fiwen30
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‘Only playing’ with the sheep! I despair.
Irresponsible Owners
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YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
That happens more often than you'd think! One evening the horses were going nuts, so I went out to check and there was a woman in the field next to ours, calling a poo Cross which was in with our sheep. No recall at all and when I got a bit cross, she did apologise, but told me the dog liked sheep. She looked a bit affronted when I told her the sheep didn't like dogs!
Marnie
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I am just so cautious and just find it ridiculous that others aren't the same! Bunny's recall is ok, but only ok. I won't let her off anywhere near livestock fields that she could potentially get into under fences or gates. I don't really like extendable leads, but when I am walking by myself they mean that she can mooch around doing what she wants and I can still get her back. She does go into our cow fields and the cow sheds looking for rats but after being chased once or twice, doesn't bother them - only to lick their noses or hunt for calf poo 
I am still cautious though and wouldn't let her do the same anywhere else.
I am still cautious though and wouldn't let her do the same anywhere else.
fiwen30
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Christ on a bike! I’m mortified enough if my dog stops beside someone’s front garden and toilets on the pavement, I’d absolutely die if he ever went charging off over someone else’s property.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
When I was on holiday earlier this year and walked around the grounds of a big hotel beside a popular tourist feature, there was a woman letting an adult and puppy retriever run in a field with horses. No recall. One also kept running up to my dog. I couldn't then get my dog back in the van because she was parked beside me and when she finally got one dog in the car, the other one jumped out and vice versa and kept circling my van, which had my other two other dogs in it going bananas. Never thought to, you know, put a lead on either of them.
Because we were parked beside each other and she was causing quite a kerfuffle I told several passers by that she and her dogs had nothing to do with me.
Because we were parked beside each other and she was causing quite a kerfuffle I told several passers by that she and her dogs had nothing to do with me.
SilverLinings
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It's bad enough that some dog owners don't appear to care a jot about the sheep/horses/etc that they allow their dogs to harass, but you'd think that the owners would care that they are risking their dog being shot, kicked or trampled to death. But, I suppose like the people who allow their dogs to run loose on roads, they don't actually care about the wellbeing of their dogs either.
Poor dogs, poor chased livestock and poor farmers, all because of the sense of entitlement and lack of responsibility held by a proportion of the population.
Poor dogs, poor chased livestock and poor farmers, all because of the sense of entitlement and lack of responsibility held by a proportion of the population.
Smitty
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Very un PC but are they just 'thick'?
Crugeran Celt
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We don't have paths through our land but it doesn't stop people walking through anyway and we even have some people who were opening the gates and just letting their dogs in to have a run about and a poo as then the owner didn't have to pick it up! All gates locked now but still some will climb over and seem somewhat surprised that we ask them not to. They don't understand that the horses can and probably will chase their dogs.
Morwenna
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Another idiot in my local park. We were in a quiet corner practising sit stays and loose lead walking and there was only one other dog in there at the time pootling round the other end. Suddenly notice a man making a beeline towards us with a goldendoodle. His dog was about the same age as my pup and he wanted to introduce them as his dog ‘loves making friends’. I’ve been working on getting her to disengage so let her say hello briefly on lead then called her and she came straight back to me and we turned away. At that point he told his dog to say hello properly and let it off the lead so it came bowling up to us and knocked mine over. He did eventually get the circling barrel of fluff back on the lead and we just walked off. Why do people think this is ok? This is why I prefer walking her at 6am but I am trying not to fix walk times too much for her. I’ll definitely stick to unsocial hours in future.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Not irresponsible, just annoying and nowhere else to vent ?
I say 'I'll be there from 1ish' (actually a bit earlier) someone arrives at 2.20pm, takes their dogs for a walk, in the interim everyone else who has been there since 1pm gets their bits done and goes home, said person finally starts training at close to 3pm and gets a bit sniffy when I say I'm starving and will be leaving at 4pm.
We all pay the same fee, I give all of my time voluntarily and have my own dog to train.
Said person has a 'but' for everything/generally ignores any advice anyway...
