Kauto doing dressage

The publicity machine for Messrs Collett is working well I see from the headline news on H&H. I wonder how many dressage riders will appreciate them being considered not good enough to deal with a non race fit nearly 13 yo!? LC is surprised at the amount of interest in KS's future. That just goes to show she isn't really that interested in racing other than perhaps the more social side. Having been to The King George meeting for the last 51 years I am not surprised in the slightest at the concern as to a super star racehorse's future and rightly so.
 
Xmas Beastie said:
Another person who is saddened to still see people abusing each other over this. Your opinion is your opinion, the only person who has to live with it is you.

Come on folks its Xmas eve lets bury this 'one-up-manship' and let the subject rest, its not as if arguing on here about what he should and shouldnt be doing is going to matter anyway so why attack each other over it :)

Merry Christmas Everyone :)
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Hear hear, there are some very bigoted, nasty opinionated people on this thread.
 
silu said:
The publicity machine for Messrs Collett is working well I see from the headline news on H&H. I wonder how many dressage riders will appreciate them being considered not good enough to deal with a non race fit nearly 13 yo!? LC is surprised at the amount of interest in KS's future. That just goes to show she isn't really that interested in racing other than perhaps the more social side. Having been to The King George meeting for the last 51 years I am not surprised in the slightest at the concern as to a super star racehorse's future and rightly so.
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What a nasty,ill informed and lazy post. Can't even get LC's actual discipline correct. Bah humbug!
 
Well, I think racing has shown exactly how they feel about the decision that was made to move him. He also didn't look right behind. :(
 
amage said:
Did you ever consider that the horse being unsound is the reason Nicholls wanted him kept at Ditcheat for his retirement where they know the small details that keep him sound & happy
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He was in full training until recently - so he has to have been pretty damn sound. Mind you, he's not been let down in the interim, has he, so it's bound to have been hard work for him :(

I agree, that's one of the MANY reasons he should have stayed at Ditcheat.
 
minesadouble said:
Well it's not rocket science deducing whether a gelding has been sedated!!! Or was the rug obscuring the evidence?
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He would have worn the rug regardless as it listed all of his KG wins. Personally I have never seen him so chilled and docile in the paddock let alone walking down the track so I suspect some form of calm inducing added extra is involved.
 
I agree I thought he looked quiet, in fact he looked a little like he did before the delayed King George held in January 2011 as he was quiet and not right behind that day when he was beaten.
Sorry but he does not look the same horse to me and did you notice how Smith took a long hard look behind the horse too?
 
christine48 said:
Could it not just be that he has been let down and isn't as fit now? Or god forbid he is just more chilled out with his new regime.
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He's not been let down tho has he? He's been worked there every day - and he shouldn't have looked wrong behind if he was more chilled.

He's a racehorse parading at a racecourse. He's not a horse having gone from one rider to another.
 
I did have a little bet with myself that KS would be looking very quiet and so it proved...hmmm, no testing needed. Not exactly one of the many great Dessie moments was it? Agree with others that he has dramatically lost his great hind action but he had nice clean bandages on!
 
Caledonia said:
He's not been let down tho has he? He's been worked there every day - and he shouldn't have looked wrong behind if he was more chilled.

He's a racehorse parading at a racecourse. He's not a horse having gone from one rider to another.
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Well he's not going to be as fit as when he was racing is he!! He's doing a bit of hacking and flat work.
 
It wouldnt have mattered what he looked like some of you would always have found fault with him, poor girl and her grooms were on a hiding to nothing.
If he was sharp, she wouldnt be managing him or handling him properly
He's to quiet, well he must be sedated.
He's not right behind" what's she done to him" how do you know he's not done something hooning around in the field ?
Listen to the lot of you, fgs If you were a group on a livery yard going on like this about someone there would be a collective term for you, i'll decline to say as i dont want barred.
 
