Dobiegirl
Well-Known Member
Hope you get to have your say in court Sam and its one more nail in the coffin for this evil woman, I will be with you in spirit and hoping and praying you and all those poor dogs and owners get justice.
Hi all.
The trial starts on 18th November & will end on 6th December. There are 67 witnesses but not all of them will be used. Most statements will just be read out by someone in court.
Even I might not be called, i'll be well gutted if i'm not called but on a plus note, anyone who is not a witness can go watch the trial, and then can be there everyday if they want! I'd like to have my say in court but i'd also like to watch the evil one squirm! I'll have my say at the end of all this anyway (watch this space)
We're still waiting to find out who will be called in and apparently it is being chased up today. I'm glad we have a date so soon as I was thinking it was going to be dragged out till January!
So, that is your next update. I hope all this waiting around will be worth it. XxxxX
Thanks hun.Hope you get to have your say in court Sam and its one more nail in the coffin for this evil woman, I will be with you in spirit and hoping and praying you and all those poor dogs and owners get justice.
Thanks hun.
Your kind words mean so much to me. You are a wonderful person and I really do thank you for everything.
I'll get round to replying to your message later. Poor Billy, cant stop thinking about him. Give him some extra loving from me & Alfie & will speak to you again later on hun. XxxxX
She is in court(Norwich Crown Court), before the trad std case. On 25th October and 4th November two counts of benefit fraud brought by south norfolk council.
Sam is right the more people who attend and show they care the more people will become aware of these people.
Good luck Sam if u r called up.
Fingers crossed she gets what she deserves. I hope you get chance to have your say Sam, please keep us updated.
i stupidly purchased a West Highland from Lisa Walsh in November 2011.
We got met by the house and ushered into her front room where 2 adult westies were crated and the pups were in the crate above. I was informed that the older westies were the mum and dad. The son who was wearing only a t-shirt then proceeded to open the puppies crate and climb in. I got handed a pup as did my husband. When i looked again, the remaining puppies were being dangled out of the crate by their throats by the child!!!Not taking any notice of his mother he then bent the head back on one pup until it was yelping in agony and then proceeded to strangle it.
We paid full whack for the pup. believing it was KC registered and took him home. Several days later the pup (now called Wesley) still had extremely loose stools. I telephoned Lisa and she told me to feed him yoghurt..BAD move, my boy is actually lactose intollerent and this made matters so much worse, to the point he was actually pooing blood clots, we immediately took him to the vet and he was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis. I refused to listen to the vet and put him on hills prescription diet (ID) for 3 solid months. and introduced various things into his diet very very slowly (over a month) and now, touch wood hes ok with his diet. I also had trouble obtaining the KC papers. various excuses but low and behold the paperwork did arrive, only to find out that my boy...(with male sossige and lil plums) was actually, a girl! (according to the paperwork) so...doing what i know to be right, i phoned lisa and told her, she mumbled and i said, yeah well, actually, he has all the male tackle so um...you know, i think you may have made a mistake, to which she replied that yes she had, i then asked her how the bloody hell you make a mistake, you MUST know how many male and female pups you have in a litter. She got pissy and replied, "have you never made a mistake?", er, well yeah, quite obviously i have love, i bought a puppy from you! needless to say, she was almost ready to erupt at this point so i said i wanted the paperwork or i was seeking legal advice, she then told me to get stuffed and put the phone down.
seems the paperwork is a waste of time, my boys registered mum isnt his mum afterall (Trading standards did a DNA) and we assume she fraudulently told the KC, that she had 9 in a litter and purchased another 5 pups from a puppy farm, my boy being one of the pups bought in.
I dont think any of us will be compensated, but lets hope by sticking together we can have our day in court and have the bitch banged up for a very long time, i'll be first in the queue to stand up and give witness statements.
Didn't do that properly did IJust an update.
We went to see Lisa Walsh this evening to confront her about her activities.
She said that all the negative reports were down to jealousy. Interestingly the Farm on which she lives now have large notices up saying that they have nothing to do with the puppy breeder in the house and do not approach them regarding the health of puppies purchased. When quizzed about this she said she is in the middle of a dispute with them over the house she is renting and they are spreading rumours.
When asked about the fact that I couldnt find the mother of the puppy on the KC website she acted confused and said I must have spelt it wrong, I said I spelt it exactly as she had told me...she had no answer for this.
When asking for deposit back not surprisingly she flatly refused, I pointed out she took the "non refundable" deposit fraudulently as she advertised puppies as KC registered and they aren't she said that Trading Standards had her papers which is why they weren't, she had never mentioned this before and had no answer when I said this just that they were registered...they aren't there is no two ways about it, advised I would inform Trading Standards and Preloved as she was lying in her adverts, on checking this evening all her adverts in all names have disappeared, luckily I printed off copies, also asked why she has several adverts in different names but with the same picture of three puppies, she said there are two names licenced at the site and it was a nice pic as puppies are hard to take photos of, I said I think not and again she is making a misrepresentation in her adverts and again she had no answer.
I knew she would not refund the deposit so we left saying it would be taken further, as we left we were approached by one of the farm workers who had seen what had taken place and he had said that we weren't the only ones he had seen this happen to they have loads of ppl coming to the farm to complain about sick animals and she does nothing. She has not paid rent in 6 months and they have had signs saying the puppies have nothing to do with the farm taken down or destroyed. He also advised that they have heard that she buys in puppies from travellers and sells them as parts of litters which is why all sorts of diseases are being introduced. He has taken my telephone number and the farm owner will contact me to give me details of their action to support mine.
I am amazed the South Norfolk Council still licence this woman as the place smells to high heaven, she says she has no hot water and asbestos in her buildings ......hardly a good environment to keep the 20 dogs she finally admitted to me she has.
She admitted to me that she is under investigation by Trading Standards, I will be contacting them on Monday with all of the evidence I have found about her including copies of adverts she has now removed and will also lodge a complaint about the council. If anyone on here has had dealings with the woman I would suggest you do the same as the council state they have never had a complaint about a sick animal.....I find this very surprising.
Even if I don't get the deposit back I will do everything possible and complain to everyone possible to try and get this woman shut down - she is very very convincing and has obviously had lots of experience in conning people but at the end of the day it's the dogs and puppies I worry about.
Naively when enquiring I asked for the parents scores over the phone (which she disclosed). When speaking to the kc they brought her details up, and she does have litters registered with them - last one being jan this year, amber was born in feb.
End of the day it is only a piece of paper and we don't intend to breed - she's just a loved member of our family, but it's the fact our pup was falsely advertised and if she lied about that then what else has she lied about?
The day after finding out more recent bad press about her this week I marched amber straight down the vets for a full mot to put our minds at rest.
Lessons definately learned! We are upset and angry that we were stupid enough to fund this 'business', but we are going to pursue this big time
Wonderful Sam, im so pleased for you, go get her.
Sent you PM. xHas she been evicted / moved? If so any licences she has will be invalid so the local authority & trading standards can act.
I don't know much about the court process, but can you ask to have it held in another courthouse?