Lovely Louie Jumping (CC please)

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Before I go into detail of the lovely Louie can people please go onto my facebook via this link and like the picture I shared so I can win the pretty browband? I'm currently in second :D
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So this is Louie jumping today, love him so so much but need some CC. Bit of history he's only been jumping 2 months so it's still a bit new for him. Also excuse defensive position Louie was so proud of himself for clearing the planks for the first time he needed to celebrate! :eek:

I find he's keep drifting to the right because the gate is to our right so he's decided he has to go that way. Solutions for this would be fab :)

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He looks lovely :) I'm not really qualified to comment, but what about using poles in the shape of a V to "guide" him to the fence, so he jumps in the middle?

He has a good jump on him, especially if he's only been jumping for 2 months :)
 
Not keen on v poles as he is only drifting when he wants to go to the gate. He's fine over fences not by the gate, sometimes we get a good one but other times it can get a bit hairy, once managed to nearly end up on the wing. :eek:
 
No advice on the straightness part but I would echo the above comment that you might want to get into more of a 'if its not gone great slip the reins' habit so you don't make it a negative experience for him. Very pretty little horse, just let him go forward a bit more and steer and steady him with seat and legs more so than hand :)
 
He seems a sweet sort, still quite green and doesnt look entirely happy in his mouth. As other have said a bit more leg and a bit less hand i think thats why his head is coming up quite alot on the approach to some of the jumps rather than lowering it.
 
Lovely looking sort! Personally, j feel his flatwork isnt strong enough to be jumping yet, and the way he is tackling them will cause you problems in the long run and require more time and effort 'undoing'. I'd take him back a step and spend the winter consolidating the flatwork and start jumping again in the spring. He needs to listen to your seat/weight and to learn to lift his back and engage the hind end, to stop this rushing and fighting. Lots of trotting pole work would help, at the momen over tiny jumps you can get away with the warp speed launch, meaning 'get away wigth' as in you are unlikely to come to grief, but it needs stamping out. Having that approach lurking in the back of his mind could come back to haunt further down the line when you are perhaps facing something big and solid. Gaining his confidence and strength through flatwork is the key. Good luck!!
 
Love louis!!!

Yes you are holding him a bit but with the potential of a duck to the gate I 'get it' too. Looks like he's loving his jumping!
 
Where do you find them? First the beautiful Andy & now beautiful Louie!

Personally, I'd be bored to tears of flatwork and hacking out all winter and so would my steed so i'd have to do some jumping here and there :D

I think he looks like a lot of fun. Can't comment on ability as my jumping isn't exactly Hickstead standard! I have the opposite problem to previous comments on holding his head - I ride with washing lines. Everywhere. All the time, so we never go in a contact unless you threaten him with side reins!! :D
 
No expert BUT you asked for opinions:)

Personally I think you are holding him too much with your hands - I would let him canter on for a few more strides after landing before collecting him...

Lovely horse though, love a nice grey:)
 
Looks like he needs a lot of poles and gridwork to help regulate and straighten his approach for you both. At the moment he only looks as though he is going over because the rider is holding it all together and keeping him in a line (just about!).

Is this the pony that was being discussed the other week as an easy pony to jump and some people were saying value at £8k?? Doesn't look like he should be let anywhere near kids yet..:( Sorry to be negative. Lots more work to do. Don't rush it though, or he could get stale..
 
Honey08 said:
Is this the pony that was being discussed the other week as an easy pony to jump and some people were saying value at £8k??
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Yes this is the same pony.

Looks like he's got quite a nice pop in him but as others have said I'm not sure he is balanced enough to jump yet, especially at that height.
 
Personally I would say your stirrups could go up a hole or two so that you can wrap your legs round to help keep him straight and soften your hands. Cross poles are good for straightness but I would be only trotting to the fence with a pole on the floor about 3 human strides away so that he learns to take his time and work out what to do with his body.
 
Honey08 said:
Looks like he needs a lot of poles and gridwork to help regulate and straighten his approach for you both. At the moment he only looks as though he is going over because the rider is holding it all together and keeping him in a line (just about!).

