Kauto

I'm confused as she can't possibly ride like that normally, surely? I agree the horse may have had "something" to calm him, maybe he can't handle the indoor arena (lights?). I also think he's been rushed a bit, and it was laughable that the write up on OP's link said he would start to compete next year but wouldn't be an Olympic prospect! When someone learns to swim, who thinks they will actually be on the Olympic team in no time!
 
Totally disgusted with this 'rider'The horse was not happy at all.She should have dismounted and led him out.Typical snotty rider.This wonderful horse deserves better than this.
 
Absolutely awful to watch, she should be ashamed of herself. Poor horse, looked rushed into preparation and he was under the influence of something! Love the bit in her interview where she says something along the lines of "the most important thing is the horse is happy and settled".
 
I'm confused - is KS out competing and these are just exhibition displays or is he still to come out? It seems a long time since he started his 'dressage career' and I've missed seeing photos of him competing.
 
Archangel said:
I'm confused - is KS out competing and these are just exhibition displays or is he still to come out? It seems a long time since he started his 'dressage career' and I've missed seeing photos of him competing.
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Neptune Collenges has already been out and done some, hasn't he, so you have a point there. I didn't have a problem with him going there for reschooling but I don't know that that exhibition did racehorses any favours.
 
"we thought he might get a bit lit up in there so we gave him a lot of work" - Read as "we sedated him to keep some level of control as we know he isn`t ready but thought we`d push him too far anyway for the publicity" ...

"And its the crowds being up high and so close", yes because in racing there is no noise, crowds or grandstands **rolls eyes**

"Most horses have been doing this for 8 - 10 years and they build up gradually to an arena like that" ... So why put him through this at such at early point in his training then ??

"The main thing is that the horse is happy and relaxed" ... wow really? reeeeeaaallly? are we looking at the same horse?

"If one day he goes to a competition, he goes to a competition, there`ll be no pressure from our side anyway it about having a good time" ... you call THAT no pressure and having a good time ... wow, stunned!!!


I agree with others she should have ridden him out of the arena with an explanation that he just wasn`t ready ... all the kicking, and jabbing and hand waving to get her whip to make contact with him just saddens me so much ... No need :(
 
I thought it was awful- a jockey is limited to the number of times he is allowed to hit the horse, and if they don't adhere to the rules are cautioned or face a ban... LC should be severely cautioned for her riding. Poor Kauto looked so unhappy, I bet he envies his old adversary Denman retiring to go team chasing.
 
stormox said:
I thought it was awful- a jockey is limited to the number of times he is allowed to hit the horse, and if they don't adhere to the rules are cautioned or face a ban... LC should be severely cautioned for her riding. Poor Kauto looked so unhappy, I bet he envies his old adversary Denman retiring to go team chasing.
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Weeeeell. I think having that video out there is actually going to do more damage. Not as slick/ legally aggressive a publicity machine as Ben Mahers.
If I were her I would issue a public apology/ explanation/ regret I did not retire sooner. Learning from the aforementioned.
 
I had to stop watching. I've never seen such a display of bad riding in front of an audience. I've not even seen that amount of jabbing, kicking, whip waving in a beginners lesson at a riding school. It looked like she was asking him to do stuff he'd never done before and without having a clue herself what she wanted. Unbelievable. She would have been much better off putting her hand up and leaving the arena rather than subjecting him to that abuse. Poor Kauto.
 
wow, my novicey loaner rides better than that on a pony that isn't easy to ride. The constant jabbing and whipping was awful and I feel terribly sorry for the poor horse who should have been retired to do riding club activities. I hope LC and the owners are ashamed.
 
chrisritch said:
Turn him away and I bet he would mellow out untold amounts. He has gone from the pressure of racing to a short break and now she says she is taking it easy with him but I bet there is plenty of pressure so that all the hype when this first happened doesn't blow up in their face
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The owner is known to be a pushy type with absolutely no empathy for his horse at all otherwise he would have left him where he belonged and always flourished, back at PN's.

Greed, pure greed and he couldn't have picked a worse rider for him.
 
