Log Burner

[Hanno Verian]

Not horsey but hoping that someone from H &H can help.
I’m trying to identify a log burner that was installed in our house about 25 years ago, by the previous owner. I believe it was imported from Scandinavia and knowing the previous owner was likely to be a high end product.
It’s disconnected at the moment and we’re trying to decide whether to move it and reinstall it or just chuck it into a skip. I’m hoping that someone might recognise it so I can identify the manufacturer and find out if you can get spares and the installation instructions and specifications. It has the letters PEIS DFL 2 cast into the underside, I know that it is not a Nordpeis log burner, can anyone help?

 

[AmyMay]

Google tells us it’s a Norwegian stove.

It’s very nice, but if 25 plus years old, I’d buy new personally.

 

[emilylou]

Nordpeis probably, they are excellent burners.

 

[cobgoblin]

https://nordpeis.co.uk/wood-burning-fires/ni-22-2/

I'd keep it.

Eta... why are you so sure its not a Nordpeis? Its a fireplace not a woodburner, woodburners are supposed to be used with the door shut. With this you have the option of keeping them open.

 

[MereChristmas]

I’d get it checked and if it’s OK keep it.
We have a Jotul log burner. It’s like and Easter Island statue. It was in the house when we came here in the early ‘80’s. It can send out a ferocious heat. When a part inside broke we had a new piece made by a company east of Bristol. They told us not to to get rid of it.
‘they don’t make ‘em like that anymore’?

 

[twiggy2]

Looks lovely, if your chucking it out can I out my name in the hat for it please?

 

[JackFrost]

A year ago there was no market for 2nd hand log burners. The installers tell me that demand for stoves has shot up because of electric and oil prices, but they cannot install because manufacturers can't keep up with demand. There may at last be a market for old wood burners. I don't recognise it but the size of the firebox makes it really useful. It certainly looks scandinavian, not british.

 

[scruffyponies]

That is a Jotul #6

 

[MereChristmas]

I’d get it checked and if it’s OK keep it.
We have a Jotul log burner. It’s like and Easter Island statue. It was in the house when we came here in the early ‘80’s. It can send out a ferocious heat. When a part inside broke we had a new piece made by a company east of Bristol. They told us not to to get rid of it.
‘they don’t make ‘em like that anymore’?

That is a Jotul #6

Mine is a Jotul 4. This
https://www.google.com/search?q=jot...g&biw=1024&bih=653&dpr=2#imgrc=fcc1bPXj7oNSyM
Is this yours?
https://www.knight-stoves.co.uk/jotul-no-6-refurbished/

 

[cobgoblin]

That is a Jotul #6

Ooh yes, I think it is. The nordpeis one has glass.
There's a manual on the jotul site..
https://www.jotul.com/old-owner-manuals-and-old-jotul-identification

 

[cobgoblin]

Mine is a Jotul 4. This
https://www.google.com/search?q=jot...g&biw=1024&bih=653&dpr=2#imgrc=fcc1bPXj7oNSyM
Is this yours?
https://www.knight-stoves.co.uk/jotul-no-6-refurbished/

Your stove looks like Noggin the Nog!

 

[AmyMay]

A year ago there was no market for 2nd hand log burners. The installers tell me that demand for stoves has shot up because of electric and oil prices, but they cannot install because manufacturers can't keep up with demand. There may at last be a market for old wood burners. I don't recognise it but the size of the firebox makes it really useful. It certainly looks scandinavian, not british.

There’s a massive market for second hand wood burners. None of ours are new.

 

[J&S]

I was going to say Jotul, can't imagine why you would not want it. They are terrific.

 

[paddy555]

just chuck it into a skip


really? you are very lucky to have such a quality stove.

 

[JackFrost]

just chuck it into a skip


really? you are very lucky to have such a quality stove.

Jotuls are the Rolls Royces of woodstoves!

 

[Hanno Verian]

Hey thanks for all the help, I’ll get onto Jotul!
I certainly don’t want to throw it in a skip, which would be a terrible waste, that’s why I was looking to find out so I can make an informed decision.

