Cahill
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this is the latest i have seen...
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronav...Ca0cY4g1bcE5KlIJ9wBZNq_SP0SdA_wyYAl-MqGPf2LF0
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronav...Ca0cY4g1bcE5KlIJ9wBZNq_SP0SdA_wyYAl-MqGPf2LF0
this is the latest i have seen...
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronav...Ca0cY4g1bcE5KlIJ9wBZNq_SP0SdA_wyYAl-MqGPf2LF0
i have been doing my horses (with dogs)then taking dogs for a walk,seems this counts as one now.Seems pretty clear: "It is essential that you minimise the time spent outside of the home"
Ahh thanks but i will continue to muck out. I can't deep litter mine as this has never worked and there is no way i would have her skipped out both ends of the day.You do not have a contract with your yard owner for full livery. They would have to take you to court to make you pay I think. With no contract I think they would not have a leg to stand on because it is them who decided to go to full livery. Not an easy position to be in it is no wonder you are upset about it.
In your situation I would start a deep litter bed so all you have to do in the evenings is a quick skip out and add fresh bedding freeing up more time for the other things you need to do there. You sound really stressed out so I think you should do this for your health even if it is not the best for the horse.
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I'm very lucky to have mine at walking distance from my house so can, if needed, combine walking a couple of the dogs down to check the horses. It's private property and no-one else needs to handle or go near mine (they live out) so quite safe from that perspective. However, I do only have the cob and Shitland there, my younger horse is away being backed etc and I've not seen him in 3 weeks and won't for the foreseeable future He's only half an hour away by car but rules are rules. I had hoped to visit him weekly so it sucks a bit, I have absolute confidence in his trainer though so I know he's being well cared for. I live alone too but I've got dogs, parrots, rabbit etc to keep me occupied.
I think my mental health is going to take a bashing as my counsellor sessions have stopped for now and April 12th is the anniversary of my little girl's death ???
Times are hard for us all, I really hope everyone stays safe...I'm open for a chat if anyone just needs to vent xxx
So you think the elderly shouldnt be out and about doing shopping and other necessary jobs but you should be allowed out pony cuddling? What an attitude!!Its even harder when I see the elderly out and about. I am being separated from my horse to help protect those who are vulnerable and some of those don’t seem to give a damn
So you think the elderly shouldnt be out and about doing shopping and other necessary jobs but you should be allowed out pony cuddling? What an attitude!!
Winters100 I ended up doing times for people to come up. There aren’t loads of us, so they have 2.5 hours - so can do jobs and ride if they want. I said if rules weren’t followed the yard would be closed and they could either have full livery with no visits or grass livery in the furthest field from the house and no yard access. Since then everyone has followed rules perfectly.
Not knowing how long it will be till I see her again has got me in pieces. Shes my soulmate.
I know there is far worse going on, but that doesnt make this ok or bearable at the moment.
Very late to the thread and haven't managed to read all of the replies but what are peoples opinions on the below:
Horse on assisted DIY livery (yard cares for her 1 end of the day) along with 4 others on the yard, rest are on full livery. Yard has been put on full lock down and no one allowed up.
What are your thoughts on this in my situation as an assisted DIY and also with regards to charges? I'm not really sure how to feel as know it's being done for the right reasons but also worrying about money being self employed and also really missing my girl.
As a YO I would turn the DIY's out 24/7 if possible to keep livery rates down or do a reduced rate for them until they can go out 24/7, the full liveries are used to the cost but it could be too much for a DIY to find, as long as the extra out of pocket costs are covered I would not want to add to peoples concerns at the moment , my part liveries are now out and owners are coming only to exercise, not daily, do the extra care they want to do, I do everything essential.
Sorry but why should full livery folk be penalised for paying more ? why is it that someone that cannot afford full livery have more right to see their horse/pony than those that pay for full livery as they work long hours or are out and around the country. I am classed as a key worker, so I am going out to work, but as i work long hours my horses are on full livery. So the opinion appears to be that I can risk my life to contact CV because i work in the transport industry, but must stay away from my horses because i ensure they have daily care. ie. full livery. When someone whom is not exposing themselves to this through work can carry on, as they pay less and still get to see their horses?
It is very simple. The only reason anybody should be going to a shared yard is if they are solely responsible for the basic daily care of their horse.
You’re not being penalised for paying more as such. Because your horse is looked after by someone else it’s not considered essential to have to go and see it. Plenty of people are key workers and do DIY, there are several on my yard. I’m still working albeit from home. I do understand though that it must be really awful not to see your horse I’d hate it and also I’d be worried about care if it were some of the YOs I’ve had before. I personally think that YOs should provide a safe opportunity at least once a week for owners to check their horses and I would personally regard that as essential (others would disagree). The government haven’t explicitly said that you can’t but people are following non-statutory BHS guidance and the like.
So should I change my livery status to DIY, so the livery yard looses out financially, I will save loads of money, whilst I get more exercise and could then justify going to the yard twice a day for hours on end?
Sorry but why should full livery folk be penalised for paying more ? why is it that someone that cannot afford full livery have more right to see their horse/pony than those that pay for full livery as they work long hours or are out and around the country. I am classed as a key worker, so I am going out to work, but as i work long hours my horses are on full livery. So the opinion appears to be that I can risk my life to contact CV because i work in the transport industry, but must stay away from my horses because i ensure they have daily care. ie. full livery. When someone whom is not exposing themselves to this through work can carry on, as they pay less and still get to see their horses?
I would have thought that in your position you would want to stay away from the yard. I am in a similar position to you of being at much higher risk of infection than most, and this is exactly why I stopped going before any restrictions were introduced. I could still go now if I wanted, but it is not the right thing to do. If you unwittingly take this virus to your yard then you really will see problems with care for your horses. It is exactly people like us, who could easily be infected now and not know it, who MUST stay away and limit ALL contact with others to an absolute minimum. I realise that this may seem 'unfair', but right now we are in a crisis and 'fair' doesn't mean anything.
If you are frontline & at a higher risk of infection, then surely you should be doing your best not to take the virus to your yard?[/QUO
So is everyone else, we do not turn pink or green when we are infected, so the same rule should be across the board, if you cannot afford full livery for 3 weeks then how would you afford a vet bill, or if you were ill and could not get to the yard what would happen then and does this also not encourage those on DIY to carry on regardless of what symptoms they may have?