Loanee claiming ownership of horse and keeping passport.

Wrong - you were the rude one and turning this post into your own. If you do not know what you are talking about then do not challenge someone that does.

Enough on this topic - back to the people who have been helpful to the OP.
 
This passport thing is worrying me now.....sorry, don't mean to hijack the post.

On the NED database, you can add your horses' passport number can't you? (or is it already there??) and then link the horse to yourself. (I haven't done this with mine as I can't see the point)

So, what's to stop potential thieves contacting the HPA with numbers of passports, getting those passports changed into their name even though they don't actually have possession of them, and then phoning the Police and reporting the horse with it's passport stolen?

Or is this a bit far-fetched?
 
I think it really depends on the issuing agency for example I bought a horse off a dealer and the horse had a weatherby's passport, with the old owners name in it. Sent the info to Weatherby's and they contacted ex-owner to confirm that they were no longer the owner (they have 30 days to respond and then it will be changed into your name) anyway it was confirmed and changed to my name.

I have a shb passport and sold a horse over a year ago, I contacted shb to see if he had been registered with someone else as I hadn't been contacted (same as weatherbys) and they said it hadn't been changed and was still in my name!

Bought another horse last year and was given a bsja passport with him, filled in a form send that with the passport and I think £10 or something and it was back with me in a few days - no checks!
 
You cannot add the passport number only the PIO
If you have the passport number you can associate yourself with your horses which should effectively stop anyone else doing so--so I think it is a safety measure--others may disagree
 
QR: so if the loanee changed ownership via the internet can you not just do the same if no signature is required?

The previous owner of my horse lost her passport and when I got the vet out to do her drawings he told me not to bother going down the change of ownership route - just apply for a new one as its cheaper, which I did. No one questioned it, she was 12 yrs old at the time, I had owned her over a year and the passport was sent through very quickly.

Couldn't you do the same?
 
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The previous owner of my horse lost her passport and when I got the vet out to do her drawings he told me not to bother going down the change of ownership route - just apply for a new one as its cheaper, which I did. No one questioned it, she was 12 yrs old at the time, I had owned her over a year and the passport was sent through very quickly.

Couldn't you do the same?

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If it's just a 'lost passport' then that would be no problem. But here - the person who holds the passport and is claiming the horse MIGHT try to get the horse back. The 'old' passport is still valid and the 'new' passport for the same horse might suggest that the horse had been stolen by its rightful owner!

That is why I recommended going to Small Claims Court to get the passport back - and get a court judgement on whose horse it is. If someone else has your horse's passport - and it's in their name - you wouldn't have much going for you if they stole the horse too!
 
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