Does it matter whether he was sedated or not? I don't see why some of you have it in for Laura Collett. She has been asked to do a job for the owner end of. You may not like it but at the end of the day it has NOTHING to do with any of us.
Yogi works extensively with both race horses and eventers ( he mayhaveworked with KS - I don't know), sopresumably he feels that she is up to the job.
 
EKW said:
He would have worn the rug regardless as it listed all of his KG wins. Personally I have never seen him so chilled and docile in the paddock let alone walking down the track so I suspect some form of calm inducing added extra is involved.
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I wasn't suggesting that's why he wore the rug, obviously he would have been wearing it regardless of who paraded him. Was a genuine question as to whether anyone had spotted a 'swinging willy' as it were ;)

I have to say that before some of Kauto Star's races I've wondered whether he was quite right behind so it's not a huge surprise that people are picking up on it now.

I have to say that I feel for Laura Collett in all of this, I'm sure she had no idea that she would meet with such a negative backlash when she took the horse on.
 
marychristmas said:
It wouldnt have mattered what he looked like some of you would always have found fault with him, poor girl and her grooms were on a hiding to nothing.
If he was sharp, she wouldnt be managing him or handling him properly
He's to quiet, well he must be sedated.
He's not right behind" what's she done to him" how do you know he's not done something hooning around in the field ?
Listen to the lot of you, fgs If you were a group on a livery yard going on like this about someone there would be a collective term for you, i'll decline to say as i dont want barred.
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Well said!!
 
marychristmas said:
It wouldnt have mattered what he looked like some of you would always have found fault with him, poor girl and her grooms were on a hiding to nothing.
If he was sharp, she wouldnt be managing him or handling him properly
He's to quiet, well he must be sedated.
He's not right behind" what's she done to him" how do you know he's not done something hooning around in the field ?
Listen to the lot of you, fgs If you were a group on a livery yard going on like this about someone there would be a collective term for you, i'll decline to say as i dont want barred.
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Did you watch him? Have you watched him often enough to know if he's different or not? I have ...

The only plus was that CS got no airtime at all.
 
christine48 said:
Well said!!
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For the record I have stated on here before and elsewhere that he has not looked right behind before racing and quiet too, so I am not saying just because he has gone to where he has.
I am saying it because the horse clearly has a problem behind, so why put him through the rigors of being retrained for dressage when his whole action behind will not be suited by it.
He has done enough, he does not owe anybody anything, least of all Smith who also happened to look behind too.
Would you have slated him too if he had mentioned that the horse didn't look right tracking up?
 
marychristmas said:
It wouldnt have mattered what he looked like some of you would always have found fault with him, poor girl and her grooms were on a hiding to nothing.
If he was sharp, she wouldnt be managing him or handling him properly
He's to quiet, well he must be sedated.
He's not right behind" what's she done to him" how do you know he's not done something hooning around in the field ?
Listen to the lot of you, fgs If you were a group on a livery yard going on like this about someone there would be a collective term for you, i'll decline to say as i dont want barred.
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christine48 said:
Does it matter whether he was sedated or not? I don't see why some of you have it in for Laura Collett. She has been asked to do a job for the owner end of. You may not like it but at the end of the day it has NOTHING to do with any of us.
Yogi works extensively with both race horses and eventers ( he mayhaveworked with KS - I don't know), sopresumably he feels that she is up to the job.
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Well said both and good luck to Laura Collett. I really hope he does well just to put some of the nasty comments on here to shame.
 
minesadouble said:
I have to say that I feel for Laura Collett in all of this, I'm sure she had no idea that she would meet with such a negative backlash when she took the horse on.
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Given her remark on twitter (now removed) telling Team Ditcheat to 'get over it' during the day he went to her when the uproar stated, I have little or no sympathy for her.
 
the horse has clearly had a problem behind according to many of the people who are upset about his move-and yet it was great for him to be kept in a racing routine and racing-one of the toughest sport on horses legs.....
 
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