Is this a bad idea ??

[Xmasha]

So, a friend of mine is looking for another lab,after his sadly died .
He wants a silver lab, ideally one that’s over 4 months and he’s found one near me. So I suggested he let me know the breeder so I can ask the breeder of Stirling if she knows them etc etc ( I did suggest he considers a different colour as I’ve read the silvers are not pure bred and have health problems )
I messaged our breeder , she’s only decided to sell Stirling’s full brother as he’s grown a bit too tall .

I know what they say about litter mates, but given they’ve not grown up together would it be a good or a bad idea for his brother to come here ?

It’s not a given as I haven broached the subject with husband .

 

[AmyMay]

I look forward to the pictures

 

[The Xmas Furry]

I look forward to the pictures

Yes, absolutely this!

 

[Clodagh]

If the silvers come from health tested parents I’d not worry. But I think they can be prone to poor digestion/skin issues.
And as for you having Stirlings brother as long as with any dogs the same age you do stuff with them separately as well as together it should be fine.

 

[MurphysMinder]

I had a pup returned to me at about 5 months old due to owners ill health . I was persuaded (against my better judgement) to let a couple who had his litter brother take him . I advised them to train separately etc and all was good until they reached about 18 months and then the problems started . They had 2 fairly serious fights , and as by this time the owner was pregnant the dog had to be rehomed again . Luckily this time he found his forever home with someone who’d had a pup from me in the past . I know sometimes siblings can work out but I would always be very wary o f doing it now .

 

[Xmasha]

I had a pup returned to me at about 5 months old due to owners ill health . I was persuaded (against my better judgement) to let a couple who had his litter brother take him . I advised them to train separately etc and all was good until they reached about 18 months and then the problems started . They had 2 fairly serious fights , and as by this time the owner was pregnant the dog had to be rehomed again . Luckily this time he found his forever home with someone who’d had a pup from me in the past . I know sometimes siblings can work out but I would always be very wary o f doing it now .

That’s what was worrying me tbh .
The breeder suggested if we bring his brother home we get one or both castrated ?

 

[CorvusCorax]

Would rather have two known siblings than a complete unkown/fancy colour.

 

[MurphysMinder]

Would rather have two known siblings than a complete unkown/fancy colour.

I think it’s a friend looking for the silver , rather than Asha

 

[Clodagh]

I had a pup returned to me at about 5 months old due to owners ill health . I was persuaded (against my better judgement) to let a couple who had his litter brother take him . I advised them to train separately etc and all was good until they reached about 18 months and then the problems started . They had 2 fairly serious fights , and as by this time the owner was pregnant the dog had to be rehomed again . Luckily this time he found his forever home with someone who’d had a pup from me in the past . I know sometimes siblings can work out but I would always be very wary o f doing it now .

Actually I hadn’t factored in fighting, I was thinking more ignoring you!

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

We have had siblings for donkey's years. We'll over 50 yrs in fact and never had a problem. Admittedly almost all have been bitches but we did have brother and sister. The dog was found to have PRA and his sister frequently acted as his guide dog (before the days of testing). We also have had father and son without fights.
I would be very wary of having a 'silver'. I have never had one but have had 3 brown ones, one had to be pts with non-Hodgkins lymphoma, one lived to be almost 15 with epilepsy and a mild allergy to grass seeds. The brown rehome that we have now also appears to be developing a grass allergy.
Breeding for colour seems to over-ride orher considerations in some breeders.

 

[Laurac13]

I heard if you have 2 males it is best to get at least one castrated so they are both not dominant

 

[Xmasha]

The silver isn’t for me .

The silver is for a friend, he lost his silver one last week . The poor pup only 12 months old had cancer and had to be PTS when his leg snapped due to the tumour .

Our Stirling and his brother are chocolate show type labs .
I’m not keen on the silver ones for many reasons . Health being one but I don’t like the look of them either .

Photo of Stirling to show the type I like . Chunky & short legged ( bit like me )

 

[CorvusCorax]

Sorry, not enough coffee this morning

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

The silver isn’t for me .

The silver is for a friend, he lost his silver one last week . The poor pup only 12 months old had cancer and had to be PTS when his leg snapped due to the tumour .

Our Stirling and his brother are chocolate show type labs .
I’m not keen on the silver ones for many reasons . Health being one but I don’t like the look of them either .

Photo of Stirling to show the type I like . Chunky & short legged ( bit like me )

That would put me off having another silver! I said never again after my original brown pair, even though the long-lived one was one of those 'special' dogs that you get sometimes. We decided that rehoming wasn't the same as supporting the breeder, odd logic, maybe.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

The silver isn’t for me .

The silver is for a friend, he lost his silver one last week . The poor pup only 12 months old had cancer and had to be PTS when his leg snapped due to the tumour .

