ester
Not slacking multitasking
£800 for a supposedly (doubtful from the pic I saw) half bengal ginger tabby kitten, delivered to the door no parents seen.
Lockdown animal selloff?
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Upthecreek
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Do the prospective buyers not think this kind of thing is dodgy? Infuriating that people allow their desire for a cute kitten/puppy to overtake common sense and rational thought. Or do they just not care where it came from?
Michen
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Yep completely ridiculous. When I was debating getting my spaniel pup last year a ridiculous poster said “I would never sell to you as a breeder because you rent your house”. I mean, they didn’t even know why I rent (because I love the house, but have the means to buy a house tomorrow if I wanted/needed). Just an automatic, narrow minded assumption that I would be an unfit owner.
Dog has the best possible life a spaniel could wish for, including doing the work/training she was bred for.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
Just desperate I think and bonkers (was friend of a colleague) and yeah don't really care where it came from/need this now.
Caol Ila
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Seems to me that there's a flaw in the shelter system. If you automatically discount people who rent, who have full-time jobs, students, young people, old people, people with children, etc. etc., that's a large proportion of the population. Doesn't leave a shelter with many options. And if animals are indeed bouncing back to the shelters with any regularity, then it suggests that the narrow criteria still aren't weeding out the people who shouldn't have critters.
Arzada
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That would be great. I've had three adult female cats from RSPCA and Cats Protection. All bereaved. They've all been wonderful.
AdorableAlice
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Gove delivers ‘Lucy’s Law’ to protect puppies and kittens - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
It is a piece of legislation put in place to prevent breeders breeding puppies and selling them to a commercial third party to sell on again whilst the puppy is under 6 months of age. It has not as far as I am aware been tested as yet.
What it does not stop is a non commercial third party from selling a puppy they no longer want, so the legislation is silent if I, a private individual bought a puppy, decided I didn't want it and advertised it for sale.
Smitty
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The ones that are really getting to me are the adverts for say a 3 year old JT for £1,500 as they can't keep it any more.
To my mind, these people are just cashing in and making a profit on a dog that probably cost £300 originally.
To my mind, these people are just cashing in and making a profit on a dog that probably cost £300 originally.
View
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Sorry duplicate post
smolmaus
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Well timed text from my Dad this morning with a video of my uncle's new £1800 doodle pup
4 pups in the litter, advertised online and breeder apparently said they were all sold in an hour. He looks very sweet but ugh
4 pups in the litter, advertised online and breeder apparently said they were all sold in an hour. He looks very sweet but ugh
Upthecreek
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I don’t agree with intensive breeding of dogs for money but I can see why people do it. A friend has mini dachshunds and they’ve just recently had a litter of 6 which they are selling for £2500 for dogs and £2800 for bitches. All reserved before they were two weeks old. Nice little earner of £16,200 tax free.
Frano
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So if I breed from my Labx I could sell the resulting designer puppies for loads of money , and retire !
muddybay
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Sounds like a good plan!
View
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Sometimes the shelters are prepared to "think outside the box". My parents walked round the local shelter, and one dog made it obvious he was theirs. But they failed the home check because my dad was still doing some work with overnight stays away a couple times a month.
The Dalmation was rehomed to another couple, but ended up back in the same shelter. They phoned my parents, who picked him up that day.
That beautiful, daft dog lived for the rest of his life in a wonderful home, turned out to be a fantastic carriage dog, walked every day and kept my parents fit. He never spent another night in kennels - he was so distressed by one night that when my parents went on holiday he came to stay with us.
I understand that shelters need some screening criteria, but they also need to exercise discretion when the right home comes along but does not tick all the right boxes.
The Dalmation was rehomed to another couple, but ended up back in the same shelter. They phoned my parents, who picked him up that day.
That beautiful, daft dog lived for the rest of his life in a wonderful home, turned out to be a fantastic carriage dog, walked every day and kept my parents fit. He never spent another night in kennels - he was so distressed by one night that when my parents went on holiday he came to stay with us.
I understand that shelters need some screening criteria, but they also need to exercise discretion when the right home comes along but does not tick all the right boxes.
AShetlandBitMeOnce
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You say Doodle.. I say mongrel.
**(That's not aimed at you personally Smolmaus, just never ceases to amaze me that people don't see it as the mixed breed it is and pay through the nose for it)
DirectorFury
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A close family member paid £2500 for an Irish Doodle ????? (Irish setter x standard poodle). It’s a lovely dog but at 6 months is far bigger than both parents so god knows what the father actually was! A wolfhound by the look of it.
Christmascinnamoncookie
Fais pas chier!
I forgot to quote you from the thread about buying after having a horse pts! Did you buy a new horse?
