Irresponsible Owners

[SaddlePsych'D]

I was the shouty owner today. ? In fairness the westie had come racing up behind us, having just passed each other on lead a few moments before with seemingly no issue. It was properly barking and growling, repeatedly rushing in trying to get to Ivy who was completely oblivious as usual! I'm never quite sure if I'm doing the right thing in these situations but there was a lot of blocking and shouting "oi!" to fend it off. At least the owner did promptly get it back on lead and seemed to genuinely apologise.

 

[skinnydipper]

Our walk yesterday was spoilt again by hoodie man and his 2 dogs. He makes no attempt to call them and lets them run at other dogs barking aggressively. It's not nice.

 

[Clodagh]

This is just a general moan. We went to the Royal Cornwall show yesterday. It was heaving. It seemed compulsory to have at least two dogs, maybe up to five. Dachshunds very popular, why anyone would think something 6” high would want to walk in a crowd.
And the number of cocker spaniels having meltdowns, and the number of muzzled dogs. And chronically lame ones.
Our dogs stayed at home btw. They’d have hated every minute.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

This is just a general moan. We went to the Royal Cornwall show yesterday. It was heaving. It seemed compulsory to have at least two dogs, maybe up to five. Dachshunds very popular, why anyone would think something 6” high would want to walk in a crowd.
And the number of cocker spaniels having meltdowns, and the number of muzzled dogs. And chronically lame ones.
Our dogs stayed at home btw. They’d have hated every minute.

We went to Bramham yesterday with our dogs, who enjoyed it! Thursday is a quiet day there, so we used it to introduce them to more people than they are used to. We didn't actually see much of the dressage ourselves, because we were concentrating on the dogs but they sat quietly at the side of the dressage rings, where they got to talk to a little girl, who isn't confident with dogs but donated some ice-cream to them, and then we took them to the food area where they thoroughly enjoyed some chips. After a short walk between the shops, we went home. It was a very useful day but as busy as they can cope with currently. We shall continue their education at local agricultural shows, hopefully.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

I’ve had multiple notifications from my neighbourhood app about dogs being attacked in the park we were going to take the pups to for their first swim. I’m looking elsewhere therefore.

 

[Clodagh]

We went to Bramham yesterday with our dogs, who enjoyed it! Thursday is a quiet day there, so we used it to introduce them to more people than they are used to. We didn't actually see much of the dressage ourselves, because we were concentrating on the dogs but they sat quietly at the side of the dressage rings, where they got to talk to a little girl, who isn't confident with dogs but donated some ice-cream to them, and then we took them to the food area where they thoroughly enjoyed some chips. After a short walk between the shops, we went home. It was a very useful day but as busy as they can cope with currently. We shall continue their education at local agricultural shows, hopefully.

I did actually think of you while we were there, which shows I’m struggling with my real v forum life balance. ?

 

[Pearlsasinger]

I did actually think of you while we were there, which shows I’m struggling with my real v forum life balance. ?

We would have taken the Rottweilers, who grew up going to shows from 12 weeks old, to Cheshire Show this year but we won't be taking the Labs, they need much more gentle exposure to gradually increasing numbers of people, before we do that, if we ever do. The Rotts loved going to shows because everyone wanted to talk to them but Labs are 2 a penny, as witnessed at Bramham, this year, so don't attract anywhere near as many admirers. We were extremely pleased by their behaviour at Bramham, though, as, of course, they hardly went anywhere during the last 2 years - they are good at going out for breakfast/lunch, though!

 

[Clodagh]

Mine have all been to point to points this year but it bores them to tears so I have given up. Scout quite enjoys himself, he’s young enough to embrace stuff.
the olds all get hysterical as they think we are going shooting and then are very disappointed when we arrive ?

 

[Pearlsasinger]

Mine have all been to point to points this year but it bores them to tears so I have given up. Scout quite enjoys himself, he’s young enough to embrace stuff.
the olds all get hysterical as they think we are going shooting and then are very disappointed when we arrive ?

Yes, I'm not sure that ours would enjoy p-t-p, there wouldn't be enough happening. And what about food? They do love going anywhere in the car, though. Next experience is a trip to the coast. Ours went last year but it will be new to the 3rd one.

