Irresponsible Owners

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

That was horrendous. Still got the anxiety shakes. My dog was angelic in comparison. The one who stayed in the car and got fed an entire pack of roast chicken for going through it.

A stressed terrier and a very loud, rude lab.

Hope you and the dog are ok!

I was ready to bawl at someone when we took in Bear last week. He had a massive mastiff bitch on a bloody extendable lead! It’s a converted house, so not spacious. Luckily, the nurse on reception knows us and was probably thinking we weren’t there for a simple exam so she told him to haul it in.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Hope you and the dog are ok!

I was ready to bawl at someone when we took in Bear last week. He had a massive mastiff bitch on a bloody extendable lead! It’s a converted house, so not spacious. Luckily, the nurse on reception knows us and was probably thinking we weren’t there for a simple exam so she told him to haul it in.

Aye she's fine thank you, just having her seasonal/hormonal itch so took her in for the Cytopoint jab, it was me sitting in reception alone loading with stress listening/watching the other dogs, not her

 

[skinnydipper]

Christ me, if your dog is shouting down the vets waiting area, maybe best to leave it in the car until it's your turn??

Nah, that would require a level of intelligence few seem to possess.

 

[cauda equina]

I wonder why the reception staff don't take charge when dogs are being noisy/disruptive/whatever and ask or tell the clients to wait somewhere else - they must realise that other patients (and their owners) are getting stressed

 

[TheresaW]

One of ours isn’t particularly other dog friendly. I always leave him in the car until it’s his turn.

 

[Clodagh]

I wonder why the reception staff don't take charge when dogs are being noisy/disruptive/whatever and ask or tell the clients to wait somewhere else - they must realise that other patients (and their owners) are getting stressed

I don’t know. I asked a woman to put her elderly border terrier on the lead the other day as it wandered about peeing in the cat area. I was very unpopular with her and got no support from reception, who tbf was a young girl. The cat people appreciated it but apparently I was heartless as the dog was blind and senile. I suggested it might feel safer on a lead as it would know where its owner was but she just huffed and walked out. (She was leaving anyway!).
I’d been fending it away from Scout with my feet as he gets growly when nervous.

 

[skinnydipper]

don’t know. I asked a woman to put her elderly border terrier on the lead the other day

It shouldn't be up to the other clients to say anything. The staff at the vets should step up and keep people right.

I had the big girl at the local vets, came out of the consulting room and a terrier between us and the exit door tried to attack her. She wasn't happy about that but I managed to haul her back to the consulting room and asked if we could go out of the side door. I took her to the car and came back in to pay. The owners of the terrier said nothing, no apology, nothing. I glowered at them. As I was paying the vet came out to call them in and the female owner laughed and said 'Oh, that was us causing trouble'. Stupid or what?

 

[Tiddlypom]

It’s pretty much got to the stage at the vets that I now keep the dog or cat in the car until we’re called in.

ETA That doesn't help coming back out after the consultation, though.

 

[Clodagh]

It shouldn't be up to the other clients to say anything. The staff at the vets should step up and keep people right.

I had the big girl at the local vets, came out of the consulting room and a terrier between us and the exit door tried to attack her. She wasn't happy about that but I managed to haul her back to the consulting room and asked if we could go out of the side door. I took her to the car and came back in to pay. The owners of the terrier said nothing, no apology, nothing. I glowered at them. As I was paying the vet came out to call them in and the female owner laughed and said 'Oh, that was us causing trouble'. Stupid or what?

I bet she was proud to have such a well ‘ard dog.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Last night also included a lovely couple ROARING down their mobile (the phone reception is awful) at a vet in the middle of doing a C Section on their dog.
WHAT?
CAN'T HEAR YOU
THE LINE IS BAD

The receptioninst then had to explain that the vet was in the middle of the operation, there were six puppies, the female was at risk of bleeding out, could they please go home and someone would call them.

None of this I actually needed to know. I did a lot of side eyeing and jumped out of my seat several times as all the humans/dogs last night were so bloody loud.
And I'm obviously not unused to barking....

