Gingerwitch
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What's Lucy's law ?
Lockdown animal selloff?
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Caol Ila
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I get the issue, smaulmaus. It's a catch-22. A lot of rescue dogs probably can't cope with people who have things like full time jobs, but then that's a significant proportion of otherwise good owners who can't get the dogs.
I did consider waiting to buy a horse, seeing if the market was overrun and cheap, but probably not for what I was after anyway.
I did consider waiting to buy a horse, seeing if the market was overrun and cheap, but probably not for what I was after anyway.
Nudibranch
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2 of the locals have turned to breeding labs recently and one also churns out moggie kittens. I have had to stop myself asking/looking at what she charges for the kittens because it would probably make me pretty angry. The whole pet lockdown situation is dreadful. At least the dog breed I have are not actually breeding at the moment (at least the kc breeders), which seems the responsible thing to do given the sorry stories I keep reading about puppy dealers.
windand rain
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I didnt get a rescue went to a few. I was retired had a garden with 6ft fence, owned dogs for more than 50 years shown and obedience trained them because I didnt want a terrier mix or an out of control GSD they refused to let us have one. Did get as far as a home check to be told no because we have cream carpets. Bought a Labrador puppy who is the light of our lives and is currently sitting on my feet on the sofa. I would love a cat but the cost is awful I have never paid for a moggy kitten the last one came from the vet chipped neutered and vaccinated free he was 8 weks old had been in 4 homes the last one before me had taken him to be PTS as he was a nuisance attacking the family dog. He always was fiesty and very free with teeth and claws but I adored him he was a huge character He attacked dogs all his life not ours but others. Kids quickly learned to leave him be but he was a real hunter and no matter how unwise he would bring wildlife home from fox cubs to mallard ducks and eerything in between
Edgehog
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Lucy's Law came in last April and basically bans the 3rd party selling of puppies. Any puppy under 6 months old can only be sold by the breeder or come from a rescue. There is more to it but that is it in simplest terms. I believe it is just in England.
chaps89
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Frank was neutered last month and it was £190 - that included pre-op bloods (£50ish) and a drip for whilst he was under (£20ish), so £120 without the fancy extras.
Gingerwitch
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Thank you x
maya2008
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Our lockdown kitten (already planned as we’d had mice) was free - £85 to neuter her and not a lot for vaccinations. She is a year old now!
Griffin
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So many people locally were letting their cats out without getting them neutered/spayed and there were dozens of 'unexpected pregnancy' posts on FB.
It's not just cats and dogs that are ending up in rescues. I am seeing increasing numbers of small furries who are only six months old or so.
It's difficult though. People who are not that bothered about their pets will be turned off from doing the right thing by their pet e.g. neutering if there are any small barriers to doing so.
It's not just cats and dogs that are ending up in rescues. I am seeing increasing numbers of small furries who are only six months old or so.
It's difficult though. People who are not that bothered about their pets will be turned off from doing the right thing by their pet e.g. neutering if there are any small barriers to doing so.
alexomahony
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Bit off subject but do you get female ginger cats? I always thought fingers were always, or nearly always male?
It may be going for so much and left unspade because it’s rare. Not that this is right at all - i completely disagree with getting dogs or cats from anywhere but a rescue.
It may be going for so much and left unspade because it’s rare. Not that this is right at all - i completely disagree with getting dogs or cats from anywhere but a rescue.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
1 in 4, I think, are female. There's a complex reason that I've forgotten 
Torties, on the other hand, definitely have to have female genes.
Torties, on the other hand, definitely have to have female genes.
alexomahony
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1 in 4, I think, are female. There's a complex reason that I've forgotten
Torties, on the other hand, definitely have to have female genes.
yes torties always female - it’s to do with XX and XY chromosomes but infant remember what exactly ?
poiuytrewq
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Weirdly gingers apparently are mostly boys1 in 4, I think, are female. There's a complex reason that I've forgotten
Torties, on the other hand, definitely have to have female genes.
Winters100
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I used to run a dog charity in a central european country. We many times had calls saying that if we could not collect the dog that day they would put it to sleep. Reasons were various, sometimes it was a dog belonging to a parent who had died, sometimes the wife was pregnant, sometimes because the dog had grown 'too big' or was digging the garden. The dogs were most often nice normal dogs. The humans were most often irresponsible and heartless. I can say in rehoming over 400 dogs the instances where I genuinely felt that the owners were facing genuinely unexpected circumstances and deserved sympathy could be counted on one hand.
Arzada
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Yes I had a beautiful long hair from Cats Protection.
cobgoblin
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I have a ginger female. The ferals that turned up in our barn were strangely good at producing ginger females.
Pippity
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There are two genes required to make a tortie, and they're both carried on the X chromasome. So a cat doesn't have to be phenotypically female, but it does have to have two X chromasomes. (Very rarely, you can get three chromasomes, so a cat could be XXY - two X to give it the tortie colouring, but the Y makes it appear male.)
quizzie
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It’s because the coat colour gene is carried on the X chromosome....and the ginger gene is partially recessive to other cat colours . So if you have a female with 2 ginger X chromosomes she will be ginger, but a male only has one X chromosome, so only needs a ginger on that to be ginger in colour. A female who has say one ginger and one black will be tortoiseshell.....a male cannot Normally be tortoiseshell as only has one X chromosome...
So XgXg is a female ginger
XgY. Is a ginger male
XgXb is a tortoishell female
BeckyFlowers
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This thread makes me feel sick and really sad. The thought of what is going to happen to all these kittens and puppies once the morons that bought them realise that kittens and puppies aren't born knowing that crapping on the carpet is a social faux-pas. I wish I had a massive house and loads of land, as I would fill it with unwanted critters and love them all.
smolmaus
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I would be tempted with violence honestly.
