Manège without planning

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

I really do wonder how many times OP's friend has asked the neighbour what he is doing, every time he does something on his own land. I can think of several farmers who would have somewhat embellished their plans just for the benefit of troublesome neighbours and spent a long time laughing about the consternation caused.

 

[Coblette]

Just to add the ‘neighbour’ is new and renting the field from a farmer

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

Just to add the ‘neighbour’ is new and renting the field from a farmer

In that case, I imagine the panic is about nothing at all. Who is going to spend thousands of pounds putting an arena on someone else's land?

 

[Coblette]

In that case, I imagine the panic is about nothing at all. Who is going to spend thousands of pounds putting an arena on someone else's land?

Yes that’s what I thought but they’ve already spent thousands on fencing the whole field in post and rail and stables are arriving imminently apparently

 

[bubsqueaks]

Just to add the ‘neighbour’ is new and renting the field from a farmer

If I were your friend I would speak to the farmer directly & friendly about his concerns asap.

 

[ycbm]

Yes that’s what I thought but they’ve already spent thousands on fencing the whole field in post and rail and stables are arriving imminently apparently

That sounds very much like the farmer has sold the field but doesn't want to tell anyone. I think your friend is right to be worried, this is how people start when they intend to end up in 10 or whatever years time with a house on the site.

They need a few sheep, permission for a barn for the sheep, wait 10 years and they then have automatic right to convert the barn to residential (with some exceptions like National Parks).
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[Pearlsacarolsinger]

That sounds very much like the farmer has sold the field but doesn't want to tell anyone. I think your friend is right to be worried, this is how people start when they intend to end up in 10 or whatever years time with a house on the site.

They need a few sheep, permission for a barn for the sheep, wait 10 years and they then have automatic right to convert the barn to residential (with some exceptions like National Parks).
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But putting in a manege would be counter productive in that scenario. If they really are intending to put up stables, I would be more concerned about the lack of PP for that.

 

[bubsqueaks]

But putting in a manege would be counter productive in that scenario.

As others have said above its a well know route around planning laws for the unscrupulous!

 

[YorksG]

As others have said above its a well know route around planning laws for the unscrupulous!

Not the school, in fact agri use is a better route,

 

[meleeka]

Yes that’s what I thought but they’ve already spent thousands on fencing the whole field in post and rail and stables are arriving imminently apparently

Someone close to me has just spent approx £20k on stables and fencing for a field that is on a DIY yard that they rent. They aren’t mobile stables either. Nobody has told them that everyone who’s ever rented the field has left because of the trouble they’ve had with the YM ?

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

As others have said above its a well know route around planning laws for the unscrupulous!

Have you ever heard of anyone who has managed to turn a manege into a house? I certainly haven't. The usual route is put up a building and eventually turn it into a house.
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[Polos Mum]

If you want a house on land then sheep are the way to go - definitely not horses.
You need to keep it agricultural land, sheep for 10 years then you need a dwelling to be able to look after them at lambing. You get an agtie but that can be removed later down the line.

In our village the local farmer has just put up a five double en-suite massive house for his 6 acres of sheep (previously looked after for 4 weeks of the year from a static caravan on site), It's a Sheppard croft apparently but I'd bet my arm in another 4-5 years its for sale as a normal residential property.