Is Parelli bad for the brain?

have found I can do alot of what parelli things with my wee man. Without needing a fancy stick, rope halter and dvd from a brand. All I needed was common sense. Something you get for free.
 
SIATC, by the way, a bit OT, but I read your post about your dog the other week and how you were very proud that he could jump through a hoop and that he was clearly too talented to be neutered. I then went out and taught that big fella to the left of my sig to jump through a hoop, just to see if he could, took him about ten minutes to get the idea. And without balls, too!!! No food, balls(!) or bribery involved, I asked him to jump through the hoop and he did.
 
Jennyharvey said:
Love your confidence, and i agree. I doubt anyone here can do that. For whoever asked, no its not me. I wish. Its what i can aspire too tho. I think certain people feel threatened by NH, which is fine. Let them be. I dont think us NH people should defend ourselves, as that shows we doubt our ability. Stay strong, and proud. Im sure our horses are glad.
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For what it's worth Jenny, I thought it was a lovely video too, to be fair NH is not the subject here - Parelli is and I always thought that NH people do not like to be associated with the P people?

Good training is good training, a lot of the NH stuff is good old fashioned horse sense and I don't have a problem with that at all.
 
Storminateacup said:
I ve spent almost no money on NH stuff apart from a few rope headcollars and a 12 ft line, and made my own carrot stick. So much is freely available on the internet, just do some research and save yourself a fortune.
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My boy behaves himself without a carrot stick:D
I must have Beaten him senseless to get that result:rolleyes::p
 
Storminateacup said:
Truely inspirational stuff - I bet none of the nasty bullying twits giggling about NH methods can come close to doing things like this with their horses. People often laugh when they are frightened or challenged, especially those frighten of change. Natural Horsemanship or Parelli, call it what you like perhaps circus training even, - its the way forward, its the future in horse training, - just like the dinosaurs, in time conventional training will die out.
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Hmmm funnily enough I can do some of that stuff with mine. Sirena for instance copies me in passage and spanish walk, not a carrot stick or round pen in sight.
Sorry but Parelli is going to take over the world are they? What a load of *******s.
 
SirenaXVI said:
Well said Martlin and this coming from someone whose horse chased her out of the round pen because she 'asked' him to wear a head collar :rolleyes:
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Yeah, that was over a week ago, and my youngster only arrived from Ireland 8 weeks ago in a terrible state and almost unhandled.
I freely admit I got it wrong and put him under too much pressure that day, maybe even frightened him, at least I know and accept that it was my fault. Now he will back up with me if when I am leading him I stop and step back against him gently, he can do it all the time when I gently ask. Just because I didnt get perfection first time doesn't mean I am not moving in the right direction.
At least I am willing to try a different approach, and have an open mind, thats more than can be said for some people on this forum who are a lot younger than me!.
 
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Allowing a horse to chase you out of a round pen, is not being open minded, or good for the horse. If you need to ask a horse if it wants tp put its headcollar on, then I doubt very much if you will end up with a well mannerd, ridable horse, so I hope you intend to keep this one for the whole of its life, 'cos can't see many wanting to buy it.
 
Storminateacup said:
Yeah, that was over a week ago, and my youngster only arrived from Ireland 8 weeks ago in a terrible state and almost unhandled.
I freely admit I got it wrong and put him under too much pressure that day, maybe even frightened him, at least I know and accept that it was my fault. Now he will back up with me if when I am leading him I stop and step back against him gently, he can do it all the time when I gently ask. Just because I didnt get perfection first time doesn't mean I am not moving in the right direction.
At least I am willing to try a different approach, and have an open mind, thats more than can be said for some people on this forum who are a lot younger than me!.
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Put him under too much pressure??????? It was a headcollar for god sake!

Yes you did admit you got it wrong and then on this thread you tell us what a great trainer you are, called the very people you asked for advice dinosaurs and went on to tell us that your superlative methods were going to take over the world of equestrianism - I say again total *******s!

And for what it is worth, my 16.2 arrived here as an unhandled 5yo, within a month I was on her back and she was going sweetly and quietly, I did not have to resort to asking an internet forum what I did wrong.

I don't often lose it on here but your arrogance, coupled with your ignorance has really got me going.
 
What happens if you find out you're a left brain extrovert?

But you actually want to be a right brain extrovert. Is there a game I should play so I can change sides?
 
tallyho! said:
What happens if you find out you're a left brain extrovert?

But you actually want to be a right brain extrovert. Is there a game I should play so I can change sides?
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So, if you can, does that mean Parelli is bad for the brain, since you were born that way and shouldn't try to be something you're not... :p
 
QR

Aww c'mon ladies and gentlemen, we are having a laugh and a dig at PP and his outrageously expensive, over-hyped re-invention of the wheel.

And some of us use NH (AKA common sense methods based on Horse-Sense) to get through to our horses and ponies. I'd sooner have obedience through respect, not fear and I think SIAT's unhandled youngster probably did feel threatened in a round pen on that occasion. You don't know if he had a flashback to some previous frightening occasion from which he couldn't run and, in the roundpen where he was confined, was forced to do what they do when they can't run/are cornered.

Dear me. SIAT isn't (from memory) a high-handed sort who regularly ponitifcates rubbish from an Ivory Tower. The horse is OK now, please move on.

