SmokingBabe
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You're right there is a name for her - Smart
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*applauds loudly*
Way to go Katie
You're right there is a name for her - Smart
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*applauds loudly*
Way to go Katie
Katie Price to ride at HOYS
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teddybrowne
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DD - do you believe all women should walk around with their tits out?
Smart by an imbeciles standards perhaps.
Smart by an imbeciles standards perhaps.
dieseldog
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DD - do you believe all women should walk around with their tits out?
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Yes - If they want to.
Show me a woman that doesn't
Apart from someone who is ashamed of their body or doesn't have a choice in the matter
DD - do you believe all women should walk around with their tits out?
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Yes - If they want to.
Show me a woman that doesn't
YorksG
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So in your opionion the fact that KP presents and image of women which is entirely dependant on the size of their mammary glands is acceptable. The fact that this then feeds an image of women as only being able to be judged by this and their willingness to display their breasts presumably is of no interest to you. This also feeds a societal image where all females are judged in relation to their appearance and sexual availability. I do not suggest that anyone should wear a bhurka, however I do object to pre-pubertal girls being sold trashy, tarty rubbish, endorsed by a woman who has made her living by having pornographic pictures taken of her.
skewbaldpony
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Well said, YorksG.
If you're stupid enough to play up to the knuckle draggers, fair enough, but smart? Perlease.
Having some dignity is not being ashamed of your body, it's not selling it short.
If you're stupid enough to play up to the knuckle draggers, fair enough, but smart? Perlease.
Having some dignity is not being ashamed of your body, it's not selling it short.
skewbaldpony
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Well said, YorksG.
If she's stupid enough to play up to the knuckle draggers, fair enough, but smart? Perlease.
Having some dignity is not being ashamed of your body, it's not selling it short.
If she's stupid enough to play up to the knuckle draggers, fair enough, but smart? Perlease.
Having some dignity is not being ashamed of your body, it's not selling it short.
teddybrowne
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"Show me a woman that doesn't Apart from someone who is ashamed of their body or doesn't have a choice in the matter"
- Zara Phillips
- Zara Phillips
itsme123
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Rubbish!!!
are you telling me that when out at nightclubs Zara wears polo neck tops?
Get real LOL. What are you? her mum? LOL
Every woman likes to feel that they can still get looks from men. If you havent got a pretty face what's the next best thing? show a bit of cleavage and a bit of leg. 90% of the male population are suckers for a bit of flesh. Beleive it or not, we, as humans have a natural desire to attract mates of the opposite (or same) sex.
KP happens to have made money out of it... and what? I'd get mine out if it meant my children had the opportunities and lifestyle KP's do. She's made her money and is now concentrating on other things, and is doing rather well for herself. she doesnt need to get her boobs out anymore.
I do believe we have a forum member or two who have done a bit of light glamour modelling? Members who compete quite well within the equestrian world. Should they be ashamed for doing that if it helped them fund their horses?
I actually feel your posts smack more of snobbery than anyone elses. Because what you're saying is you don't think KP should have this chance simply because she isnt a top rider and because she used to get her boobs out for money.
are you telling me that when out at nightclubs Zara wears polo neck tops?
Get real LOL. What are you? her mum? LOL
Every woman likes to feel that they can still get looks from men. If you havent got a pretty face what's the next best thing? show a bit of cleavage and a bit of leg. 90% of the male population are suckers for a bit of flesh. Beleive it or not, we, as humans have a natural desire to attract mates of the opposite (or same) sex.
KP happens to have made money out of it... and what? I'd get mine out if it meant my children had the opportunities and lifestyle KP's do. She's made her money and is now concentrating on other things, and is doing rather well for herself. she doesnt need to get her boobs out anymore.
I do believe we have a forum member or two who have done a bit of light glamour modelling? Members who compete quite well within the equestrian world. Should they be ashamed for doing that if it helped them fund their horses?
I actually feel your posts smack more of snobbery than anyone elses. Because what you're saying is you don't think KP should have this chance simply because she isnt a top rider and because she used to get her boobs out for money.
skewbaldpony
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Rubbish!!!
are you telling me that when out at nightclubs Zara wears polo neck tops?
Get real LOL. What are you? her mum? LOL
Every woman likes to feel that they can still get looks from men. If you havent got a pretty face what's the next best thing? show a bit of cleavage and a bit of leg. 90% of the male population are suckers for a bit of flesh. Beleive it or not, we, as humans have a natural desire to attract mates of the opposite (or same) sex.
