Livid with police tonight

Orange-peel wow what an amazing person you are, i would of no doubt had a scream cry and rant then i hope i would be able to see things the way you did.
But then i hope i am never faced with the situation,
 
RunToEarth said:
My beef with horsey people is that they honestly do think they have priority over everything else in the whole world, all of the time, regardless.

Ever occur to you that the police may have been speeding to the scene of some slack arse rider who wasn't in control of their horse and caused another serious road accident...?
I'm sorry, but if you go out on the road with your horse, you must accept that other road users are perfectly legal to drive at the speed limit, and emergency services may pass you on the way to an accident, going over that speed limit.
If your horse doesn't like fast moving vehicles, or flashing lights, it shouldn't be on the road, for your safety, for your horse's safety, and for every other road user in the world that doesn't expect an out of control horse to disrupt their journey.
Just because you have a right to be on the road, doesn't make it a sensible place to be. Just because legally you can ride anywhere on your side of the road, doesn't make it sensible to ride in the middle.
Honestly, if I didn't have horses I would loathe horsey people's attitudes to road use...
Just saying ;)
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I do think these comments are very arrogant and ridiculous. I agree with both sides in some respects but to say that you shouldn't take a horse out that will not be bothered by sirens, flashing lights and anything else that suddenly appears and to be condescending about riders who expect drivers to respect them on the road is just stupid. No one is saying that horse riders should get special treatment, just sensible and safe treatment from other motorists. No horse is completely bombproof on the road, they are horses not machines, that is why we ride and have them! As to an emergency vehicle using sirens to tell other road users to get out the way when there are blind bends ahead, what a dangerous way to drive! What if you can't get out of the way? If something comes round a blind bend at 60mph flashing lights, sirens and you have no where to go you are toast! Nothing shoud speed around a blind bend, nothing, that is just commone sense and to slow down for a matter of seconds is not going to make a blind bit of difference to the outcome, after all they would have to slow down in city centres. I sympathise with the drivers of these vehicles but they still have to take the safety of other road users into account and yes, horses do need a bit more consideration because they are horses and don't understand the logic of why something is speeding up their arse.
 
Hollyberry said:
I do think these comments are very arrogant and ridiculous. I agree with both sides in some respects but to say that you shouldn't take a horse out that will not be bothered by sirens, flashing lights and anything else that suddenly appears and to be condescending about riders who expect drivers to respect them on the road is just stupid. No one is saying that horse riders should get special treatment, just sensible and safe treatment from other motorists. No horse is completely bombproof on the road, they are horses not machines, that is why we ride and have them! As to an emergency vehicle using sirens to tell other road users to get out the way when there are blind bends ahead, what a dangerous way to drive! What if you can't get out of the way? If something comes round a blind bend at 60mph flashing lights, sirens and you have no where to go you are toast! Nothing shoud speed around a blind bend, nothing, that is just commone sense and to slow down for a matter of seconds is not going to make a blind bit of difference to the outcome, after all they would have to slow down in city centres. I sympathise with the drivers of these vehicles but they still have to take the safety of other road users into account and yes, horses do need a bit more consideration because they are horses and don't understand the logic of why something is speeding up their arse.
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NO blue light users use sirens to say 'get out of the way' They are used as please let us through. NONE of us blindly speed around bends, we are taught to a high standard and therefore see things in ways other road users don't ie what you may see as a blind bend may in some circumstance not be to us.

What on earth makes you think that we don't drive with consideration to other road users (inc horses) ? a few incidents reported on here, that may well just fall into the % of human error ??

You are not the only one posting things in this light but you are the last so I have therefore used your post to try and get my point across

AS the post is also discussing other parts of blue light driving I would also like to ask you ALL to bear in mind in most instances what YOU or average drivers consider not to be safe, may in fact be VERY safe according to highly trained advanced and blue light drivers. Like I said previously there is always the human error factor or the odd individual who breaks the rules
 
Need a like button for RunToEarth and Soulfull.

The OH is on intervention so blues and twos driver in the police. He covers the area round my yard. There's a horse rider on his shift. He and she and the rest of the team know about horses and how spooky they can be. The other 4 shifts have no idea. They assume that riders on the road can control half a ton of horse capering round and reacting to sirens.

To us, it's obvious and a no brainer, to non horsey people, they have absolutely no idea that the rider screaming and swearing is not just angry, but also terrified and about to be badly hurt. Some (normal) drivers have no idea. Nor do emergency services.

Frankly, I'm full of sympathy for both sides. The one has to get where they're going darned quick, the other (me!) wets her pants at the idea of sirens anywhere near her horse! If someone is being attacked, I have to say I'd get my horse out of the damned way so the police could do their job, TBH.
 
Miss Bird: I did have a big cry, and it saddens me the comments about this, how selfish some people are being. However I do have hope that there is a lot of people out there who wouldn't be jumping on the emergency services back am look at it the way I had to. Yes you have a right to be upset if you or your horse ends up injured but never if a life was saved with nothing more than a lil bit of a panicked horse! People should take a look at the bigger picture.
 
As I have said before hubby is a firefighter, and the stupid idiot have his mobile ringtone as the fire engine siren.

Now this ringtone is deafening, its very loud and sounds like the real thing, if it goes off in a shop you can hear it miles away.

He rides a 5 yr old Haflinger who has terrible spooking episodes, taken a while to get him going good , anywayyyyyyy he is often out hacking and the mobile goes off, makes me jump, but the horse is now totally immune to it!!

Maybe this is a good idea for desensitising our horses, we all agree its a good thing to get our horses out of the way or Emergency vehicles, perhaps blasting loud 2 tones to them daily ..... just an idea!
 
soulfull said:
NO blue light users use sirens to say 'get out of the way' They are used as please let us through. NONE of us blindly speed around bends, we are taught to a high standard and therefore see things in ways other road users don't ie what you may see as a blind bend may in some circumstance not be to us.

What on earth makes you think that we don't drive with consideration to other road users (inc horses) ? a few incidents reported on here, that may well just fall into the % of human error ??

You are not the only one posting things in this light but you are the last so I have therefore used your post to try and get my point across

AS the post is also discussing other parts of blue light driving I would also like to ask you ALL to bear in mind in most instances what YOU or average drivers consider not to be safe, may in fact be VERY safe according to highly trained advanced and blue light drivers. Like I said previously there is always the human error factor or the odd individual who breaks the rules
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Echo this
Life would be somewhat easier if the everyday motorist could see what we see after training. Alas they can't, and without the experience are unlikely to ever understand the road view we take....... which is why I didn't mention it :)

Life behind blue's will never be easy for any driver, and no matter which direction we take it's likely someone will always be a little upset.

As a little eye opener for today, I entered a large forest in the south of england today, in response to a fallen rider in the middle of nowhere. Unfortunately to get to said rider I had to use the inner footpaths and bridleways through the forest.
The "friendly riders" in a group of 4 trotting towards me preferred to stop in front of the jeep with blue lights flashing, and berate me for using "OUR FOREST". Politely asked to move aside as making to an emergency, the lead female wanted all my details before moving.

The change in situation came, when I suggested I leave fellow rider in a serious condition, alone in the rain? No apology, just a "Oh!"

We don't do it to be awkward, we do the job to help and assist.
Many of us, as this thread shows, also ride and own horses.

Again I say, respect for all other road users
 
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