Is this acceptable?

[Sealine]

Is it acceptable to keep a 6 month old newly weaned foal on a livery yard in a stable on it's own where it can't see any other horses (it can hear them). Owner visits once and day and takes it for a short walk and grazing in hand with no turn out. The stable is large in relation to the foal.

Opinions please.

 

[TheMule]

Well no, of course it's not. The only conceivable reason would be a period of quarantine- which is advisable to do with a newly acquired foal- but there are far better ways to do it.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

I certainly wouldn't keep a foal in those circumstances.

 

[AmyMay]

Is it acceptable to keep a 6 month old newly weaned foal on a livery yard in a stable on it's own where it can't see any other horses (it can hear them). Owner visits once and day and takes it for a short walk and grazing in hand with no turn out. The stable is large in relation to the foal.

Opinions please.

 

[Landcruiser]

Poor little thing. That's not meeting its basic needs.

 

[southerncomfort]

It's bloody wicked is what it is.

 

[Sealine]

Thanks. Just sanity checking my own thoughts on this situation. Livery yard owner is non-horsey and thinks it's ok because apparently the breeder says it's ok. The breeder gave the foal away. We've tried to talk to the owner and the yard owner but apparently we are out of order and it's none of our business. I'm so upset about the poor little thing. It's been there a few weeks now with no plan to change anything.

 

[Lexi 123]

Nope a Foal shouldn’t be kept like that. any horse under the age of 4 doesn’t belongs in a livery yard as they needs aren’t meet and they don’t have a proper upbringing .

 

[SpeedyPony]

No. Unless you are box resting after an injury/illness, but even then it would be kinder for him to have company within sight.

 

[AmyMay]

Thanks. Just sanity checking my own thoughts on this situation. Livery yard owner is non-horsey and thinks it's ok because apparently the breeder says it's ok. The breeder gave the foal away. We've tried to talk to the owner and the yard owner but apparently we are out of order and it's none of our business. I'm so upset about the poor little thing. It's been there a few weeks now with no plan to change anything.

Call WHW. It’s absolutely appalling treatment. You may also want to let the YO of their responsibility with regards duty of care.

You can also put a call in to your local council animal control and lisencing department to report your concerns.

 

[Gloi]

It isn't but it happens a lot

 

[Pinkvboots]

Is it acceptable to keep a 6 month old newly weaned foal on a livery yard in a stable on it's own where it can't see any other horses (it can hear them). Owner visits once and day and takes it for a short walk and grazing in hand with no turn out. The stable is large in relation to the foal.

Opinions please.

No that's just cruel it must be climbing the walls.

 

[Abacus]

I agree that it is totally unacceptable. Out of interest (and it won’t change that opinion) how is the foal coping with this regime?

 

[SEL]

BHS are useful in this kind of situation - they will come out with the aim of educating

 

[pistolpete]

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

Well no, of course it's not. The only conceivable reason would be a period of quarantine- which is advisable to do with a newly acquired foal- but there are far better ways to do it.

Agreed.

OP, this is a welfare issue.

 

[ycbm]

Call to World Horse Welfare is overdue.
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[[153312]]

THAT is barbaric and setting the poor blameless creature up for a lifetime of mental and physical problems if it goes on too long (if they've not been done already).
BHS, Bluecross and WHW would all intervene I would hope and should be first port of call.
Poor little one

 

[Sealine]

I've been told it's already been reported to BHS Welfare and it's not neglect so there is nothing they can do. I'll try WHW.

The owner believes 'it's happy' and 'it's quiet because it's Dad was'. He looks a bit shut down and depressed to me. I have a little experience of foals and youngsters and for their physical and mental development I believe foals should be out 24/7 with at least one other youngster and a quiet older horses and left to be a baby.

 

[irishdraft]

Of course this is not acceptable OP please try to help this poor foal x

 

[Pinkvboots]

It's sure way to really screw up a horse let them read this thread bloody idiots.

 

[Barton Bounty]

I've been told it's already been reported to BHS Welfare and it's not neglect so there is nothing they can do. I'll try WHW.

The owner believes 'it's happy' and 'it's quiet because it's Dad was'. He looks a bit shut down and depressed to me. I have a little experience of foals and youngsters and for their physical and mental development I believe foals should be out 24/7 with at least one other youngster and a quiet older horses and left to be a baby.

If you can, document everything…, video evidence is the best

 

[Glitterandrainbows]

I think the lack or turnout and no company when in it’s going to end up with stable vices probably and be unhappy

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

Nope a Foal shouldn’t be kept like that. any horse under the age of 4 doesn’t belongs in a livery yard as they needs aren’t meet and they don’t have a proper upbringing .

Wildly sweeping statement alert....

Horrible treatment OP, I can imagine it's quite distressing to witness - poor little mite.

 

[Asha]

God no . Poor foal . Please point the owner to this forum to get some advice .

 

[AdorableAlice]

Call WHW. It’s absolutely appalling treatment. You may also want to let the YO of their responsibility with regards duty of care.

You can also put a call in to your local council animal control and lisencing department to report your concerns.

Absolutely nothing to do with trading standards or licensing, neither will be of help.

 

[Somewhat Off The Way]

Worried about a horse? - World Horse Welfare

If you are worried about the welfare of a horse in the UK, find out how to report the situation.

worldhorsewelfare.org

 

[BSL2]

how can anyone even query if this this is acceptable. No more words.,...

 

[BallyJ]

Depending on where you are try Bransby also - they’ve always been straight to the point and pragmatic when I’ve had dealings with them

 

[Laurac13]

Poor poor foal and bliddy stupid owner