Magnetic Headpiece - the verdict!!

Trust me i am very open minded, i have just spent the last 20yrs breaking and schooling horses, and have seen this scenario time and time again, thats all...
 
I am not denying your experience, however to say you are right end of is not open minded. P_G is very experienced and doesn't need to be spoken to like an idiot.
 
i have also broken in and trained numerous horses and have been riding since the age of 3.

It certainly isnt a scenario - i have put up with more than most people can imagine with my horse because i know hes going to be worth it in the long run.

if i find something i think will help make him less nervous then of course i am going to try it.
 
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i didnt ride him any differently to how i normally would.....

[/ QUOTE ] I wasn't talking about you specifically - just a general observation on how the 'placebo effect' might work on horses!
 
Hey, i dont mean to offend you, but i think it will be a very shortlived effect thats all... It sounds like your horse has major confidence issues.
 
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i didnt ride him any differently to how i normally would.....

[/ QUOTE ] I wasn't talking about you specifically - just a general observation on how the 'placebo effect' might work on horses!

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And I think it is very easy to not be aware as a rider of small changes we make which can have a big effect. I've fallen foul of this in a big way with Twiggy - she used to nap every time at the turning from the lane to the bigger road we ride on. Every time without fail. Nothing I did made any difference. Until the day I realised I was shortening my reins by an inch or so just before going out onto that road - so not a major change, not enough to stop her going forwards etc. So that day I lengthened them again - no napping. I played with that for months afterwards - shorten, even a tiny amount and she would nap, leave be and change nothing, no napping. Dunno what she was thinking, but if left alone she did not nap.

So I think as much as we think we are not changing anything, or anything crucial, sometimes we are.

I hope it is the headpiece - when I was in your position with Twiggy I would have tried anything too (and did!), TBH it is a blessing not to have to as my money can now all go on training and competing!
 
when hes good hes amazing, but when hes nervous he gets naughty to compensate.

i think the fact that hes one of the top 45 young dressage horses in the UK proves this........
 
No offence but PMSL!!
Top 45 after what winning one thing which was not even a national competition like Badminton 4/5yo or Young Dressage horse.
I love reading what crap you will write next.
 
er, excuse me? He was selected as one of the top 45 young horses in the country to do the World Class Potential Selection day, its nothing to do with the YH class so get your facts right.
 
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How can a post about a magnetic headpiece turn into such a bitch fest? I am suprised at some of the people on here.
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Just another day at a livery yard
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when hes good hes amazing, but when hes nervous he gets naughty to compensate.

i think the fact that hes one of the top 45 young dressage horses in the UK proves this........

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Really? I did not realise that Equine Pathway thing was invite only, I am sure Matt said you just needed to ask to go along. Shows how much I know about dressage, despite being on a dressage yard LOL. Have you qualified for the regionals now too? That's great if you have, really well done!
 
I think some people have got the wrong end of the stick, if someone disagrees with the fact it is the headpiece then they should be entitiled to their opinion, because i would say 99% of problems with horses are to do with horses lacking confidence in their riders and they then try to take control of the situation, i used to work in a racing yard and was often told,'get hold of the bloody thing' because at the time i was nervous of this particular horse, but in hindsight it was true. If your having to lunge your horse everyday before you get on it etc its beause your nervous, and horses know it... im not having a go because i have been in this situation myself.
 
Why do people feel the need to be so nasty and belittling? Its unnecessary and makes this forum a very unpleasant place to be.

The arguments about scientific evidence and pseudo-science are valid and interesting. But the personal attacks and innuendo are not.

(using QR - not aimed at MM)
 
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The arguments about scientific evidence and pseudo-science are valid and interesting. But the personal attacks and innuendo are not.

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The justification is.......muppets are willing to pay.

Pure and simple.

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well this 'muppet' as you have so politly called me was willing to pay. Its my money i can do what the hell i want with it.

I stepped away from this post as as usual people were personally attacking me, but im fed up of all this crap that i get from certain members.

Hes my horse, i can do what i bl00dy want with him. I was simply posting a report about what had happened, numerous people asked me how i got on with it so i wanted to reply to be HELPFUL - thats what the forum is about, not lodging personal attacks on people.

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And Im sure I have pointed out to you before that not everything is about YOU Tempi.

Someone asked a simple question about how the cost of these items could be justified.....I just gave the honest answer.

You may not like it but thats not really my problem is it?
 
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And Im sure I have pointed out to you before that not everything is about YOU Tempi.


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Ah but you DID call Tempi a muppet and everyone else who has ever purchased a magnet type product.
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Never realised muppets were so common.
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I also feel I must point out that you gave an answer (as you see it), not necessarily THE answer. That I believe was 'Deep Thought'
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Is this really necessary all this??.
Honestly, why is it some of you love winding Tempi up?
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probably not...
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but she doesn't half set herself up for it though......
 
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No offence but PMSL!!
Top 45 after what winning one thing which was not even a national competition like Badminton 4/5yo or Young Dressage horse.
I love reading what crap you will write next.

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PMSL......CLASSIC.
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JM why are you always so ready to have a dig at someone?

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where have i had a dig???

i've laughed at a couple of comments, mentioned i wouldnt waste money on such products and replied that this thread is probably unfair......


so WHERE am i having a dig??

i could mention a few who are...but i suppose it guilt by association eh MM???
 
I am planning on being one of the "muppets" who is planning to spend money on a headpiece (
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) but I agree there is no 'scientific evidence' to say magnetic therapy works but you could say that about a lot of 'alternative therapy' when it first starts out.

I think as long as there is no harm to the horse or rider then there shouldn't be a backlash for using or recommending a product - if it works for them (whatever the reason) then that's surely a good thing?
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