Manica tear injury

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Has anyone had any experience of this. Vet described it as “Digital Ultrasound Re-Examination Scan revealed tear to manica below fetlock on medial aspect. Adv probably sustained in pen and may be related to adhesions from original injury.”

Original injury was with the straight sesamoid ligament which has healed nicely.

If so, what was treatment, prognosis etc?
 
I don't, so am no use there, but I feel how disheartened you sound at times so thought you might like a positive story from a bad injury.

My sisters horse was found completely non-weight bearing in the field. A tiny cut was observed over the superficial flexor tendon above the hock. Level of lameness was disproportionate to the wound. Anyways, over the next two weeks the tendon sheath became badly infected and went septic and the tendon on the scan was a mass of squiggles instead of nicely aligned fibres. It was an absolute mess. Vets said PTS as she would never be a riding horse. But my sister persisted and they tried tourniquet around the infected tendon and injecting antibiotics directly into it. The horse then came home after 2 weeks in hospital and went straight into a small pen in the field, then from there onto a track turnout. She rested her for about 18 months, then came back into work with long slow inhand walks ponied from another horse.

The horse is now back to canter work both out hacking and in the school and is working really well. She is happy out on the track with BBP, they run and play together and have a great life. You can see a light restriction in the stride but she is happy and willing. She may not become a jumping horse, my sister has had to put those aspirations away, but she has is a very happy horse including in her ridden work. For a PTD tendon injury, its a pretty happy story. I wish you all the best with boggle, BBP and I have also gone through our share of issues (and are currently) so I know the frustrations of giving up on dreams you had held on to. For me, I just enjoy his company, and everything we get to do together is a bonus.

Hopefully you get more helpful replies from people who have had the same issues.
 
Yes my TB did something to his manica. Swelling in a hind leg around fetlock.They couldn't find anything on a contrast x ray so assumed it was the manica that was the problem. Sent scans to NEH and they were of the same opinion. Turned away in small pen as box rest not really an option for this horse. Happened in June and was cantering again in November. Sorry I'm a bit vague as it was over 5 years ago. Unfortunately horse is now retired as I could never get him right but he did come sound after this injury for a while and it was something else that went wrong to cause the retirement. Good luck
 
Yes I have mentioned Millie's last injury before, that was the manica flexora and she did it in the field dicking about (I saw it happen :( ) she did have the surgery as the leg was insured. I was very very worried about the GA as she had previously reacted badly to the pre meds but their anaesthetist talked me through all the precautions so we went for it.

it was worth it clinically, when they called me when she was in recovery they said that there was more of a mess than was expected from the scan and it was unlikely that it would have recovered without the op. Vet thought that it would have settled, she would have come back into work and then something that was floating around in there would have got aggravated and she'd be back to square one again. So I felt that I had made the right decision to give her the best chance of long term soundness.

She had HA jab a few days after coming home which was horrible, made her really quite lame but apparently that was normal, bit of bute and it settled. She had a fairly standard recovery and it wasn't too long before she could start stable sized pen turnout again (groundhog day, I'd done 4 bouts of that by then for various things) and then normal sort of rehab. She did still have adhesions, which I have previously mentioned, that loosened off when she started canter work. She did come back to full competition work (competing AM, working PSG) but reinjured a while later at which point I retired her - early 20s having had a good few injuries and a busy life, I just felt she had done her time and I didn't have the heart to keep trying with her.

She is sound as a pound living out in the field now ;)
 
Thanks MP. Can you recall cost of op? And who did it?




milliepops said:
Yes I have mentioned Millie's last injury before, that was the manica flexora and she did it in the field dicking about (I saw it happen :( ) she did have the surgery as the leg was insured. I was very very worried about the GA as she had previously reacted badly to the pre meds but their anaesthetist talked me through all the precautions so we went for it.

it was worth it clinically, when they called me when she was in recovery they said that there was more of a mess than was expected from the scan and it was unlikely that it would have recovered without the op. Vet thought that it would have settled, she would have come back into work and then something that was floating around in there would have got aggravated and she'd be back to square one again. So I felt that I had made the right decision to give her the best chance of long term soundness.