Is this the pony that was being discussed the other week as an easy pony to jump and some people were saying value at £8k?? Doesn't look like he should be let anywhere near kids yet..:( Sorry to be negative. Lots more work to do. Don't rush it though, or he could get stale..
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I agree with this. I would be doing a 1 stride double starting at cross poles. I also think he misunderstands the leg and hand commands, so I would be doing flat work. Personally the first jump where he wibbles and wobbles, it can be tempting to just get them over. But sometimes that's more upsetting than pulling them up and represting. This doesn't teach stopping, but it's better for a youngster to go into a jump balanced. You said you were defensive because he was celebrating, I think if he is bucking on landing then it's because he is unbalanced.

I would do raised poles, and get his confidence with poles up.

He is lovely, and can jump.
 
I agree that you look like you are holding him and not riding from your seat and that he seems to need a lot more flatwork before jumping as i don't think he looks overly comfortable jumping x I'd be working on the approach as well and using circles before the jump as well as poles and small grids.

He seems a sweet sort but very green and needs quite a lot of work yet x

Just my thoughts though xx
 
Have read all replies thanks for advice. Will make sure I keep him more varied and will do some grids with him at least once a week as I can see how it will help him and will give some of the exercises mentioned a go. :) Also have jump lesson on weds opposed to flat so can also get some fab tips from RI.

Not sure about the wobbling, he used to stop a lot so sometimes I'd rather he went over then stop, hence why to begin with jumps are tiny so he can get confidence then we slowly build them up but they are nothing huge, we don't jump anything over 90cm.

The holding with my hands is because there were moments where if I didn't have his head it would have been between his knees. I know I jabbed him in the mouth the first time over planks, I don't normally I grab neck strap but made a mistake that time as genuinlly didn't think he was going over but in future will try not to catch him. :o

His flatwork is brilliant, I willl get updated videos on it soon but he's at the point in his education where you don;t have to do much to get stuff out of him. I.e a change in position and he collects/ lengthens/ leg yields/ shoulder in etc. This goes out the window when jumping because he is enjoying it too much.

He doesn't normally doesn't buck/ bronc really isn't him normally hence the not brilliant riding. He was acting like that because all ponies were worked up that day as a horse escaped into his field then the yearling turned out next to the school was careering around. With regards to selling him there is no way I will sell him to someone without them knowing what he can be like. When on the flat he'll buck a bit but nothing like he did the other day but any potential purchesers will know that.

He has done flatwork all the time, I think it's nice for him to do something different that he enjoys so I will keep jumping him as he really does enjoy it. :)

He is a very cheeky chappy, love him! Thanks for getting it nikcscott, I think it's hard for people to actually see what he was like but glad people can see videos from us at our worst. I don't know how I managed to end up with him, I love him and my Andy. Feel so lucky to have two lovely boys. :D
 
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He is a very cute pony!!!

But if this is the 8K one , then you have a long road ahead of you to get anywhere near that.

This pony's flatwork is no where near established ... flatwork, polework and gridwork only for now!!!
 
He's cute, but jumping because the jumps are there and he's scopey and so going round would be more effort. But he doesn't really have to jump as he's being given the chance to escape.

I'm put your stirrups up a bit, and maintain a lighter seat and keep him in trot over grids and then build him up to cantering them. Almost so it's boring, and then it can get more interesting. I'd be more comfortable if you rode in proper footwear. Your legs are what give the aids, not your heels. In baggy boots, you cannot give precise aids!
 
Totally agree with you there it's the same with his flatwork, it's easier to use his paces to get out of proper work. Will really crack on with some grid work :)

Boots are temp measure as my riding boots got torn apart by my naughty dog so saving up to buy a new pair (having to fork out money on vet bills so may take a while :( :p )
 
ihatework said:
He is a very cute pony!!!

But if this is the 8K one , then you have a long road ahead of you to get anywhere near that.

This pony's flatwork is no where near established ... flatwork, polework and gridwork only for now!!!
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100% agree with this. He has bad trots, bad canters, bad bends. It's only your skill as a rider that gets him over the fences. Gates and napping is no excuse, he just looks unhappy all round.

I'd taken him back a few notches doing polework while ridden, and then loose schooling.

He is taking a lot of persuasion to get into those jumps! So i'd switch to loose schooling and polework under saddle till he enjoys jumping and is happily carrying you into smaller fences.
 
To me he doesnt look ready for jumping yet, I would be looking to improve his flat work and build up more muscle. When he has matured he will make a lovely horse :)
 
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