for him that she doesn’t know anything else at all! At least not reliably. Which includes basic manners like down/off, drop it, leave it, wait, go to bed, etc. She’s just been allowed to exist and live entirely by the devices of her own tiny doggy brain, so it’s hardly surprising that she can be horrid sometimes. He has said more than once that it’s almost like my 13 year old boy can speak English - I’ve not yet pointed out that it’s because I’ve spent 13 years teaching him!
I posted in here for a bit of a moan really! Of course the behaviour of the JR will become a conversation along the line, and I think he’ll be receptive to it.
To begin to correct it whilst the dogs all still live together would require a lot of group human education, which I don’t think the rest of the household would be on board with - see above re. it’s not considered a problem in the little dogs.
Every time his JR is a pig to me I point it out to my partner, and there are vague flurries of activity to try and stop it, but there is nothing consistent or clear for the dog. I think you’re just right CC, the whole behaviour pattern of this JR and the rest of the pack has just been allowed to run on for years, and it’s just become their normal.
I think it has woken my partner up a little to have someone come in and see the dog(s) in a new light. I’m not explicitly critical, I know it’s none of my business how his family raise and (don’t) train their dogs, but there’s certainly a noticeable disparity between their dogs and my own - and my boy isn’t always an angel!
One of the first times I met his JR he asked her to sit for a treat, and I asked what other things could she do? It was a sheepish wake up call for him that she doesn’t know anything else at all! At least not reliably. Which includes basic manners like down/off, drop it, leave it, wait, go to bed, etc. She’s just been allowed to exist and live entirely by the devices of her own tiny doggy brain, so it’s hardly surprising that she can be horrid sometimes. He has said more than once that it’s almost like my 13 year old boy can speak English - I’ve not yet pointed out that it’s because I’ve spent 13 years teaching him!
I posted in here for a bit of a moan really! Of course the behaviour of the JR will become a conversation along the line, and I think he’ll be receptive to it.
Janique
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One of my neighbour has a young 7 months old Malinois, he always hold him on a very short lead and
i noticed that he had a chocking collar....
His dog goes crazy when he sees Nouille my Basset and last time we met, i was worried that he would let go of his dog.
He seems to only walk his dog round the block and doesn't look he know anything about training...
Next time, i will try to give him the contact to a good trainer.
Poor dog, the owner seems so clueless, why taking a Malinois if you aren't ready to put the work in.....Or any dogs.
i noticed that he had a chocking collar....
His dog goes crazy when he sees Nouille my Basset and last time we met, i was worried that he would let go of his dog.
He seems to only walk his dog round the block and doesn't look he know anything about training...
Next time, i will try to give him the contact to a good trainer.
Poor dog, the owner seems so clueless, why taking a Malinois if you aren't ready to put the work in.....Or any dogs.
Pearlsacarolsinger
Up in the clouds
Don't wait for partner to move the dog, pick her up and put her on the floor yourself. The dog needs to know that you are higher in the pecking order than she is.
MurphysMinder
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I think that is likely to get the OP bitten !
fiwen30
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The JR won’t snap at, or bite people when she’s guarding, but I’d never test it to see! The chi-JR might, though.
The JR truly is a really nice person most of the time, and is super easy to handle by anyone, including me - but when she’s giving me that hard-eyed stare I’m never going to touch her. There’s been times that partner and the JR have been sat peacefully on the sofa, he’ll beckon me over and the JR will get hard-eyed when I approach, and I won’t sit down until he moves her.
Touching a dog that very much wants you specifically to Go Away goes against all instincts of preservation!