She had HA jab a few days after coming home which was horrible, made her really quite lame but apparently that was normal, bit of bute and it settled. She had a fairly standard recovery and it wasn't too long before she could start stable sized pen turnout again (groundhog day, I'd done 4 bouts of that by then for various things) and then normal sort of rehab. She did still have adhesions, which I have previously mentioned, that loosened off when she started canter work. She did come back to full competition work (competing AM, working PSG) but reinjured a while later at which point I retired her - early 20s having had a good few injuries and a busy life, I just felt she had done her time and I didn't have the heart to keep trying with her.

She is sound as a pound living out in the field now ;)
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Michen said:
Thanks MP. Can you recall cost of op? And who did it?
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sorry I have checked and I don't seem to have the invoices anywhere, I think it must have been before they started emailing them and I have chucked the paper copies. I use Three Counties Equine Hospital at Tewkesbury. Was comfortably within our 5k limit including all diagnostics etc, we deliberately kept the costs down a bit in case she needed anything else so I did lots of the dressing changes etc myself.
 
milliepops said:
sorry I have checked and I don't seem to have the invoices anywhere, I think it must have been before they started emailing them and I have chucked the paper copies. I use Three Counties Equine Hospital at Tewkesbury. Was comfortably within our 5k limit including all diagnostics etc, we deliberately kept the costs down a bit in case she needed anything else so I did lots of the dressing changes etc myself.
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Thanks. X
 
Not manica, but my horse had a ddft injury at fetlock level and then an adhesion ruptured. She had an operation, which I would have thought would be similar. The op cost just under £3000 I think. She wasn't insured and the vets were really good about keeping the cost down. She wasn't very lame so we waited until another horse needed the same surgeon to save a bit too. This was November 2017.
Surgeon said she would never have come sound without op. She is now in full work and fingers crossed will have years ahead of us
 
Hazel damaged the near fore annular ligament and manica landing awkwardly over a jump the annular ligament surgery was a quite long process but the manica was longer she spent about 8 months not allowed to move even for a pick of grass for almost all that time had regular scans and bandaging she made a full recover after a while she started to go intermittantly lame so we let her have a foal after the foal she came back into full work and was never lame again it was 17 years ago cost £1200 and was done at Oakham veterinary Equine She is 24 now and very rarely is a bit stiff when the weather changes but still working normally
 
BBP said:
I don't, so am no use there, but I feel how disheartened you sound at times so thought you might like a positive story from a bad injury.

My sisters horse was found completely non-weight bearing in the field. A tiny cut was observed over the superficial flexor tendon above the hock. Level of lameness was disproportionate to the wound. Anyways, over the next two weeks the tendon sheath became badly infected and went septic and the tendon on the scan was a mass of squiggles instead of nicely aligned fibres. It was an absolute mess. Vets said PTS as she would never be a riding horse. But my sister persisted and they tried tourniquet around the infected tendon and injecting antibiotics directly into it. The horse then came home after 2 weeks in hospital and went straight into a small pen in the field, then from there onto a track turnout. She rested her for about 18 months, then came back into work with long slow inhand walks ponied from another horse.

The horse is now back to canter work both out hacking and in the school and is working really well. She is happy out on the track with BBP, they run and play together and have a great life. You can see a light restriction in the stride but she is happy and willing. She may not become a jumping horse, my sister has had to put those aspirations away, but she has is a very happy horse including in her ridden work. For a PTD tendon injury, its a pretty happy story. I wish you all the best with boggle, BBP and I have also gone through our share of issues (and are currently) so I know the frustrations of giving up on dreams you had held on to. For me, I just enjoy his company, and everything we get to do together is a bonus.

Hopefully you get more helpful replies from people who have had the same issues.
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Thanks BBP, I'm sorry to read you are also having a tough time with yours :( xx
 
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