Kauto doing dressage

SusieT said:
the horse has clearly had a problem behind according to many of the people who are upset about his move-and yet it was great for him to be kept in a racing routine and racing-one of the toughest sport on horses legs.....
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Yes, he's clearly been wrong when winning all those races and over 2 million in prize money .....
 
Damned if she did and damned if she hadn't taken him on (you all know my view on the subject!)

All I'll say is that performance at Kempton today is not how I want to remember him; he deserved so much better than that so from that respect alone, shame on his owner, he robbed the public of a display to marvel and smile at as we did with Dessie.
 
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A lot of you must be struggling to find time to post on here in between training Gold Cup winning horses, managing retirement homes for Gold Cup winners, being Eventing Olympic hopefuls, in training for Badminton, knowing more about dressage than Carl Hester and a better Coach than Yogi.
I bow down, how on earth do you manage it all?
 
Caledonia said:
Given her remark on twitter (now removed) telling Team Ditcheat to 'get over it' during the day he went to her when the uproar stated, I have little or no sympathy for her.
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What she said that? for real. I did not know that, if this is indeed true then my opinion of her has greatly changed.
What an upstart to say something like that to a team who know more about horses than she ever will in her lifetime.
That has really made me angry has that, I wish you had stated this before as I would not have played quite such the Devil's advocate on her behalf as I have done!
 
Clodagh said:
A lot of you must be struggling to find time to post on here in between training Gold Cup winning horses, managing retirement homes for Gold Cup winners, being Eventing Olympic hopefuls, in training for Badminton, knowing more about dressage than Carl Hester and a better Coach than Yogi.
I bow down, how on earth do you manage it all?
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With ease ;)
 
Maesfen said:
Damned if she did and damned if she hadn't taken him on (you all know my view on the subject!)

All I'll say is that performance at Kempton today is not how I want to remember him; he deserved so much better than that so from that respect alone, shame on his owner, he robbed the public of a display to marvel and smile at as we did with Dessie.
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Good onya Maesfen.
 
Not being a user of Twitter I didn't know such a remark had been posted by LC and then removed!!!. I now feel quite justified in having made some less than thrilled comments about where Kauto currently is stabled. I'm, quite obviously, far too old to understand how someone of tender years can't appreciate that KS isn't just a horse to those who have cared for him over many years and to those who have marvelled at his fantastic career spanning approx 10 years, me being 1 of the latter. I sincerely hope he will EVENTUALLY end up with someone who DOES understand.
 
silu said:
Not being a user of Twitter I didn't know such a remark had been posted by LC and then removed!!!. I now feel quite justified in having made some less than thrilled comments about where Kauto currently is stabled. I'm, quite obviously, far too old to understand how someone of tender years can't appreciate that KS isn't just a horse to those who have cared for him over many years and to those who have marvelled at his fantastic career spanning approx 10 years, me being 1 of the latter. I sincerely hope he will EVENTUALLY end up with someone who DOES understand.
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Well said and I would also say that he is the best National Hunt horse whose whole career in the UK I have had the privilege to watch.
I did see some of Desert Orchid's races at the time but I was a little too young to appreciate it then as I only used to really watch the Grand National and the Derby, and Arc in later years.
I have been properly following all National Hunt racing since the 1993/94 season, and watched a few races before that time.
 
Well I hope team Clive Smith are happy, to see so few people watching him (Kato) parade. What Mr Smith still doesn't realise that it's the NH fans that love him and that he's never ever going to make a Dressage horse, he's a NH horse pure and simple.
 
I wonder how posterity will judge Kauto Stars retirement years, after that quote from LC it dosnt bode well, PN will have seen that but still contacted her to wish her well. Seeing Kauto today parading it was like the light had gone out and those that were close to him must be feeling very sad.

What non racing fans will never understand is this horse has written history and has bought so many into racing, he is loved and appreciated for what he is, a living legend.
 
Echo Bravo said:
Well I hope team Clive Smith are happy, to see so few people watching him (Kato) parade. What Mr Smith still doesn't realise that it's the NH fans that love him and that he's never ever going to make a Dressage horse, he's a NH horse pure and simple.
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Yet so few turned up to see him parade??
 
What did others think of John Francombe's comments while watching Kauto. I got the distinct impression he isn't a big fan of KS going to do dressage, unless I was just interpreting it that way.
 
Fantasy_World said:
True National Hunt fans will turn up to watch the racing and to see the horses in any weather :) After all most of the big meetings take place in winter
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What I and they meant was that a lot of people had stayed in the stands rather walked to the parade ring. They'd then see him on the course rather than in the parade ring.


Fantasy_World said:
Did you expect him to say anything different?
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He didn't have to say anything at all by text if he had other opinions.


But that's all I'm saying as I'm in the 'it's the owner's decision and give LC a chance' school of thought....
 
marychristmas said:
It wouldnt have mattered what he looked like some of you would always have found fault with him, poor girl and her grooms were on a hiding to nothing.
If he was sharp, she wouldnt be managing him or handling him properly
He's to quiet, well he must be sedated.
He's not right behind" what's she done to him" how do you know he's not done something hooning around in the field ?
Listen to the lot of you, fgs If you were a group on a livery yard going on like this about someone there would be a collective term for you, i'll decline to say as i dont want barred.
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^^^^^This totally!^^^^^^
 
Eldest son was at Kempton, and said it was a privildge to see Kauto parading (and he is a cynacle ex 'Lad'. He puts the poor turn-out around the parade ring down to the weather, and of course the horse was not racing, therefore no expectations on his handsome shoulders.......he did think it a shame that he had those heavy dressage bandages on his lovely well raced legs, and the two leading him up were a bit dull......(was one of them Laura C?)
Kauto doing dressage - maybe at the scale that Neptune was (not too much pressure) Grand Prix St Georges (I don't think so......)
Can we talk about how well Sam W-C and Long Run did today now, life moves on, lets celebrate what could be / is the new star of the future - what 3 Grade Ones (2 KG's and one Gold Cup) and only 7 years old.......????? That is tomorrows story -
 
Christmas Treepot said:
What I and they meant was that a lot of people had stayed in the stands rather walked to the parade ring. They'd then see him on the course rather than in the parade ring.




He didn't have to say anything at all by text if he had other opinions.


But that's all I'm saying as I'm in the 'it's the owner's decision and give LC a chance' school of thought....
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If I had been there I would have walked over to see him, but then again I am a true racing fan and not a once a year type :)

As for Nicholls I am most sure he did it to be polite or to try and save grace, though why he should feel the need to is anyone's guess as he has done nothing wrong in all of this!
 
I saw him in the flesh at the beginning of his career & I noticed how badly he moved in front, practically crossing his fetlocks; I often wondered whether this was why he made last fence errors as he was tiring. You don't often see head ons on TV paddock coverage, but I noticed his fetlocks were very close in the parade ring yesterday.
Why was he wearing those bandages? Is he unsound or were they to reinforce to the racing public his new dressage role?
 
Honeylight said:
I saw him in the flesh at the beginning of his career & I noticed how badly he moved in front, practically crossing his fetlocks; I often wondered whether this was why he made last fence errors as he was tiring. You don't often see head ons on TV paddock coverage, but I noticed his fetlocks were very close in the parade ring yesterday.
Why was he wearing those bandages? Is he unsound or were they to reinforce to the racing public his new dressage role?
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Interesting . . . do you mean like "plaiting" ?

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Is "plaiting" the proper term? I haven't been connected to horses since my late teens when I had a pony. The sort of opposite of "dishing" any way. He is also (or was 6 years ago) a rather narrow horse.
 
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