Is this common/acceptable YO behaviour?

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Is it normal for YO's to actually go into your horses paddock on a regular, if not daily basis without informing you/asking permission?

I have just found out this evening that this is what happens and I feel quite uncomfortable about it. I wouldn't be happy if the YO went into my horses stable without permission when he was in it to have a look around so I don't see why it's ok for them to go into his field when he's in it.

Obviously this wouldn't be an issue if it was an emergency and my horse required urgent vet attention/fencing down etc but to just go in to check all of the paddock to see if you have poo-picked seems abnormal to me. (I poo pick daily)

He is a young horse, not good with people he doesn't know and I just don't like people being near my horse like that without my permission.

Is this common or a bit off?
 
Well I don't see why he/she would, however presumably the land belongs to them so don't really see the need for them to check with a livery before accessing their own land!
 
is there a reason why they are in there? seems unusual to go in for no reason

If they were in their treating and petting my horse I wouldnt be too happy but if not I see no reason to be concerned
 
If it's individual turnout, then a bit unusual, my YO will go in to check fencing etc on occasion, but then she knows my horse, knows what makes him tick, and can read him. She would never go in just to check I was doing my poo picking etc, and she doesn't go in daily. She would go in if I wasn't about and there was something wrong.
 
I don't have any total DIY's they are assisted at this time of year, part or full in winter, I get 2 in and feed them each morning they are turned out together in one field split in two, I regularly wander round the fields including "theirs" it is my land and I like to check the boundary hedges to ensure any gaps can be dealt with before they develop, I don't see a problem with me doing this it is in their interest that the hedges and fencing is in good order.
I also like to know all the horses here so in an emergency I can handle them as the owners cannot always be available at the end of the phone, your horse may be tricky to deal with but it can only be beneficial if he can be handled by someone else easily, you never know when you may need to call on the YO as long as they are competent I would be pleased they were taking an interest, if they are not competent then maybe it is not the ideal yard for you, if they are OCD about poo picking and see you are doing it and that is the only reason they are in there they may stop once you have been at the yard a while.
 
I am very confused as to why anyone would think it strange. YO owns the field so why can't he/she go in? I would actually feel happier to know a YO regularly went in my horses' field if I kept them at livery. I have them at home, but have kept them at livery in the past and think it perfectly normal for YOs to go into the fields.
 
So it is normal/common then! I've not come across this before. There we go, learn something new everyday!

That said, we rent a house but our landlord doesn't pop in everyday when they feel like it to check we've cleaned......
 
Is there a reason you are asking, I have mine at home, but have been on yards before, the only time I objected to YM taking an interest was when removed hay from my stable, despite me paying more because mine are large horses, as opposed to the normal pony livery
 
Illusion100 said:
So it is normal/common then! I've not come across this before. There we go, learn something new everyday!

That said, we rent a house but our landlord doesn't pop in everyday when they feel like it to check we've cleaned......
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speaking from experience, landlords do take an interest, mine asked me to close off the big field for the winter, current landlord questioned the electricity used in the barn, referred him to his shepherd on that one
 
The principle is the same, to me at least anyway!

Fine, the general opinion is that it is common, this is why I asked as I wasn't sure.

At any previous yard this has not happened so this is a new one to me.

You can easily see all of the fencing (individual paddock with wooden posts and electric) and whether it has been poo-picked from outside the paddock.

So in this case, I also assume it's normal for a YO to go into your horses stable with it on an evening to check what they want and move things around?
 
My YO checked the paddock daily (not individual turnout) and I/we were always happy with the extra pair of eyes. Checking just to keep track of things would be more than fine with me.
 
I don't ask my livery permission to check our field or collect things we might share like water carriers if I need for a show. I don't snoop on her or her stuff or borrow it as she's totally separate but if I want access I have a key!
 
Illusion100 said:
The principle is the same, to me at least anyway!

Fine, the general opinion is that it is common, this is why I asked as I wasn't sure.

At any previous yard this has not happened so this is a new one to me.

You can easily see all of the fencing (individual paddock with wooden posts and electric) and whether it has been poo-picked from outside the paddock.