My free cat (waived adoption fees) has cost us £400 in vets bills and counting in 6 months because I was honest on the insurance forms and he was already chipped and neutered! My friends £50 mutt from the pound cost them £12k when she had to have both her back legs done for luxating patellas (thankfully insured). People just don't engage their brains.
If more people would admit to themselves that they shouldn't have a dog and having an animal isn't a right we wouldn't have so many in shelters in the first place. I don't mean your friends by that, I mean the ones who take a puppy and ruin it through lack of training or care so it ends up needing specific care. If all dogs came from decent breeders who home check properly and actually say no shelters would be empty.
Lucy's Law is a start I guess. A friend of mine lives in Sweden and their shelters are genuinely empty. She has a beautiful little purebred Papillon from a breeder that sounds fabulous and felt bad for not adopting but she literally wasn't able. No dogs to adopt!
McFluff
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Yes. I grew up with two ginger females. One looked like Garfield. Fab cats, lived well into their late teens (they were from the same litter).
I find this situation so sad. I’m looking for cats or kittens (lost my girl, who was 20, just before Christmas - her and her brother were ‘free’ in the year 2000). Rehoming is about £150-250 per cat - depending on age, charity, etc. I’d happily pay that as know the costs they’ve incurred, but there are none available near us at all. Which is good, but I wonder if it’s because people are using gumtree to get £££ ‘back’. I won’t look at pre-loved or gumtree as I’m way too soft and know I would end up giving stupid/selfish people money.
Currently resisting putting my name on a proper registered Burmese breeder kitten list. Trying to be patient as we can offer a good home when the inevitable happens as lockdown eases. But the house is empty without our mad-furries.
My OH view on all of this is ‘people are d***s’. Difficult to argue on that point.
Gift Horse
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Don’t do it ?!
I recently re-homed a cat (free) from a good home, she belonged to a colleague of mine. Colleague had a toddler and the cat was bringing prey in the house.
We have had mice in the house from time to time and thought the cat would be a good deterrent.
It’s been bittersweet; I’m very fond of the cat but she’s an ecological disaster, despite a bell, being kept in as much as possible (always dusk and dawn) and ad-lib food, she has killed a song thrush, wrens and other birds and small mammals too numerous to list. The cat has a home for life with us but I’m never having another. We always had cats growing up, some semi-feral but none had the level of lethal skill this one has - she’s unrelenting!
I recently re-homed a cat (free) from a good home, she belonged to a colleague of mine. Colleague had a toddler and the cat was bringing prey in the house.
We have had mice in the house from time to time and thought the cat would be a good deterrent.
It’s been bittersweet; I’m very fond of the cat but she’s an ecological disaster, despite a bell, being kept in as much as possible (always dusk and dawn) and ad-lib food, she has killed a song thrush, wrens and other birds and small mammals too numerous to list. The cat has a home for life with us but I’m never having another. We always had cats growing up, some semi-feral but none had the level of lethal skill this one has - she’s unrelenting!
MummyEms
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Couldn't agree more. Have been saying this for YEARS!! The amount of wonderful homes those poor dogs miss out on because of the ridiculous amount of criteria. No children / no other pets / no working even from home!? I also feel shocked by this.
MummyEms
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We live on a farm and have cracked this problem with our cat by putting TWO sets of bells on his collar.
Bonnie Allie
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We had one like this. So smart she could silence her bell under her neck and creep up on her prey. So fixed that by getting a very expensive cat collar that would emit high pitched beeps when she pounced. This would give the victim enough time to react and not be killed.
She never gave up hunting as I think for her it was an intuitive behaviour but she was rarely successful at landing a kill.
The collars are expensive and you have to keep an eye on battery life.
Gift Horse
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Thank you very much I will have a look at these collars.
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southerncomfort
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Our cat was free off a farmer.
She's 18 in a couple of months and we are starting to think about what to do when she leaves us.
Youngest daughter absolutely adores her and will be devastated when she's gone, so I've already said she can have another.
Problem is we couldn't have a small kitten as our JRT couldn't be trusted but she's fine with older cats so suspect we'll be looking at a rescue.
Our last cat came from the RSPCA but he was pretty feral to be honest.
She's 18 in a couple of months and we are starting to think about what to do when she leaves us.
Youngest daughter absolutely adores her and will be devastated when she's gone, so I've already said she can have another.
Problem is we couldn't have a small kitten as our JRT couldn't be trusted but she's fine with older cats so suspect we'll be looking at a rescue.
Our last cat came from the RSPCA but he was pretty feral to be honest.
meleeka
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Just because they were stupid enough to pay it, they expect everyone else to!
I ought to advertise mine for “just want back what it’s cost me.” I’m pretty sure I’d have enough to buy a nice car with that ?
Upthecreek
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Dog theft has just got out of control. I am still struggling to believe we are currently living in a world where puppies have become such a commodity that people will break into homes to steal litters. And people out walking their dog are being attacked by strangers who want to steal the dog ?
But what is the answer? Whilst you have people that are prepared to pay upwards of £2000 for a puppy or £1000 plus for an adult dog this will continue. So sad, both for the dogs and the owners that lose them and never know what happened to them.
But what is the answer? Whilst you have people that are prepared to pay upwards of £2000 for a puppy or £1000 plus for an adult dog this will continue. So sad, both for the dogs and the owners that lose them and never know what happened to them.
Meowy Catkin
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A Burmese! They are the best (amazing personalities) and the worst (so, so naughty) at the same time.
I still miss our brown boy. *gently prods McFluff to get a Burmese kitten*