Leasing of horse with kissing spines

I would not lease or buy that horse with a view to jumping 1.25m classes. It has serious medical issues which will be exacerbated by jumping him. The horses owner should be ashamed of their actions trying to make money from their animal who has serious issues. I presume they would give him pain killers when he's to be jumped. I think it's a disgrace.
 
QueenT said:
What are you thinking, specifically? It’s clinically sound now, and in full work, but I don’t like the risk of moving the horse around
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Has the horse had surgery? Or rehabilitation for it?

Some horses do come sound after either of the above but generally they are not able to cope with the workload they were before.

A horse is not sound if it has kissing spines. Just because it can trot without hobbling does not make it sound.
And then there is the hocks…..

You would be leasing or buying a vet bill
 
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JBM said:
Just because horse is sound doesn’t mean he isn’t in pain. horses can hide it well, you know he has kissing spine it would be a miracle if he was pain free
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Depends how KS was diagnosed.

MANY horses including high level competition horse have KS on X-rays but are sound and successful.

AFAIK a diagnosis of active pain causing KS should show on X-rays and show an improvement when nerve block affected area.

X-rays alone are not a diagnosis.
 
Fieldlife said:
Depends how KS was diagnosed.

MANY horses including high level competition horse have KS on X-rays but are sound and successful.

AFAIK a diagnosis of active pain causing KS should show on X-rays and show an improvement when nerve block affected area.

X-rays alone are not a diagnosis.
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I mean I think it depends there are many horses at high level competition with kissing spine yeah but I don’t know if we can say they’re not in pain. People are getting better at understanding pain signals in horses and a lot of horses at high level are labelled as dramatic or excited. Could just be pain 🤷🏻‍♀️ personally I would take a horse with kissing spine as a horse with an injury
 
Fieldlife said:
Depends how KS was diagnosed.

MANY horses including high level competition horse have KS on X-rays but are sound and successful.

AFAIK a diagnosis of active pain causing KS should show on X-rays and show an improvement when nerve block affected area.

X-rays alone are not a diagnosis.
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I do and don't agree with you. Yes it's possible for kissing spines not to be causing any apparent pain. But x rays should show whether the bone impingement is active or old and settled, and any activity causing current damage to the spine has to be a welfare issue.
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conniegirl said:
Typical lease fee for a competition horse is 10% of the horses value per year. So in this case that is £4500 a year maximum (probably less due to the KS reducing its value). Thats £375 a month, not £1500!!!

Don’t touch with a barge polw
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I'm guessing the poster is in the US, no idea whether similar %s apply there but I know with the exchange rate their prices seem especially high to us at the moment (not that that affects a %!).
 
Here’s a nice horse competing to 1.10 for 15k
 

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conniegirl said:
Typical lease fee for a competition horse is 10% of the horses value per year. So in this case that is £4500 a year maximum (probably less due to the KS reducing its value). Thats £375 a month, not £1500!!!

Don’t touch with a barge polw
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10-30% depending on level
 
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