 

[Parrotperson]

The problem you’ll find is (as we are currently finding out) there are new rules with log burners. So I’d get in a HETAS qualified chap and see what they say.

You may have to replace it to use it if you see what I mean. It’s not as simple as ‘reconnect: use’ sadly.

 

[Goldenstar]

I have a Jotul they are great burners .
My friend had that one it’s great

 

[scruffyponies]

The problem you’ll find is (as we are currently finding out) there are new rules with log burners. So I’d get in a HETAS qualified chap and see what they say.

You may have to replace it to use it if you see what I mean. It’s not as simple as ‘reconnect: use’ sadly.

This only applies if you live in certain (usually urban) areas. Out in the sticks you'd be fine. More important is to check the state of your flue, and the integrity of the stove itself, so that you have a good controllable burn with the doors shut, which is much more efficient than with doors open, if not half so pretty.

 

[scruffyponies]

BTW, even if you do have the odd crack or panel gaps, don't write the stove off. Many's the old stove which is kept running just fine with the odd lump of fire-clay, new rope or even strategically placed tin-foil.

 

[AmyMay]

BTW, even if you do have the odd crack or panel gaps, don't write the stove off. Many's the old stove which is kept running just fine with the odd lump of fire-clay, new rope or even strategically placed tin-foil.

Any stove that’s used absolutely must be fit for purpose and safe. Rope aside, anyone who chooses to run a dangerous stove needs their head seen to.

 

[scruffyponies]

Any stove that’s used absolutely must be fit for purpose and safe. Rope aside, anyone who chooses to run a dangerous stove needs their head seen to.

I assume OP will be burning wood, not coal or charcoal, so incomplete combustion is unlikely too be an issue. It's also an inglenook, so they could burn in an open grate, or direct on the brick hearth if they wished.
My point was not regarding a dangerous stove (e.g. flue blocked, leaking or not balanced), but rather one which burns a little faster than it should because the control vent isn't the only place letting air in. The latter is just wasting wood, and pressing a bit of fire-clay into it will do no harm at all.

 

[Cragrat]

We have Jotul - fantastic thing! Open it up to heat the room in minutes, close it down to smoulder away over night.

 

[cobgoblin]

You'll need a non combustible hearth too .

 

[QuantockHills]

No idea on make or model but just wanted to say I think you should keep it if you can as it's so cute and unusual! please don't skip it if you dont want it, they'll be loads of peeps who'll take it off your hands i'm sure!

 

[Surbie]

That's the one several of my Norwegian family have in their houses. Fantastic things!

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

This only applies if you live in certain (usually urban) areas. Out in the sticks you'd be fine. More important is to check the state of your flue, and the integrity of the stove itself, so that you have a good controllable burn with the doors shut, which is much more efficient than with doors open, if not half so pretty.

Not so, I'm afraid. We are in a semi-rural area, within a LA area which encompasses isolated rural properties, they all fall into a smoke control area and all need to burn seasoned wood in any stoves/open fires

 

[scruffyponies]

Not so, I'm afraid. We are in a semi-rural area, within a LA area which encompasses isolated rural properties, they all fall into a smoke control area and all need to burn seasoned wood in any stoves/open fires

Burning seasoned wood is common sense. You'd have to be a complete muppet to burn green timber - hence them needing to legislate in cities where people were doing just that. The question was rather whether older stoves without secondary burn were permitted.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

Burning seasoned wood is common sense. You'd have to be a complete muppet to burn green timber - hence them needing to legislate in cities where people were doing just that. The question was rather whether older stoves without secondary burn were permitted.

I'm sorry I must have misunderstood your post I read it that you were suggesting that those living rurally would/might be able to get away with flouting the new legislation

"This only applies if you live in certain (usually urban) areas. Out in the sticks you'd be fine "

 

[scruffyponies]

In fairness PaS, it's still legal to burn green wood, just not to sell it... so there'll be some dumb-ass somewhere going through £10 worth of firelighters trying to get a fresly cut log to light, whilst smoking out the whole house. Difference is they'll have to cut it themselves.

Meanwhile a sensible bloke will no longer be allowed to buy green to store for next year to save a few quid.