Loose horse in field with saddle attached(friends)

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i did not say have it shot....

my comment about horse and handler WAS tongue in cheek..

i did say to sedate it though....

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It is sometimes hard when it is written how something is meant. I have often written things and read it back and realised it could be taken the wrong way and deleted it.
When spoken it comes across better by tone of voice/facial expressions etc and you can have banter on what you mean.
Anyone know what is happening?
I find it hard to give advise without actually seeing the situation.
My offer is still here to come out please do ring me.
If you don't want me to come out and the horse has not yet been sedated beg, borrow or steal harris fencing. Quietly ignoring the horse at least fence off where it can get onto the road.
I have pm'd you if you have not realised - the flashing envelope.
 
Just wondered if there was an update?
These things happen and it's all very well criticising cellie and her friends management of the situation but hopefully you can deal with it today.
 
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i will repeat...

i did not say have it shot....

my comment about horse and handler WAS tongue in cheek..

i did say to sedate it though....

thank you...............

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Your comment was tongue in cheek, but several other people were completely serious about it!
 
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Has this bloody horse been caught yet?

I would suggest sending it to a competent 20yo lad that would hunt it over three counties. And then sell it for ££££££'s as a bold hunter across country.

NOTE TO SELF;
Dont lunge a green horse in a cavesson
Saddles are/were made with tree's for a reason

Please please don't sell it to another NH wannabe, horse whisperers belong in movies.
 
To all those who have asked 'what kind of owner' must the OP's friend be to leave a horse with a saddle on overnight....

When you go out for a hack, and your horse gets spooked, and you fall off, and the horse takes advantage and buggers off, reins and stirrups flying, and you come on here a day later to tell us all about how it took hours to find the horse, how the little devil was found, still saddled, having the time of his life in some forest or meadow, do you think you would deserve to be told that you are a sh1t owner for 'leaving it saddled'? And how would you feel if people had told you then that the best thing would be for the horse to be shot/put down, because it was obviously SO unhappy with you that it felt it had to get away from you.

Once, I was at Newmarket racecourse, and a horse broke loose going down to the start. He galloped off into the distance, and was found - 7 HOURS LATER - gorging himself on lush grass some 4 miles away. It should never have happened, granted, but it did - and luckily, the horse was fine. I dont recall any allegations of bad ownership being levelled at the trainer/owner/jockey then. Maybe they should have had that horse put down, too - he obviously didnt fancy going racing that day, and maybe his 'desperation' for grass reflects what an awful life he must be having.....better off dead, surely?

What about ponies that get loose at shows? They never want to be caught; a friend of mine's pony once dumped her in the jumping ring, then jumped three strands of string fence and careered round and round the showground, collecting three other ponies who fancied a jolly with him. They didnt want to be caught either, but I'm not sure that had any reflection on 'how they felt about their lives.' But ah, I guess the easiest/kindest thing would be to put them down, eh?

Riding is not so different to lunging; both can result in the horse breaking loose, either through negligence or through an unlucky twist of fate. I'm sure we've all been there at some point! I find it absolutely farcical that people have suggested that the horse be put down (JM07 this isnt aimed at you - I completely understood that your post was tongue in cheek.) Nobody to my knowledge has seen or knows this horse, nor have they seen the owner's methods and behaviour around him. As such, you are not qualified to judge the whys and whats - how about sticking to giving the ADVICE that was asked for?

This horse is, most likely, frightened by the saddle having slipped round and back....how do you think they make the broncos buck...???

Conversations that take paths like this make me so mad.
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There seem to be a lot of people on HHO who cry "shoot it" everytime someone posts about a horse with a problem. In certain circumstances it is the only recourse, if the horse is a danger to itself or to others, but honestly I find it staggering how many people seem to suggest it as a first course of action rather than a last resort.
 
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There seem to be a lot of people on HHO who cry "shoot it" everytime someone posts about a horse with a problem. In certain circumstances it is the only recourse, if the horse is a danger to itself or to others, but honestly I find it staggering how many people seem to suggest it as a first course of action rather than a last resort.

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Yes, you're right there. There are some here who would have seen me have Ellie PTS/sold three months ago, simply because she is a 'lone' horse
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can i just say that i was one of the earliest posters on this thread and said "dart it", which very very definitely did not mean "shoot it" !
i agree though, there are lots of people on here that assume that other people are total irresponsible muppets, and that shooting the horse is the best thing for it. i really don't think so.
if getting it to follow a mare doesn't work then get a vet to dart it with very quick-acting tranquilliser, if the alternative really is that it is in serious danger of jumping onto a main road. the poster has already said that they've tried all the usual things, and that the horse is jumping 5-bar gates and electric fencing.
please, don't anyone slate the original poster or the owner any more... there, but for the whim of a naughty and/or frightened horse, go any of us... i've certainly lunged youngsters in cavessons and tightened the noseband of it halfway through... and luckily, one's never done this to me... yet!
 
kerilli - I agree that darting it is the best option. There are many people who have said that PTS - shooting or otherwise - is the only thing to do here. They are the ones I have a problem with!
 
Wonder if this horse has been caught yet. I think that if the yard lended itself to it the best thing to do would be to shut the yard gate and park a large vehicle in front of it and herd the horse from the field into the yard, once enclosed in the yard area it should be easier to catch.
We once had to herd a horse down the road (1/2 mile) that had been loose and uncatchable for 2 weeks!
 