I say 'I'll be there from 1ish' (actually a bit earlier) someone arrives at 2.20pm, takes their dogs for a walk, in the interim everyone else who has been there since 1pm gets their bits done and goes home, said person finally starts training at close to 3pm and gets a bit sniffy when I say I'm starving and will be leaving at 4pm.
We all pay the same fee, I give all of my time voluntarily and have my own dog to train.
Said person has a 'but' for everything/generally ignores any advice anyway...
blackcob
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Sympathy as I've had new venue/new starter woes last couple of weeks. Letting your dog run up to the dogs waiting on the sideline is Not Cool; letting it happen three times, including nicking a water bowl and sending the dog you were warned was a bit spicy into an apoplectic shitfit as a result? Seriously Not Cool.
SaddlePsych'D
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Saw a post on FB group about someone's dog getting kicked by another dog owner. I think there are extremely limited circumstances I would think it okay to kick a dog (like to prevent/stop an actual attack and even then I'm not sure that would be effective), but the way the post was worded made me reeeeally want to know what the other version of events was. I still don't think kicking the dog was warranted (cannot emphasise that enough) but I do wonder if the flipside of the 'my dog was just playing and hadn't had a chance to come back after I called it' could be 'this dog wouldn't stop harassing mine, I'd been shouting at the owner to recall for ages and even when they did it came pelting all the way back after mine ran back to me'. Reason 235353436 to not let your dog wander up to unknown people/dogs/children/animals.
Clodagh
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Tbh I’d boot another dog with relatively little provocation. Not wearing steel toe caps and not deliberately to hurt but tbh whatever it takes for mine to be and feel safe.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Me too. If my dog is being hassled in what I deem to be an unacceptable way (or obviously aggressively), I have no hesitation.
Sorry if that offends SD. But my dog is small and I 100% advocate for her and her alone.
SAujla
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I regret not booting a dog that went for Clover, I wish I had done but had to move her away to check she wasn't hurt.
SaddlePsych'D
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I think if you perceive a threat to you and/or your dog you have every right to fend this off. There's been one time I thought about it as the dog was so damn persistent and had been staring us down from a distance. If it hadn't had it's lead still attached to it I might not have had another choice. It's partly why if anyone gets cross about me shouting at their dog I have: 'me shouting at your dog is the least of your worries if you can't keep it under control' ready to come back.
The comments on the FB post were unanimously 'oh poor you'. I daren't stick my head above this particular parapet!
ETA - I thought the kicking in the FB sounded unwarranted from the description but of course this was written from one side and I expect I might have thought differently if I did have the other version of the story.
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MurphysMinder
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My agility training is at a riding school/livery yard . The owners have a new dog which last week got into the indoor arena and was attacking all our dogs . I freely admit I had my leg forward to keep it away from my little guy , and if that hadn’t worked it would have felt my toe !
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
I would use my feet/crutch/whatever I had to hand, plenty of big fallen branches lying round. I’ll protect my lot and worry about the consequences later.
Sorry, very upsetting: I was horrified last week to hear (from my OH) about a dog attacking a smaller one, breaking it’s spine and opening up the stomach, it died at the vets. It’s very upsetting to think that it only takes seconds for something to happen and you lose your pet. You can make as much noise as you like and do the best you can, it won’t necessarily help.
Sorry, very upsetting: I was horrified last week to hear (from my OH) about a dog attacking a smaller one, breaking it’s spine and opening up the stomach, it died at the vets. It’s very upsetting to think that it only takes seconds for something to happen and you lose your pet. You can make as much noise as you like and do the best you can, it won’t necessarily help.
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Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
I posted back in April about a woman whipping up a storm of outrage about a nasty man on the canal tow path who had kicked her dogs. She posted a photo of him.
Luckily she kicked up this storm on the local whatsapp group, of which the 'dog kicker', my OH, is an active and respected member. He put his side of the story just as the lady of the manor (yes, really) was demanding that he be reported to the police.