KP happens to have made money out of it... and what? I'd get mine out if it meant my children had the opportunities and lifestyle KP's do. She's made her money and is now concentrating on other things, and is doing rather well for herself. she doesnt need to get her boobs out anymore.
I do believe we have a forum member or two who have done a bit of light glamour modelling? Members who compete quite well within the equestrian world. Should they be ashamed for doing that if it helped them fund their horses?
I actually feel your posts smack more of snobbery than anyone elses. Because what you're saying is you don't think KP should have this chance simply because she isnt a top rider and because she used to get her boobs out for money.
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What a complete load of whatever she decides to call her horse.
Every woman?! Get a life. I mean for a start, there are a few lesbians scratching their heads, aren't there? And I know plently of women who have more to think about than picking up lowlife by exposing themselves - what century are you in?
Rubbish!!!
are you telling me that when out at nightclubs Zara wears polo neck tops?
Get real LOL. What are you? her mum? LOL
Every woman likes to feel that they can still get looks from men. If you havent got a pretty face what's the next best thing? show a bit of cleavage and a bit of leg. 90% of the male population are suckers for a bit of flesh. Beleive it or not, we, as humans have a natural desire to attract mates of the opposite (or same) sex.
KP happens to have made money out of it... and what? I'd get mine out if it meant my children had the opportunities and lifestyle KP's do. She's made her money and is now concentrating on other things, and is doing rather well for herself. she doesnt need to get her boobs out anymore.
I do believe we have a forum member or two who have done a bit of light glamour modelling? Members who compete quite well within the equestrian world. Should they be ashamed for doing that if it helped them fund their horses?
I actually feel your posts smack more of snobbery than anyone elses. Because what you're saying is you don't think KP should have this chance simply because she isnt a top rider and because she used to get her boobs out for money.
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What a complete load of whatever she decides to call her horse.
Every woman?! Get a life. I mean for a start, there are a few lesbians scratching their heads, aren't there? And I know plently of women who have more to think about than picking up lowlife by exposing themselves - what century are you in?
dieseldog
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"Show me a woman that doesn't Apart from someone who is ashamed of their body or doesn't have a choice in the matter"
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I stand corrected - you are right Zara would never get her boobs out
"Show me a woman that doesn't Apart from someone who is ashamed of their body or doesn't have a choice in the matter"
- Zara Phillips
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I stand corrected - you are right Zara would never get her boobs out
LindaW
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Not so much a thread about KP riding at HOYS any more, but a thread about morals, role models and soft porn.
So I used to do the same as KP, It's what bought me my first horses too. Now I have a daughter. Do I want her to become one when she's older - not on your life! I'm now busy making sure she gets the best possible education. Giving her the self confidence in her abilities so that she'll go on and hopefully do well. It's my job to see that my little one knows her own worth, but I'd also like to think she'd accept people.
Do I mind how KP originally became famous? Not so much. I dislike judging people, and think you should always walk a mile in their shoes. I see a girl who was very young pulled into a world where it's normal to do what she did. She did it well and became larger than life in so many ways. In that world she could easily have been sucked into so many worse things. I've seen it for myself.
Maybe the porn isn't something to be looked up to, I feel that it isn't at all - this goes for lots of women in the public eye, lets face it sex is used to sell everything these days. However, she is a mum herself now, she appears to look after her children well. She is trying to ride well, and she honestly seems to have a real passion for it.
Do we judge just one dimension of a whole person? Live and let live.
So I used to do the same as KP, It's what bought me my first horses too. Now I have a daughter. Do I want her to become one when she's older - not on your life! I'm now busy making sure she gets the best possible education. Giving her the self confidence in her abilities so that she'll go on and hopefully do well. It's my job to see that my little one knows her own worth, but I'd also like to think she'd accept people.
Do I mind how KP originally became famous? Not so much. I dislike judging people, and think you should always walk a mile in their shoes. I see a girl who was very young pulled into a world where it's normal to do what she did. She did it well and became larger than life in so many ways. In that world she could easily have been sucked into so many worse things. I've seen it for myself.
Maybe the porn isn't something to be looked up to, I feel that it isn't at all - this goes for lots of women in the public eye, lets face it sex is used to sell everything these days. However, she is a mum herself now, she appears to look after her children well. She is trying to ride well, and she honestly seems to have a real passion for it.
Do we judge just one dimension of a whole person? Live and let live.
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No matter what Zara achieves she'll never get the credit, because she's well spoken and has a good background.