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i will repeat...

i did not say have it shot....

my comment about horse and handler WAS tongue in cheek..

i did say to sedate it though....

thank you...............

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Your comment was tongue in cheek, but several other people were completely serious about it!

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i put this up as i didn't want to be named as agreeing to something that isn't neccesary..
they obviously haven't a clue how to deal with type of situation...
 
Treeless saddles have their place and not alll horses suit treed saddles.
Why do people make such blinkered statements instead of looking at the whole situation.
As Miss Elz said this probaly happens quite a lot when people fall off.
Hope it's been resolved now
 
Hope they've managed to catch the poor thing but they have my sympathies. It took my husband, myself, my yard owner and my instructor 1.5 hours the other night to catch one of her youngsters that had got loose after barging straight through my instructor, the stable chain and the door to get out of a stable.
The horse is not unhappy, unloved nor mistreated. She was being a complete little madam and hadn't wanted to come in.

I have to say if they've not caught it by now the swiftest end (I mean to the incident not the horse obviously!) to this might be to dart it.
 
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i will repeat...

i did not say have it shot....

my comment about horse and handler WAS tongue in cheek..

i did say to sedate it though....

thank you...............

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Your comment was tongue in cheek, but several other people were completely serious about it!

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i put this up as i didn't want to be named as agreeing to something that isn't neccesary..
they obviously haven't a clue how to deal with type of situation...

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I knew you were joking JM
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Sadly Spiral is right, there were others who actually meant it
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ETS: I can't believe I just read the whole thread!
 
Having read the whole thread, I feel very sorry for all concerned (and that includes the unfortunate owner who seems to be getting some stick), I am sure you have tried everything - looks like the only option is a vet and a tranquilliser gun - which you have probably arranged today. Hope all goes well.
 
Ther is one sure way of catching this horse, try and contain by electric fence or whatever means a small an area as possible, cut off his water supply, go at regular intervals and offer him the water he will come eventually.
 
Can i just add it is a very nice person that genuinly wanted advice on an unfortunate happening. If the full story was written there would be pages and pages. I often don't give advice as it is hard not knowing the real situation or seeing the layout of things. It could turn out to be the wrong advice. It is also difficult to comment without full history. I have everything crossed. Good luck.
 
Having now re read the thread in a sober mind (far too much red wine last night (blush), i really dont think that it should be shot
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I retract my statement, i hope you have managed to catch your horse and get something done (((hugs)))
 
Thanks everyone for the input.I have replied to some of the helpful pms and appreciate the friendly advice.Sorry I havent replied to all the well wishers.
There are some more tactics (friendly of course) being used today and the vet will come out with sedative .He is being buddied up and we will bring in all the horses this am. hopefully he will follow and can be gently persuaded to go to his stable.
If anyone wants to buy him hes up for sale to a confident expert handler for rebacking schooling.
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I posted on here last night:- "If you do manage to get him into a very small area with very high surround DON'T give him any water. Horses can manage without food for quite a while, but not without water. He would get to the point where he would do anything for a drink.

Daisychain also suggests the same, above, but if the weather in Norfolk is anything like it is here,
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then I should imagine that he won't get very thirsty for quite a while. It is still worth keeping in mind, if circumstances/weather changes.
 
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What a sad circumstance - a good reason why with a youngster or nervous horse its a good idea to make sure everything is on properly BEFORE you leave the stable
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I hope it all works out ok.
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Good idea. Next time I get on one of YO's youngsters, I'll get on in the stable, shall I? Just in case it bucks me off and disappears with my tack. Heck, I'll just ride it in the stable.
Do you suggest that next time I lunge Antifaz I take him back to the stable to clip the lunge rein onto the other side. *sigh*
 
Hands up all those who have never had an accident or a blip.
I remember my horse throwing my husband and buggering off. I said i hope my saddles o.k.
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I had only just finished paying for it. Hubby was fine in the mud she dumped him in
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This reminds me of a really embarrasing cock-up I had last year involving a bad hangover, a pair of longreins and a not very quiet 7hh shetland pony.
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Oh its a b*gger when they can jump and you cannot pen them in.

Our livery with a recovering tendon escaped as they hadn't put the bull bar on his pen and he barged out. He jumped 3 five bar gates and was not having any of it (he broke a girls jaw earlier this year so everyone being quite careful of his rear end).

In the end he tried to jump a stock gate, which was bigger than the others (over 4ft) and didn't get it right, go tangled up in the gate (which bent) and then got attacked by fatboy, who didn't like the invader to his space. He was then feeling very sorry for himself and gave up.

Not an ideal way to catch him at all!

To add to the other comments, there is a reason why most professionals don't use a treeless saddle as they do commonly slip.

Hope your friend manages to catch this one without incident..
 
Well, I sometimes buy cobs to bring on to ride and drive and then sell as nice allrounders - bit of a hobby really.
I fancied a change and picked out a very pretty palomino shetland, he hadn't been handled much but was confident with me and had been on road, lunged etc ect...
So I thought I would start long reining him, bad idea really as I had been out the night before and was still a little shaky. Any way I had him going resonably well in a confined space so I thought I'd take him into the field. Instead on leading him through the door I pointed him at the gate and asked him to walk on. WELL it was like the beast of bodmin had bit his ass and he jumped what seemed like ten feet straight up and out, landed at a gallop and left me flat out on my belly wondering what had happend! It happened so fast the pony was at the other side of the field before I had time to pick myself up off the floor and yell expletives at everyone in the vicinity!
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