 

[Kunoichi73]

Went to visit a friend recently. They rescued a 4-5 week old puppy in January. It's blatantly an XLB. It's currently lovely, friendly and wriggly. They're giving all the standard excuses about it being the owners not the dog, how the law is ridiculous, isn't it terrible about it needing to be spayed, on a lead, muzzled etc. At the moment, I don't mind visiting, but I'm not sure I'd want to go once it gets bigger. They're both ridiculously 'save every animal' people. Apparently, they were part of the whole taking XLBs to Scotland thing. They rescue birds, have loads in cages, would never consider putting anything down. I think the whole set up is cruel and irresponsible. I'm actually really angry about it.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

Went to visit a friend recently. They rescued a 4-5 week old puppy in January. It's blatantly an XLB. It's currently lovely, friendly and wriggly. They're giving all the standard excuses about it being the owners not the dog, how the law is ridiculous, isn't it terrible about it needing to be spayed, on a lead, muzzled etc. At the moment, I don't mind visiting, but I'm not sure I'd want to go once it gets bigger. They're both ridiculously 'save every animal' people. Apparently, they were part of the whole taking XLBs to Scotland thing. They rescue birds, have loads in cages, would never consider putting anything down. I think the whole set up is cruel and irresponsible. I'm actually really angry about it.

Keeping birds in cages?

 

[Kunoichi73]

Keeping birds in cages?

They're rescues. I was shocked when I visited with how many crows they had in the cages. I don't have quite as much of a problem with the rescue parrots but the crows could be released.

 

[skinnydipper]

I bet she was proud to have such a well ‘ard dog.

When someone thinks it's clever or funny you know that they haven't got a clue.

 

[scats]

Another issue at the farm. This time it’s an unmuzzled XL bully being driven to our private farm, car parked up pretty hidden away and dog walked on our fields late evening unmuzzled and off lead. They are walking on the field adjoining the public footpath so anyone could appear at any moment right next to them.

2 hours of internet sleuthing last night and my FBI-esque abilities and I have not only got the names of the owners and where the live, but posts on their social media admitting to it being an XL bully and them not ‘needing to muzzle their XL bully on private fields’. Pity they have no permission to walk those private fields and the field is not secure , nor away from the public. People really should be very, very careful about what they say online.

Needless to say it has been reported with the evidence. I’m sure it’s a lovely dog but why should some XL bully owners flout the rules when others are sticking to them.
They are driving past a ‘private farm, no entry’ sign (fast aswell!) every evening and walking it in a field next door to where my horses graze and where the general public can walk at any time. Also trampling all over a field that our farmer rents for crops.

I have to say though, that’s been my most impressive detective work in a while! I am wasted in my job

 

[cauda equina]

Great job scats!
I hope the authorities take action, please keep us updated

Also that's a strange interpretation of 'private' - if it's your own private property you can use it as you wish, but if you're using someone else's 'private' field does it then become public?

 

[Smitty]

Well done Scats, worrying though that people are prepared to play Russian roulette with these animals on other people's property. Hope they get done for trespass as well as having a dog off lead and unmuzzled in public ( I think it should be siezed and PTS according to the new law shouldn't it?) and have to reimburse for the damaged crops .... Oh wait, I'm fanticising again. Hope something comes of your sleuthing.

 

[splashgirl45]

Well done Scats, let’s hope this stops him ,

 

[ester]

https://www.facebook.com/thewaterfowlsanctuary/posts/821820886656241

 

[scats]

I genuinely hope the police give a stark warning to the owners of the XL bully that they are playing a very dangerous game and dicing with this dogs life. I don’t want it destroyed, I actually like XL bullies and I do feel for people with them now the laws are in place, but the fact is that it is now law for them to be muzzled and on lead. People who think they are above the law or cleverer than it really get my back up. It’s only a matter of time before they were reported by someone.

I assume it is registered, as they took the time to have it neutered (FB post) and whether they think that walking on private property makes it ok, but they are right alongside a public footpath (which is clearly signed) so arguably the dog is still in a public area. They do also know the farm itself is private, as they pass a whopping great sign saying it, but clearly have no morals from that point of view.

The police around here are quite lenient with dogs. It took a good while to get the troublesome rottie muzzled and took several dogs being attacked and a person getting bitten before anything was done.

