Linda Parelli teaching how to hit with the snap

she infuriates me!!! what a thing to teach someone and what a thing to teach a horse that walking side by side with his owner comfortbly sharing space is bad?!!!!!totally beyond me

that poor horse looked so terrified infact the exact way Marley looks when you try and put things on his face.....let me tell you hed have shown her doing that does NOT make you safe :p daft cow!!!

Parelli.....how to confuse your horse and deeply disturb them....Headshy'ness' 100% guaranteed....if horse does not become headshy $1 back from your extortionate payout to our wonderful 'cult' :p
 
stressedmum said:
Oh god i couldnt watch it to the end, everything she did was aggressive. Poor poor pony getting hit in the face like that, what the hell was that teaching! I do admit to using join up at the moment with my feral ill-treated mare, but thats more so to gain her trust, i dont know jot about parelli apart from you dont use a bit and you clonk your horse on the head a lot lol!
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I love doing join up, there is no hitting/yanking or pulling about whatsoever, Monty will always be the best natural horseman.
 
More Linda twaddle. Let the horse walk a little further behind next time Linda....it will have a much bigger run up when it decides to flatten you. Safe....I dont think so....one day one of them is going to get you.
 
That is so sad.

What a terrible way to treat a sweet natured little horse who just wants to walk next to his owner on a loose rein without a negative thought on 'the right hand side of his brain'. If that is bad manners its no wonder they all get turned into zombies.
 
Aah yes, that's the natural, trustworthy behaviour of a leader. Definitely not the abusive, aggressive behaviour of a predator. I can see how that really gains the trust and respect of your horse.

In fact, isn't that the vision of a 'natural' leader to a horse. A mad woman on the end of a rope brandishing an orange stick and clonking it round the face with a metal clip.

I seriously don't get it and couldn't watch beyond the clonking of the fence. Enough for me.
 
Horrible horrible horrible woman. If she ever came anywhere near me or my horses I may just be compelled to beat her round the head with a large metal clip......makes my blood boil :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
I'm sorry, I had to laugh at the poor girl as said mad woman with an orange stick and leather chaps dragged her by her arm backward and forward.

I think she nearly hit the deck at one point.
 
toffeesmarty said:
That is so sad.

What a terrible way to treat a sweet natured little horse who just wants to walk next to his owner on a loose rein without a negative thought on 'the right hand side of his brain'. If that is bad manners its no wonder they all get turned into zombies.
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I for one love my horses to walk quietly next to me , not a mile behind, for one, you can't see whats its doing, if it panicks its going to run straight through you.
 
Gggrrrr makes me see red - bloody parelli crap!

The people who bump up the bank balance of these so called 'horse people' are the ones to blame i'm afraid. Taking nothing away from the fact that Linda is a raving looney and cruel to boot, if people didn't buy the DVD's and join the stupid 'cult' they may dissappear for good.

I have had horses for donkeys years, nearly all youngsters and a few older 'ruined' horses and never had i had to resort to these sort of shocking measures to get them to do anything - let alone the basic task of leading! They all load. travel, lead and compete in the correct manner - why? Not because i pay a fortune to Parelli but because i use my own intuition and knowledge from years of watching, ADORING and working with horses. A couple of quid and an afternoon with this 'crazy' won't buy people that, once people start to see through this smokescreen that is earning the parelli's a forture and deal with the fact that maybe, just maybe they are scared/not capable/over horsed the horse world will be a lot happier place to exist - especially for the poor horses that have Parelli inflicted on them - don't forget they probably only react the way they do beacuse of someones interataction with them in the first place.

Right i'm going off to hide before i get gunned down or chased with a carrot stick...
 
admit id never heard of Parelli till i came on HHO, having been out of horsey type stuff for a good 10 years, but having watched that i have to say that I'M confused at exactly what she was trying to achieve and im human (except before 9am :p)

was she trying to say that horse should not be anywhere near the handler when its being led and to achieve this you flap your arms to make it keep its distance? and then do wavy rope thing to make the snap hit under the chin when it won't back up? im not even venturing into 'left brain/right brain' territory

i know you dont want a horse/pony barging you or pulling ahead when ur walking it in hand but from my uninformed and unknowledgeable mind arent you just giving it a good run up when it finally gets pissed off at being 'funky chickened' by keeping it that 'safe' distance?

Even i with my limited knowledge can walk my sisters horse quietly in hand, with the use of voice and if needed, elbow/body, if he gets a bit bargey.

the horse just looked confused toward the end of the vid with the owner flapping the rope, and even more so when LP took over. Even at the start i wanted the fence post to unstick itself and whack her in the shins :p
 
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Having watched it the whole way through I think I get it. Get too far away and the expensive cheesewire-type-headcollar on that obviously naughty and dangerous horse gets yanked. Get too close and the expensive clip smacks him in the face.

I get it now, makes perfect sense doesn't it?

^^This was meant in tongue-in-cheek by the way. Bring on the sarcasm mark. :p
 
Just sat and watched a bit more of it and omg :eek: what is she doing? If i waved a rope in my horses face he would back away too. At no point what so ever is that poor animal given any reassurance. Such a good horse to not turn round and kick her!! Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Annoys me so much!!!!!!!!

Much prefer Monty Roberts :)
 
What a moron! The poor sod doesn't have a clue what they're after, and even if it was effective, violent and painful tactics to train a horse to lead nicely is not the way to go.

And the girl is just as bad for going along with it, if that were my horse I'd've told her where to shove it. Ugh!
 
