Is a Highland a Cob?

[Honeypots]

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So how does a Welsh Section D still get called a Welsh cob? Technically they are M&Ms too but there doesn't (as far as I am aware) seem to be any issue with referring to them as cobs...?

Would be interested to know what the distinction would be. Unless it's because Highlands are classed as ponies, I guess. No idea...

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A Welsh D is a Welsh Cob..A Welsh C is a Welsh pony of Cob Type but they are specific breeds.
A cob as most people know them are a type rather than a breed.
M&M is a term to describe NATIVE horses and ponies so a Welsh D and a Highland would come under that.

 

[mazziek]

I have a highland and he is def not a cob! hes insulted by the fact, hes a scotsman thru and thru! he has quite a short mane, cos he rubs it. but def dnt look cobby. i used t have a cob and he was actually lighter built. my farrier just calls him fatty!

 

[Silverspring]

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i think you'll find PS, that welsh D's are ALWAYS called "cobs"...as are welsh C's...

all the welsh breeders i know call them cobs...

they certainly wouldn't be upset

as PS has me on UI...maybe someone could quote my reply to her?

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Just for you PS

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Thanks but the reason I have her on UI is cos I don't want to read her posts

Clearly no one agrees with me on the Welsh cob point, I know 2 people with section D's and they would refer to them a section D's not cobs. As I say if someone said they owned a cob to me I'd think unknown parentage, probably piebald (to be a bit racsist!).

Poopymoo - lovely Highland, I don't like the super chunky HP's always think the slightly lighter built one's are more diverse, not that I'm biased at all after having a small HP I used to do everything on!

 

[Taffster]

Crikey you want to get yourself to some good shows with proper cobs in class, they look nothing lke pikey ponies at all! Charles Le Moinaghan won at Cheshire on an absolutely stunning grey cob! And i have a lovely d that i call cob all the time, if i'd wanted a sports horse i'd have bought one

 

[miss_c]

Genie is a Welsh Cob, and I call her a cob all time. She's just qualified for the cob championship at Royal London. A traditional style cob (not a traditional cob as in hairy, but the way cobs were) is hogged and they used to be docked. If your horse is chunky then you may well be told that they are a cob or are cobby, and I certainly wouldn't take umbridge to it!

 

[Silverspring]

The only showing classes I see are at the RHS in Edinburgh and I'm always up at the ring with the hunters, Highlands and Clydies. Might venture down to the smaller ring to watch the Arabs but wouldn't want to see much else. I'm not even aware of a Cob class at the Highland, does anyone know if there is one? I could go eductae myself on the coblet and try not to fall asleep

 

[AmyMay]

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Clearly no one agrees with me on the Welsh cob point

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Only because you are wrong

 

[Taffster]

There you go then - thats why your comment was garbage - you havent even seen one!

By the way I love clydesdales used to know a beautiful stallion called gambler the most beautifully minded horse i've ever met - whoever has him now (gelded unfortunately) is so very very lucky!
I would have thought the royal highland show would have strong classes for cobs but then i'd only be entering in heritage classes so cant say for sure!

 

[Hippona]

OH's mare is of unknown breed.....she is well built, looks a little like a D but is black with a white face and white feathers. And no...not at all pikey, before someone throws that in....

She came over from Ireland as a 5 year old.....I call her the (fat) Irish cob.....and that pretty much sums her up

 

[AmyMay]

And just to expand.

As Arab is the generic term for several different varieties of Arab horse (Kuhaylan, Abayyan, Hamdani, Dahman). So Cob is the generic term for the Welsh Secion A, B, C & D. But it is most commonly applied to the Section C's and D's.

The word 'Cob' is also commonly applied to gypsy / vanner types. Which is a misnomer. As these are coloured horses with their own breeding lines - or cross bred from other breeds etc.

Hope that helps PS.

 

[Silverspring]

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There you go then - thats why your comment was garbage - you havent even seen one!



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I haven't seen one what? Sorry but I gave my opinion and IMO Highlands are not cobs and neither of my friend with Section D's would appreciate them being called cobs.

I feel like every time I give an opinion on this forum I get ripped to shreds, not everyone see's the world in the same light and not everyone has had the same experience.

No I have never seen a cob class, I have seen plenty of M&M and competed in a fair few too. At every yard I have been at they have been called cobs or Section D,C,B or A's never Welsh Cobs or show cobs or cobs types. If it's registered with a stud book I'd call it by the breed no the type.

I give up even trying, I'm clearly just not liked, I don't think have been out right rude (unlike certain poster) maybe a bit controversial but I have never resorted to name calling or the general pack behaviour that so many poster seem to follow.

 

[Honeypots]

Welsh A & B's are ponies not cobs. Only the Welsh D is a cob. The C is a pony of cob type....

 

[AmyMay]

Thank you Honeypots for correction me

 

[Honeypots]

Aim to please

Besides my little dainty Welsh A wouldn't appreciate being called a cob

 

[AmyMay]

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Sorry but I gave my opinion and IMO Highlands are not cobs and neither of my friend with Section D's would appreciate them being called cobs.

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You are correct - Highlands are not cobs. And unfortunately for your friends, their Section D's are. They should be proud to own such a magnificent breed.

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I feel like every time I give an opinion on this forum I get ripped to shreds, not everyone see's the world in the same light and not everyone has had the same experience.