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Well that is absolute garbage. Zara is praised to the skies on a daily basis for her riding ability, you only have to read the threads about her being unable to go to the Olympics to see that.
If I was going to feel sorry for anyone, it would be for the riders that have performed consistantly better than Zara for longer but who get only 1/10th of the recognition and praise that she does.
No matter what Zara achieves she'll never get the credit, because she's well spoken and has a good background.
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Well that is absolute garbage. Zara is praised to the skies on a daily basis for her riding ability, you only have to read the threads about her being unable to go to the Olympics to see that.
If I was going to feel sorry for anyone, it would be for the riders that have performed consistantly better than Zara for longer but who get only 1/10th of the recognition and praise that she does.
serena2005
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for so many people that claim not to like KP you sure do like to talk about her!
birdof1977
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Well she must have some decent amount of ability to be able to ride there.
Maybe she should just be judged for that instead of the fact that she made a bucket load of cash just for getting her baps out LOL.
Good luck to her!!
Maybe she should just be judged for that instead of the fact that she made a bucket load of cash just for getting her baps out LOL.
Good luck to her!!
teddybrowne
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Linda W - really thoughtful post.
Charlie - No Zara doesn't wear polo shirts out clubbing, and I never said all women should wear Burkhas! However, if you don't see he difference between wearing a top which shows cleavage out clubbing, and having your photo taken in the buff for page three, then I'm wasting my key board skills.
I'm not saying that KP shouldn't have a chance, I'm just very aware how public she is about it. I don't join in the chorus of, 'good for Katie, she's so admirable, gosh she really earned that'. The only thing she has earned is a tabloid reputation for being a goby slapper, who having exploited herself for fame and fortune, now wants to morph into someone less grotesque. I don't for the life of me see how she's going to benefit equestrianism, and feel the comparison to ZP is absurd.
As for ZP getting more credit than other riders who have achieved the same - like who? Who has done as well as she has with Toytown, and not been considered for a team?
Charlie - No Zara doesn't wear polo shirts out clubbing, and I never said all women should wear Burkhas! However, if you don't see he difference between wearing a top which shows cleavage out clubbing, and having your photo taken in the buff for page three, then I'm wasting my key board skills.
I'm not saying that KP shouldn't have a chance, I'm just very aware how public she is about it. I don't join in the chorus of, 'good for Katie, she's so admirable, gosh she really earned that'. The only thing she has earned is a tabloid reputation for being a goby slapper, who having exploited herself for fame and fortune, now wants to morph into someone less grotesque. I don't for the life of me see how she's going to benefit equestrianism, and feel the comparison to ZP is absurd.
As for ZP getting more credit than other riders who have achieved the same - like who? Who has done as well as she has with Toytown, and not been considered for a team?
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As for ZP getting more credit than other riders who have achieved the same - like who? Who has done as well as she has with Toytown, and not been considered for a team?
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I'm not talking about consideration for a team, thats totally different.
I am talking about public recognition and praise.
Zara gets so much more public acclaim for her riding achievements, she has had numerous recent awards. The fact she couldn't compete in the Olympics was huge news, whereas Lucy Wiegersma's disappointment was barely mentioned except in local news and horsey publications - in fact more has been made of Zara's inability to go than of the great achievements of the team who are going.
I am not saying Zara is not a very talented rider [though the way she pushed her exhausted horse to the end of the xc at Badders was totally shocking imo], however in my opinion we have far better horsemen and women in this country that often don't get the recognition they deserve.
For the record though, I don't think KP is particularly admirable either. I have no problem with how she has earnt her money, and she is smart to maximise her earning potentially. However she has done it by exposing her body and then her personal life to the world, which isn't something I really look up to. However all power to her, she has made a good life for herself.
As for ZP getting more credit than other riders who have achieved the same - like who? Who has done as well as she has with Toytown, and not been considered for a team?
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I'm not talking about consideration for a team, thats totally different.
I am talking about public recognition and praise.
Zara gets so much more public acclaim for her riding achievements, she has had numerous recent awards. The fact she couldn't compete in the Olympics was huge news, whereas Lucy Wiegersma's disappointment was barely mentioned except in local news and horsey publications - in fact more has been made of Zara's inability to go than of the great achievements of the team who are going.
I am not saying Zara is not a very talented rider [though the way she pushed her exhausted horse to the end of the xc at Badders was totally shocking imo], however in my opinion we have far better horsemen and women in this country that often don't get the recognition they deserve.
