Liverpool cream... reactions???

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I was wondering whether people would share their experiences of using the liverpool cream on sarcoids?

My mare has just had her second day of treatment (Monday the first, Wednesday the second and is due one on Friday). The first day there was no real reaction, and then yesterday she did not seem bothered by it when it was being treated at 10am. However, by the time I got back up to the yard at 6pm the area around the biggest sarcoid (the size of a pea) was almost like a haematoma in that it was hanging down below her tummy and filled with fluid.

It felt hot to touch, was obviously sore because she was not 100% happy about me prodding it (to see whether it was fluidy on vet's request). I gave her some bute paste last night, and some more this morning and turned her out for a few hours too. The swelling had reduced a lot this morning. There was still some inflammation around it, but rather than hanging down, it was more spread across the area.
 
According to my vet when my horse was treated this year, the bigger the reaction the better as far as the end result goes.

He said not to use bute or anything else as by reducing the reaction you are effectively reducing the efficacy of the cream.

It is not pleasant to see them suffering from it, but it's like giving chemo to a cancer patient - they feel dreadful whilst being treated but with any luck it works.

As I understand it, the first couple of applications don't produce much of a reaction, but then it starts to work, and the reaction will continue for a few days after the last application of cream. Again, the longer the better according to my vet.
 
Thanks rowreach... that was mentioned to me too last night when I phoned the vet
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I ummed and ahhed about giving her something, but the swelling was pretty bad and she was stamping her leg a lot too
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I will try to get some photos of the area when it is reapplied tomorrow as that is when the reaction will be the most severe I think!
 
My horse's sarcoid was on his neck, and he was utterly miserable during and after the treatment.
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I felt a real heel
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However, the cream dealt successfully with the sarcoid, but he was left with nerve damage to the area, and spent his time either rubbing the area (if he was in the stable) or galloping round the field as if he was being pestered by flies (when he was out).

Eventually the vet put him on a course of corticosteroids (50 per day to start with, but it eased off a bit!) which has really settled him down. He has been off them for several weeks now, and is like a different horse, very chilled and I can keep weight on him for the first time ever.

I think you will have to summon up your strength and try to think of the longterm result rather than how your horse is feeling right now this minute.
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I know how horrible it is, and most of us hate to see them suffer, but sadly it's part of the process. I am SO glad I stuck it out with mine - I really thought I was going to lose him at several points (his tumour was seriously aggressive).

Good luck!
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I had a gelding that had around 15 sarcoids on his sheath that were treated with Liverpool cream. The first 2 treatments didn't seem to cause a reaction, but then his sheath began to swell and we had to give him bute as he was a bit miserable and we didn't want to prevent him peeing. Once the treatment was complete, the swelling soon went down and the sarcoids dropped off (they were about 1/2 cm diameter and about 1 cm long, like tentacles). You wouldn't know that they had ever been there afterwards. I have before pics somewhere, but never took any after stupidly!
 
Llewi's stifle swelled up quite a bit from about the 2nd application till about a week after the last application but he wasn't lame so i just gave him a bit of bute and rode him anyway. he didnt seem bothered by it and the swelling wasn't painful.
 
It was completely down tonight, but she has been out in the field chilling out which may have helped.

I think I will keep her on the bute now and ride her on Saturday and see how we get on
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Sunny had a sarcoid on his face, right under where the cheek piece of the bridle goes. He needed 4 applications, never had vaseline round the edges of the area and never once seemed bothered by it. The area - as I was told to expect - crusted over and looked awful. I sewed a piece of sheepskin over the bridle where it touched the sore place and continued to ride him. After a few weeks, the crusty stuff fell off and a bald area of clear skin was left. It is completely healed now and you would never know he had ever had a sarcoid.

Mind you, my vets said that they were taught that if a skin lesion LOOKS like a sarcoid, then treat it as if it IS one. So Sunny's lesion may NOT have been! Any way, it cleared up beautifully with Liverpool cream. Some vets say exactly the opposite, ie if it's NOT a sarcoid, leave it strictly alone. Crazy or what lol???
 
Hi My boy had the treatment earlier this year on upper inner thigh and in front of sheath, he had 4 treatments in all and no bute or sedations, although I was warned he may need them. He was a little sore to the touch but nothing major. I think its a case by case basis really, its nasty stuff but I've heard fantastic results from people and (cross eveything) they don't come back!
 
I had a horse treated with the Liverpool crean about 12 years ago. His sarcoid was at the top of his inner thigh. I would definitely use vaseline as after his second (may have been third) application the sarcoid began 'weeping' and despite the vaseline burnt a lot of skin where the 'ooze' ran - his skin hung off in strips!
I remember a lot of swelling and my poor boy was literally on 3 legs - I do recall briefly thinking I wish I had just left it alone as he was so miserable!
After about 2/3 weeks the sarcoid fell off leaving a crater the size of a saucer, he quickly became sound and it never came back. So hang on in there - it will be worth it in the end!
 
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