AdorableAlice
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never under estimate what the intelligence departments of DEFRA, Local Authorities and HMRC are working on.
smolmaus
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I agree 100% the stupider the name the more the dog is worth it seems
Berndoodle, schnoodle, cockador, boxador, chiwoodles I should stop following pet advice pages on Facebook I don't want to know these stupid names
Like a mentos in a pepsi bottle situation, something in those genes made a weirdo combo and whooosh ?
I wouldn't mind paying a chunk of money for a dog if the "profit" was pushed into health testing, training and showing the dogs tbh. Its not so much the amount as knowing people just see it as easy cash and don't appreciate the potential consequences.
cobgoblin
Bugrit! Millennium hand and shrimp.
If your father was away occasionally, wasn't your mother still at home? Or did she not count.
Berpisc
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I hope so. Someone on a local community facebook page commented that drug dealers found it easier to make money selling dogs...
iknowmyvalue
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I think this is part of the problem my friend is having. They’re more than willing to adopt an older cat/something with some medical problems/multiple kittens. But also they both work full time (NHS workers, but 2 of them usually working opposite shifts so usually someone home!) and are a young couple renting their house.
I paid £950 for my KC registered spaniel bitch 18mo ago, and I thought that was expensive!! I’ve seen similar coloured ones going for double that and more this year, it’s bonkers. Whereas my little kitten I paid £5 for him, most of a bag of litter and 2 tins of food. Bought him from a client who just wanted a good home for him, mum was a feral farm cat who was killed by a car and they didn’t find his siblings so assume they died. I’ve only had him since November but he’s awesome.
View
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Mum has limited use of one arm, and they were worried about her ability to cope with a badly trained dog. Didn’t take into account (initially) that she was more than capable of handling horses!
And with consistent handling he became a well socialised and well mannered dog.
Karran
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I've posted the same thing before! I wanted another dog to go with my spaniel, a puppy was out the question as I work full time with an hour each side commute. I live with my brother who works weekends and shifts so is able to do loo breaks and is at home anyway 2 days during week and I have weekends off so dogs really only left 3 days a week for a max of 6 hours with free rein of house and toys etc.
I compete and train in flyball and agility and dogs come to the yard and have an hours walk before work and after. All the large and small rescues rejected me, telling me "it's an ideal lifestyle but can you cut down your hours at work or we cant consider you"
I'd very much love to cut down my hours, but I have Bill's etc to deal with too!
In the end I got my collie from a free to good home advert from preloved
cobgoblin
Bugrit! Millennium hand and shrimp.
It does make you wonder what the ideal owner envisioned by rescues actually is. Do they want unemployed people?
Caol Ila
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Independently wealthy ones who can easily afford animals without needing to work, but who also live in places that have large yards and six-foot fences.
Yeah, I've bought two year old (rising three) Andalusian.
cobgoblin
Bugrit! Millennium hand and shrimp.
I wish them luck in finding enough people like that to cover all the lockdown animals that will surely arrive.
conniegirl
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No rescue would give us a dog either.
We are a couple, own our own home but both work full time.
Loads of dog training experience and dogs get masses of exercise.
Turned down by every rescue we approached even when we offered to get doggy daycare or a walker in at lunch every day.
So i found Jezza privately via an advert at work and Daisy via a preloved advert that had been up for 5 mins when i found it. Didnt pay a penny for either of them.
We are a couple, own our own home but both work full time.
Loads of dog training experience and dogs get masses of exercise.
Turned down by every rescue we approached even when we offered to get doggy daycare or a walker in at lunch every day.
So i found Jezza privately via an advert at work and Daisy via a preloved advert that had been up for 5 mins when i found it. Didnt pay a penny for either of them.
Quigleyandme
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When my son was a vet student he went on placement during vacation at an estate belonging to a duke. He lambed night and day and was asked to stay on for a further fortnight, paid this time, to which he agreed. I was really upset because I missed him and wanted him home. The work came to an end and he was summoned to the castle where he assumed he would be paid handsomely. His grace paid him £10, five eggs and a runty lurcher pup with a dodgy tummy. Finn has been his constant companion for thirteen years so, in retrospect, what a bargain ?
iknowmyvalue
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I do understand rescues having requirements, but I think sometimes they’re too strict and don’t take the whole picture into account. My parents were thinking of taking on a rescue when they lose one of their current dogs, but doubt they’ll get approved as their garden isn’t “appropriately” fenced. All access to the road is fenced off with stock fencing plus hedges, but they’ve got 12+ acres including woodland, which is probably not 100% fenced everywhere (though only leads onto more woodland/fields). And the back garden and 2 acre field are only fenced with waist height fencing. It’s heaven for a dog: someone home all day, at least 1hr of walks every day, free rein of the garden and fields... they’ve had 4 dogs (including 2 puppies) there with no problems, but understandably it’s not viable to fence the whole lot, and they don’t want to ruin the view out of the back door with 6ft fencing!