For the record though, I don't think KP is particularly admirable either. I have no problem with how she has earnt her money, and she is smart to maximise her earning potentially. However she has done it by exposing her body and then her personal life to the world, which isn't something I really look up to. However all power to her, she has made a good life for herself.
frostie1
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The only thing I can see of any interest for anyone about Katie Price at HOYS is for blokes watching her do sitting trot!
The Virgin Dubble
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Which ever side of the Katie Price divide you are on, I don't think she belongs in the same breath as Zara.
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Very true.
Zara was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, had two parents who were both top level riders, and has had access to the best of everything, trainers, horses etc, from the day she was born.
KP has had none of those advantages.
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Neither had Mary King. But she managed to make it to the top via hard work and talent.
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Indeed.
But you mentioned Zara. Not Mary King...
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Which ever side of the Katie Price divide you are on, I don't think she belongs in the same breath as Zara.
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Very true.
Zara was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, had two parents who were both top level riders, and has had access to the best of everything, trainers, horses etc, from the day she was born.
KP has had none of those advantages.
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Neither had Mary King. But she managed to make it to the top via hard work and talent.
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Indeed.
But you mentioned Zara. Not Mary King...
The Virgin Dubble
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People like you really piss me off Dubble - you have some kind of inverted snobbery.
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How very mature of you.
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No matter what Zara achieves she'll never get the credit, because she's well spoken and has a good background. KP however spends enough on PR, to do very little and get lots of credit. And why? because she's rough as sand paper and plays the part so well!
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I happen to think Zara is incredibly talented. I have not said otherwise.
And I don't particularly like Katie Price, as she always appears to be quite abrupt and humourless imho.
However, I think it's unfair to compare KP unfavourably to Zara, given the vast differences between their equestrian experience.
To ParkRanger:
I hope that answers your query regarding my post.
(of course the 'mature' comment doesn't count for you, as you asked a perfectly reasonable question)
People like you really piss me off Dubble - you have some kind of inverted snobbery.
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How very mature of you.
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No matter what Zara achieves she'll never get the credit, because she's well spoken and has a good background. KP however spends enough on PR, to do very little and get lots of credit. And why? because she's rough as sand paper and plays the part so well!
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I happen to think Zara is incredibly talented. I have not said otherwise.
And I don't particularly like Katie Price, as she always appears to be quite abrupt and humourless imho.
However, I think it's unfair to compare KP unfavourably to Zara, given the vast differences between their equestrian experience.
To ParkRanger:
I hope that answers your query regarding my post.
(of course the 'mature' comment doesn't count for you, as you asked a perfectly reasonable question)
teddybrowne
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Dubble - I'm up front and honest, if you feel that makes me less mature than you that's fine by me. At least I'm mature enough to get my facts straight before making sweeping statements.
At no point did I compare ZP with KP - indeed, my initial post was to point out the huge differences!
You said; "Zara was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, had two parents who were both top level riders, and has had access to the best of everything, trainers, horses etc, from the day she was born..............KP didn't. "
As I have already pointed out, ZP did not have the best horses bought and the best of everything. KP however has bought a schoolmaster and has employed a top trainer, due to which she has managed to wangle a PR stunt at HOYs. ZP on the other hand has produced her own horses to advanced success. - Yet we are all supposed to cheer on the slapper wobbling around on the school master? I don't get it - I have no idea what good KP will bring to equestrianism - it simply smacks of inverted snobbery.
At no point did I compare ZP with KP - indeed, my initial post was to point out the huge differences!
You said; "Zara was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, had two parents who were both top level riders, and has had access to the best of everything, trainers, horses etc, from the day she was born..............KP didn't. "
As I have already pointed out, ZP did not have the best horses bought and the best of everything. KP however has bought a schoolmaster and has employed a top trainer, due to which she has managed to wangle a PR stunt at HOYs. ZP on the other hand has produced her own horses to advanced success. - Yet we are all supposed to cheer on the slapper wobbling around on the school master? I don't get it - I have no idea what good KP will bring to equestrianism - it simply smacks of inverted snobbery.
BenjyBen
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Does it matter how KP made her money? The only reason why everyone knows about it is because of the publicity - would you critise other people who have enough money to go and buy and school master and have lessons with top trainers? I know someone who never worked a day in their life, and can afford to buy good horses and train with top people. Surely that is worse than her making her own money?? And why shouldn't she buy nice horses and have top trainers? Bet half of you would if you had the money.
Sounds like you are all jealous of both KP and ZP to me...
Sounds like you are all jealous of both KP and ZP to me...