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But you are giving an opinion on something without knowing (in this instance) what you are talking about. As earlier, a Cob is the term for Setion C's & D's, as an Arab is for the breeds I listed above. That;s all...

 

[lauraandjack]

Don't think many section B's would either!

 

[miss_c]

PS - I agree with you that Highlands are not cobs, they are a breed, although they are chunky and may be referred to by some people as being 'cobby'.

On the other hand, a Welsh D is definately a cob... A Welsh Cob, but a cob all the same.

Personally I am perfectly happy for people to call my Genie a cob, as that is what she is (and believe me, I sometimes call her much worse!!!).

Not too sure how we got from Highlands to Welsh Cobs, but there you go!

 

[Taffster]

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The only showing classes I see are at the RHS in Edinburgh and I'm always up at the ring with the hunters, Highlands and Clydies. Might venture down to the smaller ring to watch the Arabs but wouldn't want to see much else. I'm not even aware of a Cob class at the Highland, does anyone know if there is one? I could go eductae myself on the coblet and try not to fall asleep

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My wording was probably a bit harsh, however a cob is often extremely well bred and a good show cob is very hard to find and comes with a hefty price tag. I dont often see gypsy vanner type cobs in proper cob classes and if they are they are in general hogged and trimmed.
A welsh cob is just that a cob if some owners want to pretend otherwise then they shouldnt have bought one i'm proud mine is a cob as many people share the same opinion that being that they are a lesser breed, they are very underestimated.

 

[miss_c]

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A welsh cob is just that a cob if some owners want to pretend otherwise then they shouldnt have bought one i'm proud mine is a cob as many people share the same opinion that being that they are a lesser breed, they are very underestimated.

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I feel the exact same way Taffster! Welsh Cobs rock! They're hardy, good at a lot of different disciplines, and even though they're not going to go round Badminton or win the National, they'd give it a bleeding good shot!

 

[Hippona]

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I feel like every time I give an opinion on this forum I get ripped to shreds, not everyone see's the world in the same light and not everyone has had the same experience.

I give up even trying, I'm clearly just not liked, I don't think have been out right rude (unlike certain poster) maybe a bit controversial but I have never resorted to name calling or the general pack behaviour that so many poster seem to follow.

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PS....'tis sometimes cos you give your opinion in forthright manner and it may get peoples backs up.

I wouldn't worry about it.....I like you

(Even if you did shout at me about W+T dressage.....

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[Taffster]

Mine would give anything a go, it is funny though when we used to go out for a good canter with him and my tb he was a little disheartened when Archie got to the top of the hill before he reached the halfway mark - he'd then stop trying. So they are realists aswell. However when it comes to xc wh showing or dressage he'll take anything on and never fails to try his best!

 

[MurphysMinder]

PS are your friends Section Ds registered, because if so I imagine it is with the Welsh Pony and COB Society. Cannot see how they would not appreciate them being given their correct name

 

[JessPickle]

My best friend has a Highland and shows great disgust if he is classed as a cob! I have to say I wouldn't call a highland a cob, just like I wouldn't call a new forest pony a cob!

 

[ester]

Highlands no, and not sure you would call a fell/dales one either though you prob would if you crossed them out to something else. Welshies yes. Mine is more frequently referred to as my cob and actually given his type if he was perhaps a little bigger (only 14.2) would do much better showing hogged and trimmed as he rarely has welsh-type action. He came to me hogged from a jumping home and did look smart but the thought of nothing to hold on to (though I never actually do!) puts me off!

 

[Quadro]

no cobs at the highland only hunters riding horses, coloureds, side saddle hunter ponies show ponies and all the usual m&ms and sports horse youngstock, i would have thought a cob class would be fairly well spoprted as a hack class but never mind i dont show so i dont know!!!

 

[jnb]

Here is a gratuitous photo of my Show Cob, so PS (and anyone else interested) can see what one looks like?

 

[tinker512]

I used to ride a 'cob'...it was only about a year later that I got told he was actually a highland but was hogged and trimmed as he made a better cob for showing than he did a highland (also suffered from bad sweet itch)....I would never have known any different if I had not been told and did do well in cob classes when shown I believe

 

[teddyt]

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I used to ride a 'cob'...it was only about a year later that I got told he was actually a highland but was hogged and trimmed as he made a better cob for showing than he did a highland (also suffered from bad sweet itch)....I would never have known any different if I had not been told and did do well in cob classes when shown I believe

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Great tinker, just come along and confuse the issue after everone has said highlands are NOT cobs

 

[Kenzo]

I think like others say we all have different opinions of what cobs are, personally anything built like cob, be it Welsh section D, spotties, highland, Dales, maxi, cross breds that make up a cob...all cobby by type so yes if he was mine then I'd call him a cob despite if its correct or not, and wouldnt be insulted if someone said that.
Can't see what all the fuss is about.

 

[JM07]

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Crikey you want to get yourself to some good shows with proper cobs in class, they look nothing lke pikey ponies at all! Charles Le Moinaghan won at Cheshire on an absolutely stunning grey cob! And i have a lovely d that i call cob all the time, if i'd wanted a sports horse i'd have bought one

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She wouldn't have a clue what a welsh cob was...

not only that, she couldn't see it either, because her head is too far up her own arse...


PS comes across as knowing SFA about anything - but having an opinion about everything!