Our Stirling and his brother are chocolate show type labs .
I’m not keen on the silver ones for many reasons . Health being one but I don’t like the look of them either .

Photo of Stirling to show the type I like . Chunky & short legged ( bit like me )

He is beautiful.

 

[oldandgold]

Not a clue about silver labs, but many many years ago we had 2 cockers, we had one who was supposed to be mine but from day one she decided she was my dad's dog, 12 months later
we contacted the breeder and asked if she knew of any litters and told us she was letting the girl go she had thought about breeding from her but decided against it and so we had 2 litter sisters
albeit 12 months apart. They were absolutely fine as long as they were feBd separately - about 12 foot away from each other. What we did find out later though was that the 2nd girl had ingrowing eyelashes and
cost us a fortune at the vets, the first one was absolutely fine health wise. Buyer beware as they say

 

[BallyRoanBaubles]

If it’s not a good idea to have litter siblings (I’ve no real idea on this) could you persuade friend to have stirlings brother?

 

[CorvusCorax]

If it’s not a good idea to have litter siblings (I’ve no real idea on this) could you persuade friend to have stirlings brother?

This is genuinely what I thought the point of the thread was - and an ideal solution

 

[PippiPantoPony]

I have ex racing greyhound litter sisters. Mostly because they have always been together and it's hard to rehome pairs and I asked the rescue to show me hard to home dogs. The dynamics are interesting and it been fascinating to watch them change as they have settled into retirement. Wiss is the smaller and more timid of the 2 but she has the brains. Laura is large, more dominant and generally more forward and is certainly the brawn. We have to feed them separately, but Wiss will no longer allow her sister to push her off food, bones or toys and will stand up for herself much more.
They are a joy, but being such a pair bond i do worry about the day we lose one as to how the other will be.

 

[Birker2020]

So, a friend of mine is looking for another lab,after his sadly died .
He wants a silver lab, ideally one that’s over 4 months and he’s found one near me. So I suggested he let me know the breeder so I can ask the breeder of Stirling if she knows them etc etc ( I did suggest he considers a different colour as I’ve read the silvers are not pure bred and have health problems )
I messaged our breeder , she’s only decided to sell Stirling’s full brother as he’s grown a bit too tall .

I know what they say about litter mates, but given they’ve not grown up together would it be a good or a bad idea for his brother to come here ?

It’s not a given as I haven broached the subject with husband .

I read somewhere that there was much debate and controversy surrounding silver labs and the possibility that they were crossed with Weinmarner's years ago. Not sure if that is true or not. Don't think it really matters but I expect they will be very expensive given their rarity a bit like a Tibetan terrier or a Blue Lacy.

 

[Katieg123]

Can someone fill me in on what they say about littermates? I've never heard of issues before!

 

[CorvusCorax]

I wouldn't do it again, mine lived apart for the first six to eight months and then we went and got the sister of our existing dog for some reason. Sure, they entertained each other but they were pair bonded and more focused on each other than me/anything else and not very independent/the female particularly lost the plot if they were separated, the male coped better. Although I am sure it works better for some households than others, I wanted to do sports with one or both of them (the female was totally unsuitable but the male was OK).

 

[Xmasha]

This is genuinely what I thought the point of the thread was - and an ideal solution

If it’s not a good idea to have litter siblings (I’ve no real idea on this) could you persuade friend to have stirlings brother?

I agree. I think , as I found out about Stirlings brother by asking for my friend it’s only right I mention him to him . I’m just waiting for friend to ring me back .

 

[Xmasha]

Friend has just called , he’s very interested in Stirlings brother . He’s going to speak to his wife

 

[druid]

Silver labs are prone to dilution alopecia, atopic dermatits and just so many other issues. A barge pole wouldn't keep me far enough from one.

Hope your friend takes your pups brother instead

 

[Xmasha]

im shocked, ive just had a message from the friend. They will only consider a silver. Why on earth would you turn down a well bred KC reg chocolate that has had all the health tests done, been house trained and done puppy classes for a fraction of its true cost, to get a silver . Especially when your last one had such serious health issues.

i just dont get it.

I will broach the subject with my family, but in all honesty i got the feeling they didnt think it was a good idea at the moment. ( im going in for my hip done in a few weeks so timings a bit off )

 

[CorvusCorax]

Well then don't ever listen to them complain if health issues crop up. Colour doesn't matter a damn if the dog isn't healthy. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, as they say...

 

[Errin Paddywack]

All I can say is that he is an idiot. To put colour above health is madness.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

I am speechless

And that doesnt happen often

 

[Teaselmeg]

Oh dear, I would step away from helping your friend. I don't know how they can want another silver dog, who then may have similar issues to their previous dog. If something happens with another silver, you may get the blame ?