Kate Mccann is now an official suspect.

I must admit that I have found the parent's behaviour very odd from day one.
I have been keeping up to date with the story throughout and what concerned me throughout and especially in the early days after the 'disappearance' of Madeline was their lack of grief.
For me personally I would be totally inconsolable.
I was talking to mum about it tonight as we spoke about the case and she agreed she would feel the same way. In fact I think she said it before me.
The little girl's disappearance and not knowing who had took her and what she had suffered or is still suffering and her ultimate fate I would find unbearable if that was me, and if the girl was my daughter.
Katy ( not singling you out btw) but you said your sister is a health professional who has dealt with death in her job.
I have had to deal with death in my job recently working in a care home.
My mum has had to deal with death in her job as a health professional too and yet she has found this case disturbing and at times has been upset by deaths. I think we all cope differently with death that's all.
However in the case of your sister and not being nasty btw. I am sorry about the death of her baby x
I think maybe her job may have helped her to cope with the grief of losing her son. But the big difference here is that she knew her son had died and had seen him as such. There was closure. I think this is why she was able to cope in the way that she did.

So far as the McGann's have led us to believe there has been no closure. ie Madeline had not been found safe and well and nor has her body been found up to yet.
Without some sort of closure you would be distraught, or at least I would.
The not knowing what had happened and where she was would have killed me inside. But that is just me and perhaps other people may have acted differently.
But I have yet to see any real grief from these people as I did from the parents of Sarah Payne and Jamie Bulger.
Maybe I am being too harsh?
Maybe I am just very psd at the parents for leaving the children as they did?
Maybe there are too many questions not being answered?
Finally just maybe things just don't seem to add up?
Whatever my questions and whatever the answers may finally be, I am sure that this poor little girl is dead and that she may have suffered before her death
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Whoever is responsible for her death I just hope that justice is served swift and correctly. There should be no acquittal in my opinion if the McGann's are involved ( which my own instinct is telling me they are).
The only person I feel empathy for is Madeline and NO ONE ELSE!
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How many times have you seen them behind closed doors?? these people are completely distraught, you are way out of line making those harsh comments, have you been on the find madeleine site? and read gerrys blogs everyday? Without a shadow of a doubt they love all three of their children more than life its self, your attidude would be well suited to the middle ages.
 
1. If they are directly responsible, they were very clever and cool, to stay on in Portugal for weeks, as though they were not giving up on her return

2. If they killed her by mistake, strange considering she was an IVF baby.

3. If they killed her by mistake and moved her body three weeks later, that's why they hired the car then, and why they stayed in Portugal in the first place.

I have children, and I can't imagine how I'd behave after a disappearance. I reckon, I may LOOK as calm and still as she did, but be half dead inside. I doubt I'd carry a stuffed toy around with me with a straight arm, down by my side. Possibly I'd be holding it tight. For sure, I'd be holding tight to the other child all the time.
 
I've been swayed by the press. That I'm now ashamed of.

the more i sit and think about it, the more I think the McCanns are innocent.

The DNA could easily have some from anywhere. It's such a vague piece of 'evidence'.

How on earth would they have hidden a body for 25 days? these are medical people who would know that it would beincredibly difficult to not only hide a body but DNA and traces of blood too. Unless they plotted to kill her (like a serial murderer would) and looked into ways of getting rid of blood traces, DNA, body etc, they'd find it pretty hard to do after an 'accident' in a foreign country.

These are people who PAID for IVF for this child. She was a much wanted child.

I seriously think peolple are being swayed too much by the press and what they feel they'd do. Everyone is different.

Most of the stuff which has been spouted is just gossip.
The Portugese police have made a huge cock up of this investigation and they know it.
 
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Wouldn't that be a reason to stay there, make the story stick, you'd have to appear to be doing everything you could to find her and not give up on hope.

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2. If they killed her by mistake, strange considering she was an IVF baby.

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What has that got to do with it?

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3. If they killed her by mistake and moved her body three weeks later, that's why they hired the car then, and why they stayed in Portugal in the first place.


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Quite, then it became a commercial rollercoaster.

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I have children, and I can't imagine how I'd behave after a disappearance. I reckon, I may LOOK as calm and still as she did, but be half dead inside. I doubt I'd carry a stuffed toy around with me with a straight arm, down by my side. Possibly I'd be holding it tight. For sure, I'd be holding tight to the other child all the time.

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Exactly, one thing I always found bizarre, if I had just had a child kidnapped I personally wouldn't let the others out of my sight! Let alone jet off to meet the pope!
 
exactly katy, they have been under constant police watch scince it happened, and also if they had commited such a dreadfull crime to you really think they would have been out having a relaxed meal, i think their friends (who were nearly all doctors) would have noticed something suspicious. I think there being framed somehow. I also think people are incredibly judgemental, nobody nos how you would react in this circumstance, and looking at kate maccanns body weight, she looks terribly thin to me, this in its self is a sign of severe distress, i think some people really want blood from a stone.
 