 

[CorvusCorax]

I used to take mine to P2P, there's usually a few food vans or I took sandwiches.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

Well yes, I expect there will be. It might be something to bear in mind for the winter, as whenever I have been p-t-p, there certainly hasn't been a crowd.

 

[Boulty]

Was at Bramham today. Counted 3 loose dogs (luckily only 1 was when a horse was going past), 1 on lead dog nearly ran over by loose horse as owners not paying attention (they had soooo much time to clock it was coming their way & get the dog on a shorter lead) & countless dogs barking (normally small packs them) at every horse / dog that went past.

I took Hen on Friday & he was mostly good (a bit excited & he also doesn't quite get that stalls are "inside" & not for peeing in so we only went into ones where I had a definite want to buy something & he was kept away from walls & merchandise!) but would not have dreamt of taking him today as although he's generally good with horses he's not worked out they can go fast / gallop yet. Don't want him to find out until we're totally on top of his car chasing as worried he'll become one of the barky annoyances. Going to have to take him tomorrow when ideally I wouldn't due to busyness as have as nobody to look after him (but at least I'll have someone else with me so we can take turns & one of us can take him to explore the empty XC course if he gets a bit overwhelmed or bored.) He's pretty good at tucking away under a bench tbf, just tends to get bored & need to go for a wander every few hours

 

[Boulty]

To be fair to the hooligan he was a very good boy today. Chewed on a bully stick for a while then had a nap. Had a minor panic attack when there was a sudden burst of applause when he was fast asleep under a bench but cuddles made it better (& then took him away from the ring before the prize giving so he didn't end up in the middle of loads of noise) He definitely enjoyed doing some dog & people watching but also enjoyed having a mooch around some of the XC course & watching a bit of arena eventing where it was a lot quieter in terms of crowds. Also had a go at some agility in a rather overenthusiastic, bull in a China shop way.

 

[blackcob]

A man and a woman have been jailed after a 10-year-old boy was mauled to death by a dog near where he lived.
Jack Lis died following the attack at a house in Caerphilly on 8 November 2021.
Brandon Hayden, 19, from Penyrheol, Caerphilly, was jailed for four-and-a-half years at Cardiff Crown Court after admitting owning or being in charge of a dangerously out of control dog.
Amy Salter, 29, of Trethomas, Caerphilly, was jailed for three years for the same offence.
The court was shown CCTV of Brandon Hayden and Amy Salter with their dog, Beast in Caerphilly.

Sorry, I couldn't find the previous thread where this dog was discussed, but this is the first time I've seen this CCTV footage in full and thought it worth sharing. The person who'd shared it on FB described it as 'the gradual process of weaponising a dog' which is just such an awful concept.

 

[AmyMay]

I think the dog was already ‘weaponised’. I’ve struggled with the fact that it had bitten two people (while in this man’s care, in the days leading up to this poor boys death. Were the incidents reported? And if so, why did he still have ‘Beast’?

Wow, it was totally fixated on that little girl.

 

[Alwaysmoretoknow]

What total scum. They absolutely deserved the prison sentence they got - wish it had been longer. That poor dog was turned into something as dangerous as an AK-47 by their horrific treatment of it.

 

[AmyMay]

That poor dog was turned into something as dangerous as an AK-47 by their horrific treatment of it.

In no way defending them, or the behaviour shown, but they’d only had him a very short time. He arrived like that.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

I always tell people that a dog aggressive animal does not automatically equate to one which will attack a child (some hysteria on the neighbourhood app after a dog on dog attack this week) but omg, that dog definitely wants that little girl. ?The whole thing is tragic.

 

[CrunchieBoi]

In no way defending them, or the behaviour shown, but they’d only had him a very short time. He arrived like that.

Is it not the new owners that can be seen kicking and punching the lights out of it on the CCTV then? I'm a bit confused.

 

[AmyMay]

Is it not the new owners that can be seen kicking and punching the lights out of it on the CCTV then? I'm a bit confused.

Yes it is.

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.ne..._nOfPRfhiwsid1gogG6QgL2tz7EHq3WNQ&oe=62A02161

I'm late to the party, sorry! What was this video of?

ETA: That was a terrible turn of phrase for a thread like this, sorry!