So in this case, I also assume it's normal for a YO to go into your horses stable with it on an evening to check what they want and move things around?
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What are they checking for in the stable? And what are they moving around exactly??
 
I wouldn't care if mine did I trust her completely and we very much help each other out as its not a livery yard she just has the extra room and I am actually the first livery they have had on their land but I look after my field and just let her know when the electric fence battery needs changing. I put mine in a smaller paddock 2 weeks ago and no one other than my sister and I have been up to that part of the land other than for a battery to be changed.
 
I wouldn't have a problem with YO going into field or going into stable, I trust they are competent or I wouldn't be a livery. It's their land/property and it's at relatively high risk of being damaged with a low value return. Very different to a house.
 
ihatework said:
It sounds a bit weird on your part tbh!
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This! Am sorry but really dont see what the problem is?? Sounds responsible and aboveboard to me? I'm a YO, it's my land, and if I want to walk on it for whatever reason I will? Do you suspect your YO of something untoward or what? I check paddocks regularly and I know my clients appreciate it.
 
If the YO owns the field/land in question then the answer has got to be "yes".

Would you rather OP that the YO never sees the state of the field of the fencing, so as to keep the pasture in good condition, inspect water supply, and check for any fencing/gates needed repairing? Also if there's a horse in trouble i.e. got rug straps caught up under its feet, you'll be very glad of a diligent YO who keeps their finger on the pulse and sees what's going on.

If you DON'T want YO in the field, then no good complaining if the grazing is awful, fencing is falling apart, and gates are in a state.
 
IMO the difference between renting a house and having horse on livery, is that you pay rent for the whole property, on a livery yard you pay per horse, even if they are in individual turnout paddcks the YO has the right to access. If you rent a house your landlord does not become responsible for your wellbeing, a YO does become responsible for the welfare of your horse.
 
As I see it you rent the stable plus grazing, I kind of feel the stable is personal to me/mine and would feel a bit weird if someone went in when my horse was in it but not totally freaked out. In the paddock, well ours get worked on fences etc so the farm hands go in, never worried about that. It's a working farm so yes lots of people about, it's not the same as renting a house but even then the landord can go in(with notice).
 
Be grateful for having such a good YO who takes pride in the yard! I wish my old one had cared half as much.

She could be checking for rabbit holes, weeds, broken fencing that can't be seen from afar, making sure water troughs are working, checking for any minor injuries ... All good and helpful things in my book!
 
YO can wander the field as much as he likes, in fact, I'd hope he did regularly to make checks. Going in my stable would make me ask why and I don't think he should be moving your stuff round.

Renting a house, the tenants are protected, the owner may not simply walk in as and when he pleases. Notice must be given.
 
A good opportunity for your horse to get used to people other than yourself being around. Can't see the problem myself. On a livery yard, customers pay for the right to graze their horse on a patch of land NOT rent for the land. It is the YOs duty to check the land/fences/water troughs etc and IMO a bonus if they are in the fields when the owners are not there. Most liveries will only be there twice a day.
 
I'd say it's fairly common. Your YO needs access to check the fencing on a regular basis and to check for any dangerous plants and any rubbish that may have been dropped or blown into the field. Some also like to do a quick check of all the horses under their care to make sure they haven't injured themself. I'd find it more odd if they weren't checking if I'm honest but if you don't want them to then approach them and discuss it
 
The only reason they go in on a daily basis is because they are OCD about poo picking. As I mentioned the state of the fencing is easily visible without going in the paddock.

They don't go in to check water, there are no automatic troughs. My horses water trug had been moved this morning and left practically unfilled, I arrived to my field to find another livery topping it up and it wasn't where I left it and I know my horse does not empty that big trug overnight. Another livery co-incidently had the same issue and perhaps others did too.

With regards to paddock management, mine is still pacing a whopping track, his feet are getting worse and he's unsettled. YO not bothered about that though. If you've missed a poo, you get a text to clear it asap. If a horse has a rug strap loose or something like that I'm told that you get a text to say come up to see to it asap as your horse is your own responsibility.

I realise that it's just me that has an issue with this but previously no YO has gone into an enclosed area with my horse without letting me know unless it was an emergency. So if my horse kicks them for whatever reason, it's not my problem right?
 
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