'your attidude would be well suited to the middle ages.'
Mmm don't understand where you are coming from there perhaps you would care to explain?
Maybe the Mcgann's are capable of hiding grief in public but why the hell for? You are not weak to be seen to cry.
Personally if it was my child missing I would not be jetting of to say prayers with the pope or writing blogs I would be badgering the police and other authorities to help find my child.
Prayers do nothing and that is a fact.
Asking questions like did you see, do you remember etc does.
Posting pictures and doing reconstructions will get results eventually if this was indeed an abduction.
I am not saying that those haven't been done but personally I would not rest until every stone had been turned over in my fight to find my missing child.
But I think everyone has to remember that although there may be empathy towards the McGann's and their family. I personally don't feel anything for them except for their daughter. She was the innocent party in all this.
Who in their right mind would have left 3 very young children in an apartment asleep whilst you whisked away to a nearby restaurant to dine?
The guilt of what happpened should remain with them all their lives in my opinion.
It was a most stupid thing to do.
Whether they were checked upon or not.
Fact I would never have left my daughter alone like that!
It is called being a responsible parent and whether Madeline was a loved ivf conceived child or not those parents acted irresponsibly in my honest opinion which ultimately resulted in this tragic affair.
If these children had been loved so much then as a parent you would never have wanted them to have been out of your sight like that.
I don't care if my words seem harsh.
The parents were out of order to leave their children under the circumstances.
Now there is a huge guilt trip but I feel this is one that should not involve the rest of the public.
The person for whom we should be feeling empathy for is not the parents but the innocent little girl who is at the centre of this tragic story.
 
Yes i was just thinking the same thing, it makes me wonder how informed of the case some people are when they cant even get the name right... I have already discussed my feelings on them leaving the child in an earlier post, middle age attitude, well 'she must be a witch because she has got a wart on her nose, we will burn her at the stake.' In other words she has to cry everytime she is shown in public, im sure they do enough of that behind closed doors.
 
The real issue here is the fact that a lovely little girl is missing.
If she is indeed dead -whether her death was deliberate or accidental - then those responsible should be caught and charged and justice served swiftly.
If she is alive, which I hope she is -but sadly feel she is not- then no stone should be left unturned in trying to find her imo.
 
I think you should go on to the find madeleine webb site, so you can see what they have been doing. And stop judging them so harshley, no one deserves the pain they are going through, i think you have been very badly informed. Prayer is probably the only thing that gives them any comfort at the moment.
 
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Info seems to change form hour to hour, different news sites cant even agree on what the new evidence is let alone on how important it is.

I dont want to belive her parents had anything to do with this and wont belive it unless/untill they are convicted.
My mother diddnt cry in public once when my father died at 32....that doesnt mean she killed him.People react in different ways, what you see of the parents is public isnt a full picture of what they are feeling or going through.
Some people really should hold off getting the fires going................
 
Daisychain; I have to say I do agree with you; I also think they are being framed sorry to say. If we think logically then we will all realise that there is absolutely no way in heck that they could have hidden the body between raising the alarm and the police being all over that place.

The police will have been tailing them constantly and if they weren't enough then the press have followed them like flies on sh1te.

When and how do you all propose they managed to sneak away to hide the body in the first place.....and then go back to retrieve it and place it in a rental car to then bury the body 3 weeks later? This is a serious question - please can you answer this for me!

As for Kate, honestly who is their right mind thinks she looks composed and keeping it all together? Sorry but no way does that woman look in a fit state at all. She most likely has been brought up to deal with things in a professional manner and in a manner where you keep yourself contained whilst in the public eye. Maybe all of you guys who are criticising her would bawl your eyes out on TV but I know I wouldn't - my crying would be done behind closed doors - my grief would be MY grief and not the rest of the worlds.

No-one knows what happened and as time goes by it seems unlikely that we ever truly will. The parents may well be guilty; but because they do not cry in public, does NOT mean that they definitely are!

I'm just waiting for a twist in this tale - I think the press think they are very clever with coming out with all this information but I am not so sure that everything they are picking up is actually fact. It really wouldn't surprise me if the police are feeding the press with inaccuracies just to throw the scent away from their true line of enquiry.

Whatever, there really isn't a whole lot point of speculating without questioning yourselves on how in the world would it be possible for whomever to do whatever....
 
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How many times have you seen them behind closed doors?? these people are completely distraught, you are way out of line making those harsh comments, have you been on the find madeleine site? and read gerrys blogs everyday? Without a shadow of a doubt they love all three of their children

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Info seems to change form hour to hour, different news sites cant even agree on what the new evidence is let alone on how important it is.

I dont want to belive her parents had anything to do with this and wont belive it unless/untill they are convicted.

