Smitty
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Sorry Blackcob, I wiped your name out unintentionally trying to pare your post down to the bit I needed ...
Irresponsible Owners
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blackcob
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I'll live ?
Had another classic today: "He's a bit lame but he's not in any pain."
Had another classic today: "He's a bit lame but he's not in any pain."
Smitty
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I'll live ?
Had another classic today: "He's a bit lame but he's not in any pain."[/QUOTE
Oh well, that's good then ?. It does seem a lot of dogs aren't...
My chap had X rays and physio ... No amount of dogs apparently had similar but never taken to vet as nothing wrong with them and they were not in any pain, they had always done it and anyway all terriers hop.
CorvusCorax
Deary me...
My young female has never had a ball lashed, just a short distance, into her gob or dropped at my feet or she can get it from me and play with it, with me.
She is naturally high prey and a natural running dog, I have no need to hype her up any further or make the energy she brings from nature, any higher.
Also you end up making all the fun over in the distance, away from you.
I've seen too many stupid, unnecessary injuries and too many dogs sent boogaloo by ball flinging (I inadvertently made her father much loopier than he needed to be because I was so delighted to have a dog with DRIVE!)
Plus, throwing style matters.
Running rabbit, not flying bird.
She is naturally high prey and a natural running dog, I have no need to hype her up any further or make the energy she brings from nature, any higher.
Also you end up making all the fun over in the distance, away from you.
I've seen too many stupid, unnecessary injuries and too many dogs sent boogaloo by ball flinging (I inadvertently made her father much loopier than he needed to be because I was so delighted to have a dog with DRIVE!)
Plus, throwing style matters.
Running rabbit, not flying bird.
GSD Woman
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Had another classic today: "He's a bit lame but he's not in any pain."[/QUOT
Takes me back to a deceased club member with an overweight, lame sheltie. Supposedly her vet said the dog wasn't in pain. Sure. She had never been excused from the obedience ring even though she should have been. finally a judge excused her and the woman grumbled that she hadn't been excused before, blahblahblah.
Takes me back to a deceased club member with an overweight, lame sheltie. Supposedly her vet said the dog wasn't in pain. Sure. She had never been excused from the obedience ring even though she should have been. finally a judge excused her and the woman grumbled that she hadn't been excused before, blahblahblah.
CorvusCorax
Deary me...
Famous family story, my Mum DID excuse a dog from the conformation ring and her handler said 'she's only a bit lame'.
fiwen30
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It made very uncomfortable viewing.
I just watched it back a couple of times there, and there’s a pause where the cocker goes from watching, then curls it’s lip and growls for just a second, then when the pointing finger comes back down again, that’s when it lunges with a snarl. It looks like the girl is sitting on a bed above the dog, and so it has to jump to go for her hand. Probably a good job, or it would’ve made contact.
AShetlandBitMeOnce
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This drives me nuts and I have to correct it all the time about so many types of animal.. 'it's not pain they're just a bit stiff' 'it's not pain, they're just old' 'oh he's been walking like this for a long time, it's just how he walks' no! aaaargh!!
SilverLinings
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I can't stand it, mainly hear it about dogs and horses and nothing you say seems to have any effect on people like that
I wonder whether they'd say the same if they started limping all of a sudden...
AShetlandBitMeOnce
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I can't stand it, mainly hear it about dogs and horses and nothing you say seems to have any effect on people like that
I wonder whether they'd say the same if they started limping all of a sudden...
This is my usual response to the 'it's just a bit of arthritis, they're old' POV... I say that I have arthritis and in the cold, after exercise or just on a bad day it's absolute agony and it's constant pain. So put that on an animal who also doesn't understand and can't tell you how bad it is that day and you then might just understand what you are putting your pet through.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
My lurcher was diagnosEd with arthritis in her hips and after trying pain relief she was no better and didn’t even try and chase a squirrel who crossed the path a couple of yards in front of us. I knew then that quality of life was not good and I made that final decision. I have had arthritis in my hips and suffered for many years so I know what that pain is like but I have had hip replacements which has improved my quality of life but that wasn’t something I would have put her through.. it’s really hard to take that final step and even though it was 6 years ago I still get upset thinking about her and I have her photo as my screen saver so I see her every day..
SilverLinings
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I tried that a couple of times and got 'but he still likes to go for a walk/tries to run around so he can't really be in pain'. Maybe I should have given them a dead leg to see if that drove the point home
GSD Woman
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Good on your mum!
I wonder if the thinking the animal isn't in pain is thinking the animal is faking or else sheer ignorance. Not in all instances of course but some.
Titchy Reindeer
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Unfortunately, I live in rural France where dog wardens don't exist and this kind of behaviour towards dogs is relatively normal and mild. Here most hunting dogs don't leave their kennels for 6 months a year (and I'm not entirely sure what use they are the rest of the year as none of them seem to be trainned for anything). Lots of peoples idea of walking a dog is to get it to run behind a car. Things are changing but slowly, give us another 30 years or so. Strangely, lots of peoples answer when I moan is but I wouldn't be able to have a dog if it couldn't roam (illegal here)/I had to stop it barking/I had to walk it 3 times a day... well don't have a dog then, they're not mandatory!
CinnamonChristmasCookie
Fais pas chier!
Bloody lab x mastiff or something similar went for Mitch today in the woods, growling like it really meant it, owner futilely calling it back and trying to smack it with the lead. Mitch came to call, he isn’t happy with bigger dogs anyway. My lot walked on as told.