We have progressed from using ignorant force and expecting horses to comply with our muddled instructions, to much more sympathetic methods, based on using what makes horses tick to overcome the language barrier. We should also be able to recognise a remadial horse from an A* pupil and I don't think ability always implies quick intelligence in a horse! So, can we get back to insulting PP devotees, rather than one of our more enlightened own?
 
im liking this post..
we have some of the parelli cult members living on there yard... :'(
stresses me out if i ever have a problem there there waiting ropehead coller in one hand carrot stick in the other!!
iv found its mainly the kids that do this ... well there same age as me 18.
when i question them about it its always the same thing teaches them respect ( normally say this while being dragged away by there '' respectful'' horse )
i attempted this out of sheer curiosity .. i ended up with my arm in a sling from badly pulling my muscle in my arm when i attempted to touch my welsh with the carrot stick .. and my rescue pony was a nervose wreck.
hmm no thanks i will stick to the whole spending time with them and grooming them and a smack on the shoulder when there naughty and pat when there good ... its worked for the past 14 years =]
x
 
brighteyes said:
QR

Aww c'mon ladies and gentlemen, we are having a laugh and a dig at PP and his outrageously expensive, over-hyped re-invention of the wheel.
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PMSL

But come one people, we are forgetting what a talented businessman this guy is.
He has managed to make a fortune out of selling common sense!
What else could we sell to make this amount of money...

In fact all I need to make my fortune is a wholesale order of ropes, pedestalls, halters, supplements, glorified lunge whips, barrels, saddles, bridles, bits, exercise balls, etc, and I will be a rich person!
:P
 
brighteyes said:
QR

Aww c'mon ladies and gentlemen, we are having a laugh and a dig at PP and his outrageously expensive, over-hyped re-invention of the wheel.

And some of us use NH (AKA common sense methods based on Horse-Sense) to get through to our horses and ponies. I'd sooner have obedience through respect, not fear and I think SIAT's unhandled youngster probably did feel threatened in a round pen on that occasion. You don't know if he had a flashback to some previous frightening occasion from which he couldn't run and, in the roundpen where he was confined, was forced to do what they do when they can't run/are cornered.

Dear me. SIAT isn't (from memory) a high-handed sort who regularly ponitifcates rubbish from an Ivory Tower. The horse is OK now, please move on.

We have progressed from using ignorant force and expecting horses to comply with our muddled instructions, to much more sympathetic methods, based on using what makes horses tick to overcome the language barrier. We should also be able to recognise a remadial horse from an A* pupil and I don't think ability always implies quick intelligence in a horse! So, can we get back to insulting PP devotees, rather than one of our more enlightened own?
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Sorry brighteyes I did lose it there for a moment
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I am composed again now and am ready to take orders for my superlative coloured balls :)
 
Everytime I hear the "Common Sense" put down it usually comes fiom someone who ends up saying they've been around horse for years therefore I'm presuming "common sense" = experiance.
The trouble with common sense is that it seems people don't(can't)want to share it they just look smug say "Its common sense" and leave you to struggle
 
PMSL at this thread!

JJ some things can be taught, and some can't. I for one wouldn't be able to tell you how I know the difference between a horse taking the P with me and a horse being genuinely scared, it's just something I know.
That video with the haffy was brilliant, he looked like he was really having a lot of fun. I've nothing against NH methods, but when a so-called "NH trainer" picks up a rope and starts clouting my horse around the head with it then I have a problem.
 
Storminateacup said:
Truely inspirational stuff - I bet none of the nasty bullying twits giggling about NH methods can come close to doing things like this with their horses. People often laugh when they are frightened or challenged, especially those frighten of change. Natural Horsemanship or Parelli, call it what you like perhaps circus training even, - its the way forward, its the future in horse training, - just like the dinosaurs, in time conventional training will die out.
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If P was the only way forward i would give up horses for good for their sakes.
I have created my own methods over the years by learning from the horses. Never a whip or long line in sight. I have 'lunatics' that are extremly well behaved and have a real bond with us.
 
horses13 said:
If P was the only way forward i would give up horses for good for their sakes.
I have created my own methods over the years by learning from the horses. Never a whip or long line in sight. I have 'lunatics' that are extremly well behaved and have a real bond with us.
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luckily parelli isnt the only way forward.
 
Seeing as everyone is posting here, just thought i would ask a question. Lance Whitehouse is riding in an unusual bit on page 52 of this weeks H&H. Does anyone know what it is? It actually looks like a driving bit, but maybe it isnt.
 
Crikey, I go to a barbeque, drink too much sangria, come home, sleep, wake up and find all this?? What on earth...?

I'd like to state that I keep my horses as natural as possible. Two of them choose not to be ridden, one of them appears to enjoy being chased around the round pen with a large whip and the other chooses to run away from me in the field. I allow them to express this natural behaviour as I am kind and lovely.

The other two enjoy being strapped down and tied up with leather straps and metal devices and so I allow them to partake of this too (both boys...go figure) and regularly beat them into a lather while jumping huge objects and chasing a small rubber ball at speed.

I'm pretty sure that if I had a one eyed horsie or ponio that I would also give them the right to be beaten around the head with a vegetable if they wished.

I'm afraid I am of Irish descent and therefore (although not of the travelling community) am probably considered racist for supporting the american parellis. Although, again the tyres they make are rather too expensive for me.


Here endeth today's lesson.
 
2. The Green balls are a subliminal representation of the state of most male parelli practioners manly parts when said horse finds a new game and double barrels them in the ging gang goolies.
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Sorry but I think this introduces a market for dark purple ones to match the manly ones in this scenario - it is the face that normally goes green in this situation.:D
 
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