 

[SAujla]

Walking my dog down the canal today and saw a mother with her teenage son and their dog. The dog was looking into the water and the son pushed her into the canal, it was squealing and had to be helped out whilst the son was laughing. As we walked past I said I don't think she liked that and got told she was fine and loved it

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

This is just a general moan. We went to the Royal Cornwall show yesterday. It was heaving. It seemed compulsory to have at least two dogs, maybe up to five. Dachshunds very popular, why anyone would think something 6” high would want to walk in a crowd.
And the number of cocker spaniels having meltdowns, and the number of muzzled dogs. And chronically lame ones.
Our dogs stayed at home btw. They’d have hated every minute.

Oh my god, the South Of England show was horrendous... one lady had two dog reactive staffies she could barely hold, unmuzzled. I saw them try to lunge and snap at dogs at least three times. People with 4 dogs, dogs ringside on for the showjumping barking and jumping at the end of their lead, people with stupid extendable leads getting wrapped around legs, people with Pom's/Chow Chows/Brachy dogs just sitting in the blazing sunshine for hours rather than in the shade. One woman who was spraying a water spray in the face of her Shit Zhu every time it barked at something/someone (about every 2 mins), someone with 4 small dogs crammed in a push chair, lame dogs, elderly dogs and lots of foot squashable size dogs... I genuinely despair.

 

[BallyRoanBaubles]

Walking my dog down the canal today and saw a mother with her teenage son and their dog. The dog was looking into the water and the son pushed her into the canal, it was squealing and had to be helped out whilst the son was laughing. As we walked past I said I don't think she liked that and got told she was fine and loved it

Wow I have no words for this!

 

[skinnydipper]

I'm late to the party, sorry! What was this video of?

ETA: That was a terrible turn of phrase for a thread like this, sorry!

It was a still taken from a video of a baby's 'caregiver' throwing a cheese slice onto baby's head for a husky to take it and eat it.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Sorry, I couldn't find the previous thread where this dog was discussed, but this is the first time I've seen this CCTV footage in full and thought it worth sharing. The person who'd shared it on FB described it as 'the gradual process of weaponising a dog' which is just such an awful concept.

It's chilling to watch.

 

[CorvusCorax]

This is a trifling matter and will probably sound like breedism but there you go, I'm doing it anyway.

Doing a bit of work with my bitch off to the side of soccer training, a couple of dogs walk past, she clocks them and I distract her, later, a couple walk past with a collie (which is allowed to run offlead in the athletics stadium, where there is a dog control order, sigh) again, I manage to engage her.
They walk past a while later, by which time bitch's belly is a bit fuller, so they let their dog come right to the end of the line, on the other side of a fence and just...stare her out. And so her bucket is full, she boils over and growls and barks at it. And they laugh and then keep walking, but just for good measure let it come through the gate a bit just to let it eyeball her some more.
I was so cross and I just shouted 'WHY DID YOU JUST LET THAT HAPPEN??'. Then I had to do a stupid dance to shake it out and not let my dog think I was cross at her, so all the footballers will now think I am a mad cow, if they didn't already lol.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Walking my dog down the canal today and saw a mother with her teenage son and their dog. The dog was looking into the water and the son pushed her into the canal, it was squealing and had to be helped out whilst the son was laughing. As we walked past I said I don't think she liked that and got told she was fine and loved it

Total idiot. Canals are filthy, I would not want mine in water that doesn’t flow and he’s probably made her even more scared.

Ours went for their first swim on Sunday, at a shallow bit of river just to get them used to water. Mitch was a flat out no, so we didn’t push it. We’ll keep asking, but I’m not going to force it.

 

[Chuffy99]

I was so hoping you were going to accidentally have pushed laughing boy into the canal

 

[Pearlsasinger]

Total idiot. Canals are filthy, I would not want mine in water that doesn’t flow and he’s probably made her even more scared.

Ours went for their first swim on Sunday, at a shallow bit of river just to get them used to water. Mitch was a flat out no, so we didn’t push it. We’ll keep asking, but I’m not going to force it.

We walk along a canal path to get to the river where our dogs can swim. I am always very careful to keep Yellow Lab away from the edge of the path as she is so very interested in the canal water. I would hate her to jump into the filthy water, which has all sorts of rubbish dumped in it and which we would struggle to get her out of, even though they always wear harnesses to go swimming..