I totally get why it was loose, it was probably perfectly fine bopping round til it came across mine, but I do think a solid recall is bog standard. If Bear had seen it, he might have defended Mitch. Luckily, he was off to the side in cover.
Goose was being slow to come back last week, the OH came home properly furious that he’d not come back despite being in view. He has employed hot dogs to great success, there’s much more voluntary recalls, trouble is, the slobber is horrific! I used fallen wet leaves, couldn’t have driven home without a clean up! ???
I totally get why it was loose, it was probably perfectly fine bopping round til it came across mine, but I do think a solid recall is bog standard. If Bear had seen it, he might have defended Mitch. Luckily, he was off to the side in cover.
Goose was being slow to come back last week, the OH came home properly furious that he’d not come back despite being in view. He has employed hot dogs to great success, there’s much more voluntary recalls, trouble is, the slobber is horrific! I used fallen wet leaves, couldn’t have driven home without a clean up! ???
AShetlandBitMeOnce
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if anyone wants to feel completely despondent about the future of dog breeding have a look at silver_star_frenchies on Instagram… ‘big rope’, wire haired, hairless, micro frenchies and they’re all a complete mess. They should be jailed for what they are doing to these dogs..
CrunchieBoi
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Hopefully they are advising new owners of the potential dangers of feeding their new "puppy" after midnight.
GSD Woman
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OMG! That is nauseating. Most of those animals are obviously mixed with other breeds. Several of them look like they have demodex.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
The two spaniels owned by the wife of the new huntsman to our local pack have got out onto the main A49 road again 
. Their owner is unbothered, just so long as her dogs are out having fun.
As I posted previously, neither the police nor the dog warden will act on this unless they catch them straying themselves.
. Their owner is unbothered, just so long as her dogs are out having fun.As I posted previously, neither the police nor the dog warden will act on this unless they catch them straying themselves.
Arzada
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Rather than running up and down the A49 risking their life it's a shame that this kind person didn't phone the police.The two spaniels owned by the wife of the new huntsman to our local pack have got out onto the main A49 road again
As I posted previously, neither the police nor the dog warden will act on this unless they catch them straying themselves.
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cauda equina
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The best thing for those dogs would be to get 'lost'
I expect it's only a matter of time before they don't make it home anyway
I expect it's only a matter of time before they don't make it home anyway
The Xmas Furry
Old Timer
A pro active dog warden charging the owners every time might help? Ours works on charge twice, 3rd time it's off to kennels and potentially seized.
Pearlsacarolsinger
Up in the clouds
In the absence of a dog warden (I know some councils have done away with the role), anyone who can catch those dogs on/near the road should take them to the nearest police station, deny all knowledge of where they might belong and leave the police to sort it out.
CorvusCorax
Deary me...
I've just realised I haven't seen the spangle twat or his wife for months.
I saw the dog with who I presume was a daughter, strangulating itself at the end of a flexi leash a couple of times, but nothing since.
Hopefully nothing bad happened to it, but it wouldn't surprise me if it had been hit by a car, the way it was allowed to run out of control.
I saw the dog with who I presume was a daughter, strangulating itself at the end of a flexi leash a couple of times, but nothing since.
Hopefully nothing bad happened to it, but it wouldn't surprise me if it had been hit by a car, the way it was allowed to run out of control.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
I've spoken to the dog warden.
He can only act if the dogs are still loose, even though the owner is known. Police said the same. As soon as a well meaning member of the public catches the dogs up and restrains them, they can't act. The dogs have identity discs so the finders ring the number on that and the owners eventually come and collect them.
Best thing would be that the finders takes the dogs straight to the dog warden saying they can't contact the owner, then she'd have to pay ££££s to get them released. She might just sort her sh1t out if it costs her.
Btw the dog warden said to prevent the straying from happening again is a police problem, and the police said it is a dog warden problem ?.
The Xmas Furry
Old Timer
I find.... if you catch the repeated lost dog, chuck it in a stable and accidentally mislay the collar, (or pop baler twine round neck if safe) the authorities will collect ?
I only heard this, never done it..... ??
AmyMay
Situation normal
I think this is absolute rubbish.
Part of a DW’s role is to enforce legislation in relation to straying
skinnydipper
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When you have demonstrated that you are unable to recall your dog then don't just walk away - come and get the flipping thing.
Nasicus
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Or the alternative, stand there feebly calling it's name instead of coming and getting aforementioned flipping thing! Gah!
Karran
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One for you.
A flyball friend has a lovely male Merle collie. Decided to breed it to another active sporty collie, all done properly, health tests etc, unfortunately pups didn't happen but word locally got out that it was up for stud. Someone tracked them down on Facebook and asked if they would be interested in mating with their bitch.
Upon questioning, poor bitch turned out to be a Jack Russell and owner had heart set on a collie x JR for no real reason other than they reeallllly liked collies but thought a full one would be too much work. ?
Needless to say they were politely turned down
A flyball friend has a lovely male Merle collie. Decided to breed it to another active sporty collie, all done properly, health tests etc, unfortunately pups didn't happen but word locally got out that it was up for stud. Someone tracked them down on Facebook and asked if they would be interested in mating with their bitch.
Upon questioning, poor bitch turned out to be a Jack Russell and owner had heart set on a collie x JR for no real reason other than they reeallllly liked collies but thought a full one would be too much work. ?
Needless to say they were politely turned down