My God; that was bloody awful.

What the heck was she trying to achieve there? Poor horse didn't know whether he was coming or going.

Something you'd expect to see at PC.
 
Just watched the video, it's even worse than I imagined it would be. I was one of the people who thought he should stay at Paul Nicholls and was very much against kauto moving home to do dressage and I hate seeing the chaser of a lifetime reduced to giving displays like this. For what ?
 
I read that he was due a second performance, did that happen?

Could not believe the riding. If that was Keith Lemon on a horse for a charity fundraiser it would 1) have got a laugh 2) got him condemned for abusing a horse as a form of entertainment. What's the difference here? Her riding was appauling and she shouldn't have put Kauto through that. As it is a top rider does it and people are actually defending her!!!
 
I was there on Tuesday night and it was even worse to witness first hand, whatever the reasons for the horse shutting down like that, it was horrible to witness :(
 
Really didn't expect it to be this bad when I first read about it. Definitely agree with the comments that it looks like they have given him something in the hope of calming him a little which has back fired. Think the rider has just totally panicked and lost all common sense probably due to the pressure of the whole situation. I don't know why anybody else involved didn't suggest they called it a day as soon as it became apparent that the horse was totally shut down and that the riders response was to try and 'drive' him through it. So sad to see, absolutely loved Kauto Star when he was racing. I think he has an injury which means he cannot go into a career which involves jumping which is shame since he obviously loves it
 
Just awful!!

I also thought the last rider in the freestyle Daniella H(something or other) on a horse I think was called somethinorother..NOP. was rather rough with her hands outside of the arena and then througout her test, completing it with an almighty haul to hault. I also thought the horse was seriouly overbent throughout.


Out of interest why did Kauto go into dressage (with an event rider), why not hunting or team chasing or showjumping or low level eventing etc?

Especially as over the last coupe of years it has only euslted in a couple of disappointing displays?
 
I think what people forget is that while yes he has performed infront of crowds numbering tens of thousands you only feel the real pressure of the people walking round the paddock. An easy jaunt where you play follow my leader. An on course parade is lead down and then canteres back - again follow my leader straight line stuff. But by this point you are on the course. Not close enough for the crowds to be an issue. When racing it's like being out in the wilderness! You get the home straight - a staight line and depending on which course you are at how many jumps are in front of you to keep you going.

Olympia is hugely different. People everywhere crowding you into a box which you are in all by yourself. The lighting will be different, the atmophere different, the heat, the performance and the riders nerves will be different.
 
Why go to Olympia for his first outing anyway? Why not go to a bit of low-level stuff and introduce crowds gradually? Or even do a few RtoR shows first? But even so, I don't think he looked bothered by the crowds, he looked like he wasn't interested in anything, especially dressage.
 
EKW said:
I think what people forget is that while yes he has performed infront of crowds numbering tens of thousands you only feel the real pressure of the people walking round the paddock. An easy jaunt where you play follow my leader. An on course parade is lead down and then canteres back - again follow my leader straight line stuff. But by this point you are on the course. Not close enough for the crowds to be an issue. When racing it's like being out in the wilderness! You get the home straight - a staight line and depending on which course you are at how many jumps are in front of you to keep you going.

Olympia is hugely different. People everywhere crowding you into a box which you are in all by yourself. The lighting will be different, the atmophere different, the heat, the performance and the riders nerves will be different.
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That's true enough, but this 'display' was truly awful. It's bad enough to watch as a rider, as a non rider, or possibly a beginner it's no sort of example to be setting. You would have hoped that LC would have had enough sense to realise it was all going wrong and to do what lots of grass roots riders would have done and stopped for the sake of the horse. If she's not got the guts to do that then I think she needs to take a long hard think about whether she is prepared to carry on with Kauto before her reputation is dragged through the mud any further. And I think his owner, should also take a step back and put the horse's welfare before his own grand ideas - whatever they may be.

Personally, based on this performance, I don't think he is cut out for this type of exhibition career, especially if he has to be drugged to do them.
 
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