I will keep you updated and I hope for the sake of the bully that the owner realises what a dangerous position they are putting this dog in with regards his life.

 

[cauda equina]

Arguably they are also putting other people in a dangerous position with regards to their lives - there have been so many stories of XLBs being lovely until suddenly they're not, sometimes with devastating consequences

 

[splashgirl45]

https://www.facebook.com/thewaterfowlsanctuary/posts/821820886656241

Once again an owner who doesn’t seem to care what their dogs get up to. What on earth is the matter with these people ??

 

[Clodagh]

I was loading up 4 this morning to drive out to a different walk. They were up at the gate waiting for me. Man from down the road (nice guy with a cute dog) came up the road and let his little dog pull the extendable lead and leap up and down yapping at the gate at my lot. He was filming it. Mine weren’t reacting at all, I think it will be a funny ‘look at my little dog taking on this lot’ video.
Just to be aggravating I walked past mine, told them to stay and opened the gate. He reeled his in so quick the poor thing probably got whiplash.

 

[skinnydipper]

Man from down the road (nice guy with a cute dog) came up the road and let his little dog pull the extendable lead and leap up and down yapping at the gate at my lot. He was filming it.

I disagree, he is a jerk. Nice guys don't do that and there is nothing cute about a dog kicking off at other dogs.

Not only is it not very nice for your dogs but one of these days he/she will do it to the wrong dog and it will be goodbye cutie-pie.

 

[Clodagh]

I disagree, he is a jerk. Nice guys don't do that and there is nothing cute about a dog kicking off at other dogs.

Not only is it not very nice for your dogs but one of these days he/she will do it to the wrong dog and it will be goodbye cutie-pie.

Harsh! But probably true. The silly thing is I often meet the dog when his mother in law is walking it and it’s absolutely fine, on leash and mine don’t interact but it just stands there quietly while we talk.

 

[oldandgold]

Over the last few weeks we have had the not nice job of clearing Mum's house, so gates to driveway open whilst we load the car. Last week I was about to walk out the gates when a guy walking down with an xl bully - to be fair it was on a lead and muzzled - let it come onto the drive where it stood staring at me. I froze as didn't know what to say or do as I didn't want to antagonise either. He eventually walked off smirking.

And today walking out of the field, making 6 month old pup sit and wait whilst someone comes through the gate with their dog - possibly boxer cross, not sure - it's barking, I'm telling pup in a loud voice to sit and leave (which he did), only for the pillock to walk his dog to mine and tells me that "she's fine". The air was more than blue. Just so bloody annoyed that people do not use the odd brain cells that they have.

As an aside this last week have seen at least 6 staffies all wearing muzzles - is this because of the XL's and people are being cautious or something else going on.

 

[Smitty]

I'd rather see a staffie in a muzzle than without one. There have been a few attacks by these dogs that haven't ended well. Maybe they are being cautious or perhaphs their dog is iffy. They scare the life out of me

 

[ArklePig]

I nearly killed a Japanese Akita (I think)today because his idiot owner decided to walk him off lead next to a multi lane A road and the dog took a dander out in front of my car. What a flipping idiot. Luckily I had seen him on the footpath and slowed down just in case or I easily could have killed the dog/caused an accident. I've seen a concerning number of dogs being walked off lead near roads recently and I just don't think I'd ever be brave enough even with the most obedient dog. Not if I liked the dog anyway.

 

[GSD Woman]

Scats,

Your problem reminds me that it isn't only Americans who think they're entitled.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

I nearly killed a Japanese Akita (I think)today because his idiot owner decided to walk him off lead next to a multi lane A road and the dog took a dander out in front of my car. What a flipping idiot. Luckily I had seen him on the footpath and slowed down just in case or I easily could have killed the dog/caused an accident. I've seen a concerning number of dogs being walked off lead near roads recently and I just don't think I'd ever be brave enough even with the most obedient dog. Not if I liked the dog anyway.

i was waiting at the lights on the way home at the weekend, very busy 4 way and a guy had an off lead akita, bounced across the road in front of him. i just can't imagine letting my lot off anywhere near a road.