Our on lead dog was being harassed by this woman's two off lead dogs, while she very slowly made her way the 200 yards back along the tow path calling them ineffectively back. Yes, he did fend them off with his foot - what else was he supposed to do? Once the villagers realised that this horrid dog kicker was in fact the very kind and helpful Mr TP they shut up and slunk off, deserting the owner of the two aggressive dogs.
Defo two sides. This tale was growing bigger by the minute before OH put his side of it in.
Luckily she kicked up this storm on the local whatsapp group, of which the 'dog kicker', my OH, is an active and respected member. He put his side of the story just as the lady of the manor (yes, really) was demanding that he be reported to the police.
Our on lead dog was being harassed by this woman's two off lead dogs, while she very slowly made her way the 200 yards back along the tow path calling them ineffectively back. Yes, he did fend them off with his foot - what else was he supposed to do? Once the villagers realised that this horrid dog kicker was in fact the very kind and helpful Mr TP they shut up and slunk off, deserting the owner of the two aggressive dogs.
Defo two sides. This tale was growing bigger by the minute before OH put his side of it in.
ArklePig
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SaddlePsych'D
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JFC just...why?!
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
OMG!!! That is horrific , they must be mad, hope we don’t read bad news about this baby
skinnydipper
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Aside from the obvious - brainless owners putting precious child at risk, that dog has hard eyes/hard stare.
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
Unbelievable ? I don’t care how soppy it is and how well you know your dog, that’s just thick. The parent has no chance of getting the baby away if it accidentally pokes the dog and the dog reacts badly.
‘Responsible’ dog owner?! Sad joke.
Smitty
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Wow. Just wow. That's a disaster in the offing ...
On the Hoof
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Well I had to use my foot to try and stop a large aggressive dog from keeping coming into my dog who i was struggling to control as she wanted to fly at the other dog, owner not there until last minute, calls his dog (great) but then shouts back at me , dont ever f****** kick my dog again...... I didnt bother to say anything, I assumed he was embarrased at his dogs behaviour and shouted this to try and take back the moral high ground.
Moobli
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I have heard all sorts of spurious reasons for dogs being off lead in an area signed with “Livestock. Dogs on Leads”. My dogs are stock broken but I’d never have them off lead around anyone else’s livestock. It’s a matter of courtesy as well as understanding all dogs, even well trained, can act unpredictably and my dogs are too precious to risk.
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Edited original reply as the conversation had moved on.
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Smitty
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I'm with you every inch of the way. I do wonder if people are just plain embarrassed.
And DON'T kick people's dogs, however horrid they are ?. (Dogs or humans)
SilverLinings
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The fact they are asking other 'responsible dog owners' to post pictures of their dogs too is a serious worry, I don't understand how they think what they've done with their dog is responsible- it is the complete opposite
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Again just putting this here as no other relevant thread.
Bimbling along the lane, literally just outside my gate, old boy on flexi but no more than a metre/normal lead length, head torch and mobile phone torch on me but in top pocket (for once ?)
Hear a noise, look around, see a light and there is a fella almost on top of me. I call out 'watch yourself there's a dog' and he keeps going and almost falls over him, makes a weird noise and carries on running.
Phone in hand, no warning, nothing, just heavy breathing.
As well as being shocked, I would also like to say that anyone who thinks a dog trained in bitework who completed in multiple working trials over many years is a dangerous animal, always on a hair trigger looking to bite someone...think again, he didn't even seem to notice ??
Bimbling along the lane, literally just outside my gate, old boy on flexi but no more than a metre/normal lead length, head torch and mobile phone torch on me but in top pocket (for once ?)
Hear a noise, look around, see a light and there is a fella almost on top of me. I call out 'watch yourself there's a dog' and he keeps going and almost falls over him, makes a weird noise and carries on running.
Phone in hand, no warning, nothing, just heavy breathing.
As well as being shocked, I would also like to say that anyone who thinks a dog trained in bitework who completed in multiple working trials over many years is a dangerous animal, always on a hair trigger looking to bite someone...think again, he didn't even seem to notice ??