OMG :eek::eek: And to think that some years ago when I was struggling with my daughters big horse in hand I thought of doing some of that:( I had no idea it was that bad and had only heard good stuff.... Luckily for me some people on here persauded my daughter that it was not the way to go:cool::cool: Since then obviously I have seen the light:D:D I have to say he would have killed me if I or anyone else had tried that with him. Why on earth would anyone want to treat their horse like that:confused: So mean and angry and cruel.

I did eventually learn to lead him - in a chifney:D We came to an understanding and he never ever hurt me and I learned to be more confident without getting cross with him. Incidentally the chifney never had to be "used" it was just that he knew and I knew it was there. Surely it is unnecessary to hit a horse constantly round the face like that - and what was he actually doing wrong? If our big lad had been like that grey I would never even have thought of being wary of him. So very sad. Am waiting for all the disciples to come on and justify this travesty.
 
What an idiot! Couldn't bring myself to watch it all the way through. What is she trying to achieve exactly? What's with the chicken dance at the beginning? Sorry, thats what sprung to mind! The woman is a total waste of space as far as I'm concerned. Poor horse, talk about confusing the poor thing! Don't like Parelli at all. They really have some weird ideas.
 
Yes I have watched the video and most of you seem to be missing the point.

Are you happy to lead a horse that pulls, jogs, walks in front of you or drags you every where? What is your ' remedy' for curing this habit or do you just accept it and post on here, " Help, my horse drags me everywhere, what can I do?"

The point of the video is to teach the horse personal space. ie not to walk in front of or over it's handler. It does not mean that it will never want to walk by your side because of this. This is just a lesson. If the horse is clever it will pick it up very quickly and avoid the bumping of the rope clip or flick with the whip and learn not to tread all over you.

Agreed that this method of training is definitely not for every one ( or in the case of this forum, nobody!) However please tell me what is the best way to train a pushy horse not to barge into you or drag you to and from the filed?
 
TicTac said:
Yes I have watched the video and most of you seem to be missing the point.

Are you happy to lead a horse that pulls, jogs, walks in front of you or drags you every where? What is your ' remedy' for curing this habit or do you just accept it and post on here, " Help, my horse drags me everywhere, what can I do?"

The point of the video is to teach the horse personal space. ie not to walk in front of or over it's handler. It does not mean that it will never want to walk by your side because of this. This is just a lesson. If the horse is clever it will pick it up very quickly and avoid the bumping of the rope clip or flick with the whip and learn not to tread all over you.

Agreed that this method of training is definitely not for every one ( or in the case of this forum, nobody!) However please tell me what is the best way to train a pushy horse not to barge into you or drag you to and from the filed?
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There are ways and ways to do things. I have used 'Parelli' methods with some seriously bargy horses, but none of them needed hitting in the face with a piece of metal. They learnt to back up and back away and to come to me without me needing (or wanting) to cause them harm or pain. Having been someone who was interested in the Parelli way (being new back into horses then), I have become totally disenchanted with the whole lot of them and disengaged accordingly.
 
TicTac said:
Yes I have watched the video and most of you seem to be missing the point.

Are you happy to lead a horse that pulls, jogs, walks in front of you or drags you every where? What is your ' remedy' for curing this habit or do you just accept it and post on here, " Help, my horse drags me everywhere, what can I do?"

The point of the video is to teach the horse personal space. ie not to walk in front of or over it's handler. It does not mean that it will never want to walk by your side because of this. This is just a lesson. If the horse is clever it will pick it up very quickly and avoid the bumping of the rope clip or flick with the whip and learn not to tread all over you.

Agreed that this method of training is definitely not for every one ( or in the case of this forum, nobody!) However please tell me what is the best way to train a pushy horse not to barge into you or drag you to and from the filed?
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the horse was doing fine, it does not take alot to get a horse such as that to lead nicely,without all this rope business and flicking everywhere- the woman is crap, and so is the whole Parelli thing- and to think so many people arelearning this nonsense,what is wrong with traditional breaking in and schooling on?
 
TicTac said:
Yes I have watched the video and most of you seem to be missing the point.

Are you happy to lead a horse that pulls, jogs, walks in front of you or drags you every where? What is your ' remedy' for curing this habit or do you just accept it and post on here, " Help, my horse drags me everywhere, what can I do?"

The point of the video is to teach the horse personal space. ie not to walk in front of or over it's handler. It does not mean that it will never want to walk by your side because of this. This is just a lesson. If the horse is clever it will pick it up very quickly and avoid the bumping of the rope clip or flick with the whip and learn not to tread all over you.

Agreed that this method of training is definitely not for every one ( or in the case of this forum, nobody!) However please tell me what is the best way to train a pushy horse not to barge into you or drag you to and from the filed?
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Well as I said in my post above I used a chifney - which I never had to pull on - he knew when it was in and when it wasn't and behaved beautifully. I also learned to just be more confident. This was a horse who used to rear and barge and pull people to and from the field. He just knew he had some sort of bit in his mouth and respected it. He was 16.2 and I am well under 5 foot and a big woose. I know not everyone approves of them but I truely believe it was kinder than what I have just witnessed and I genuinely never yanked or pulled on it. He did not need any "lessons" that went on for ages and I believe he was perfectly comfortable.

If it is acceptable to teach a horse to lead in the way LP does - over a prolonged period of minutes, is it also ok to repeatedly beat a horse who refuses a jump or a dressage movement over a similar time? Because that is what is happening in my view. A short sharp lesson is fine but this bullying???
 
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