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[The Xmas Furry]

My livery contracts states that the owner agrees that I will call the vet if I believe the horse needs treatment. 9 times out of 10, I call the owner first to discuss, but I have and will always make getting the horse seen my priority.
Although the above relates mostly to emergencies, I have in the past lost a livery that I adored, because I told his owner that she needed to get him investigated, or leave my yard. She chose to leave, and her dear horse took a bit of my heart with him. If I could find him, I'd have him back in a heartbeat to retire

You are one of the responsible yard owners out there who think to include welfare and calling a vet when under your care. I, like you and others, used to have this in my standard contract.

As the OP has got the hump and run, I'd think she might be one who doesn't have that contract provision....

 

[Goldenstar]

The Animal Welfare Act 2006 says in para 3(3) the person who owns the animal is the person responsible for its welfare. Unless you know of legislation stating otherwise all you are telling us on this post is urban myths. Mea Culpa, I had forgotton what people are like on this forum. Goodbye

Despite OP having a flounce ,she can be held responsible for poor care of horses that where she is receiving money from the owner .
She cant just say not my horse even if the owner has stopped paying her .
The LOer could also be held to have some culpability even if they let the land to another person
The law is there to make sure as much as is possible that those owning and providing services don’t into a pass the parcel with the responsibility for an animals welfare .
I would counsel OP to make sure she has a record texts,emails notes of conservations and events dated and make as soon as possible after they take place .
She needs I think sadly for the horse to serve notice on the owner and tell them to shape up get the vet or remove the horse .
She needs to do this in writing .
If the horse has been abandoned she need to post a notice and follow the correct procedures which she should research first .
Bad situations like this are a cost of doing business but a rare one .

OP does not give the full details but depending on the circumstances she could do a lot worse than approaching the WHW the BHS or even the RSPCA for advice.

 

[Sossigpoker]

Imagine being so spineless that you continue to watch a horse in a lot of pain and do nothing about it.
Shame on you OP!!

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

You have a duty of care you need to exercise it .

This basically

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

Imagine being so spineless that you continue to watch a horse in a lot of pain and do nothing about it.
Shame on you OP!!

This is unnecessary and not helpful it's not always that straightforward I have dealt with liveries they are not always that easy or nice

 

[Rowreach]

The OP hasn't been back on since her last post.

 

[AmyMay]

Imagine being so spineless that you continue to watch a horse in a lot of pain and do nothing about it.
Shame on you OP!!

That’s really nasty and completely unnecessary.

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

The OP hasn't been back on since her last post.

Not surprising really, didn't want to know that they have a duty of care to consider and then insulted the people trying to inform them. Oh well hope the horse gets the help regardless of what the OP does.

 

[Red-1]

If OP is that way out, I suspect she can continue living content in her world as, IMO, the RSPCA (for some reason seen as the lead in these things) rarely do anything about all but the very worst of neglect.

I'm talking no food and water situations, dead bodies littering the place type bad before they intervene.

I have tried to report several things. One particularly bad situation, the horse died despite repeated calling. Bizarrely, each time I made a complaint, I was told they had no record of my previous complaint. This was despite emails to the contrary!

 

[Tiddlypom]

This is all rather odd as, being somewhat local to the OP, I remember her attempts to get the authorities involved with the long term appalling neglect of some brood mares by a nationally known figure in the horse breeding sector.

She does know how to do things, so I'm not really sure why she felt she needed to ask for advice on here as to what to do when a livery on her own premises is being neglected. And to then huff off when the advice is apparently not helpful to her .

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

This is all rather odd as, being somewhat local to the OP, I remember her attempts to get the authorities involved with the long term appalling neglect of some brood mares by a nationally known figure in the horse breeding sector.

She does know how to do things, so I'm not really sure why she felt she needed to ask for advice on here as to what to do when a livery on her own premises is being neglected. And to then huff off when the advice is apparently not helpful to her .

Perhaps the livery is being particularly difficult and she feels worried about the confrontation, not everyone is always nice about these things and it's hard when you feel a bit helpless with it all.

As said above the likes of animal welfare organisations just don't step in when it's this kind of thing so people feel they have to tackle it alone.

 

[Melody Grey]

OP, if you are still reading, maybe try to find out the reason for owner not wanting to the vet? It could be that they are hard up (as many are currently). Obviously not acceptable to leave to the horse without treatment, but an understanding ear might help to galvanise action- they might realise that they’ve made a bad judgement call or ask for help.

Could of course be a million other reasons. Just a thought.