Some people really should hold off getting the fires going................

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Daisychain; I have to say I do agree with you; I also think they are being framed sorry to say. If we think logically then we will all realise that there is absolutely no way in heck that they could have hidden the body between raising the alarm and the police being all over that place.

The police will have been tailing them constantly and if they weren't enough then the press have followed them like flies on sh1te.

When and how do you all propose they managed to sneak away to hide the body in the first place.....and then go back to retrieve it and place it in a rental car to then bury the body 3 weeks later? This is a serious question - please can you answer this for me!

As for Kate, honestly who is their right mind thinks she looks composed and keeping it all together? Sorry but no way does that woman look in a fit state at all. She most likely has been brought up to deal with things in a professional manner and in a manner where you keep yourself contained whilst in the public eye. Maybe all of you guys who are criticising her would bawl your eyes out on TV but I know I wouldn't - my crying would be done behind closed doors - my grief would be MY grief and not the rest of the worlds.

No-one knows what happened and as time goes by it seems unlikely that we ever truly will. The parents may well be guilty; but because they do not cry in public, does NOT mean that they definitely are!

I'm just waiting for a twist in this tale - I think the press think they are very clever with coming out with all this information but I am not so sure that everything they are picking up is actually fact. It really wouldn't surprise me if the police are feeding the press with inaccuracies just to throw the scent away from their true line of enquiry.

Whatever, there really isn't a whole lot point of speculating without questioning yourselves on how in the world would it be possible for whomever to do whatever....

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I have to say I agree with all the above, I will believe they are innocent until proven guilty by ACTUAL evidence, released by AUTHORITIES not speculations and rumours from tabloids.

To all those you think the parents killed her, acidentally or deliberately, how could you possibly know that.........you don't your just gossiping (bordering bitching in some of the threads i've read.)

I know you can't know they didn't do it for sure either but being balanced and fair and waiting for actual evidence to come out would be better than witch hunting parents that know they made a monumental error in judgement, but by god their little girl has paid for that error and they are now having to live with whats happened and I wouldn't wish what they must be going through onto my worse enemy!

Some people need to have a heart!!!!!!!!!!
 
Are you emotionally involved in this, Daisychain?

by that i mean do you know the family personally?

relatives, perhaps?


you seem very very "involved"
 
For some awful reason I have a distinct feeling that the parents are involved, but not that they intentionally murdered the poor little child - perhaps they did give her a sedative just to be 'safe' whilst they were out + then fate took a turn. I remember somebody telling me about a boy with learning difficulties who would not sleep at night, he was given some drug or other and indeed he was quiet all night, he had suffocated in his pillow.... utterly awful, but in surch circumstances, if you were the parents would you be sure not to panic and do something seemingly irrational?
 
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A judge in Portugal is sifting through a 1,000-page dossier as Madeleine McCann's parents face an agonising wait to learn if they will be charged over her disappearance.
The judge has 10 days to consider the contents of the dossier, which was handed over by police on Tuesday.

It was passed on at the instruction of Jose Cunha de Magalhaes e Meneses, a public prosecutor based in Portimao in the Algarve.

This could mean that the prosecutor is recommending charging Kate and Gerry McCann over their daughter's disappearance, although a Portuguese lawyer said this would be unusual.

In theory, the parents could be charged within days. However, it is more likely that Mr Cunha de Magalhaes e Meneses wants to carry out fresh searches, conduct more interviews, or impose stricter bail conditions.

Whatever the prosecutor's request, the criminal instructional judge has 10 days to decide whether to agree to it.

There is widespread speculation about the contents of the 1,000-page dossier compiled by the Policia Judiciaria - Portugal's CID.

Intense attention has focused on what exactly police found in the hire car rented by Madeleine's parents 25 days after she went missing.

Detectives denied reports that forensic tests on a sample taken from the vehicle, a silver Renault Scenic, had revealed a "100% match" with the missing girl's DNA.

But senior sources linked to the investigation told Portuguese journalists they discovered "bodily fluids" - not blood - with an 88% match to Madeleine's genetic profile in the car's boot.

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Think the words 'grow up' and stop being so pedantic spring to mind actually.

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daisy - you haven't seen them behind closed doors either and we are all entitled to express a reasonable opinion. I don't think any medieval opinions have been shared here
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Just quickly, no my sister had not seen her son dead, she was at work when it happened, and came straight to ours.

She didnt want to see him dead. The Priest forced her into it.
 
No i dont know any of them, just have very carefully followed their case everyday, it has hit home very hard as i have a child of the same age, i feel actually heartbroken for madeleine and have every sympathy with her parents, i genuinely believe they couldnt possibly have any involvement, especially what they are implying regarding keeping a body hidden for 25 days, and it really grieves me to see people saying such unkind things about them, thats all, they are living a complete nightmare, and will end up having to sell their home next. I have thought at a very deep level on this case.
 
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