Mark Rashid Aibado Clinic

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Ok huge disclaimed here. I have never done any martial arts. I am a rank beginner now trying to make sense of what I learned at the clinic and share it here. So some may feel I should shut up and not spread my inevitably limited and possibly entirely mistaken impression of this. In fact Mark himself has not written a book on Aibado saying it is something that should be experienced and taught face to face so he can correct people and achieve the right ‘feel’.

BUT, BUT, BUT rank beginners do go to classes like this and are then let loose on their horses! So if these clinics are to be meaningful then I should have picked up at least something of some value. Plus people only know about these clinics because other people tell them about them. Mark himself writes about his own Aikido journey and some of the confusion he has experienced.

And as you all know I share all elements of my horsey journey. Though in this case it is less a ‘journey’ and more a detour up a bewildering set of alleys with glimpses of magic along the way but very little sense of how to navigate this world. So I will write a report but remember these are just my impressions. Instead of trying to explain what it all ‘means’ I am just going to describe what Mark said (to the best of my recollection) and what I felt. And if anyone is interested beyond that then I guess you need to go to a clinic.

'Aiba' means ‘Coming Together With Horses’ or ‘For the Love of Horses' (depending on the symbol used to depict the word) and 'do' means The Way. Hence Aibado: The Way of Blending With Horses.

Day 1: I would sum up the focus of day 1 with the word ‘Down weighting’. Mark said riders hold lots of tension in shoulders, elbows. If these are stiff then soft hands are not possible. You need to ‘down weight’ which sounds as simple as relaxing but isn’t. There were exercises to ‘down weight’ that I can do but can’t describe. All I can say is that if a person rested their hand on mine and asked me to resist downward pressure and then ‘down weighted’ it was a very clear feeling and did NOT involve any pressure or force from muscles. They could press on my hands with considerable force and I would easily be able to resist the pressure then they would ‘down weight’ and my hands would be moving down and I would not really know why. And the same thing happened when my partner and I swapped and I was alternating pressing with down weighting. Down weighting was used a lot throughout the rest of the clinic to move people around. Pressing was easy to resist. Down weighting wasn’t.

I could have 3 people on each hand and I could try and pull them off balance and not move them at all then down weight my hands and just bring them together. And everyone would just move and it was easy. I experienced this both as the person with 6 people trying to resist me and as 1 of the 6. I cannot begin to explain how or why this works. There was something I think about the feel of this: pressing makes you want to brace, down weighting makes you want to yield. But it was not quite that simple because it was impossible NOT to yield. Especially when MR laid hands on me! So it was partly a choice to go with the softness down-weighting created but not just that I don’t think.

I have used ‘down weighting’ with Deedee and Amber and both responded very well so far. They move readily when I move them with this ‘feel’ instead of bracing against a press. Deedee has been a little tricky to bridle since we have had her, and I have been teaching her to drop her head with pressure/release. But today I rested my hand on her poll, down-weighted and she dropped her head calmly for bridling.

Day 2

Centering/Grounding.

We did an exercise to centre ourselves and then did various exercises on balance, resisting movement etc either from centre or not. And the experience was of being much more powerful and stable from centre. Mark said people are often up in their heads and so are ‘off centre’. This is both physically and emotionally. So being centred/grounded means you are more stable and balanced physically and more emotionally neutral/calm if something unexpected happens. The imagery is being the ‘eye of the storm’. With horses you connect and instead of blocking or bracing you blend with what is happening and direct the energy. We practiced this idea with people coming at you as if to punch and blending with them then redirecting them. I consciously centred myself before getting on Amber and did feel a little more ‘solid’ in the saddle’ and less ‘thrown about’ but I might be imagining it! I might try and video canter from centre and not and see if anything looks different.

Day 3.

Softness within Structure.

Horses are big, strong animals so pitting muscle against muscle is not a good idea. The first touch or connection with your horse will result in a brace or in softness. If you generate a brace then you have to use quite a bit of effort to then overcome that brace. If you generate softness then the horse will willingly go with your ideas! But you then have to fill the softness created with clear direction (structure). If you are just soft without being structured you won't be effective. We practiced this in pairs, focusing on the feel of that initial contact. Again it was easy to feel an urge to brace and easy to feel an urge to yield but not at all easy to work out why. But I did not overthink it – just went with it.

I have used this just asking Deedee to move over in the stable etc. Really thinking about the quality of that first touch and almost breathing her over rather than pushing her over! It is very different to pressure/release to teach a horse to yield. With pressure/release I am asking her to move and then rewarding her moving with an immediate release. So in effect I am teaching her what I want which is to yield to pressure. And even though the ‘pressure’ can be feather light or even can just be body language – it is still pressure. But with softness within structure it seems to be that there is no pressure or release. There is just guiding or directing energy/movement. Like dancing. Though this is not something Mark said – just my own musings.

So that’s it. Not sure what I make of it. Not sure if I will seek out more of this. Not sure how much I will use these ideas longer term. But it was a very interesting (if slightly 'out there') experience and 3 days with Mark Rashid and Crissie is never a bad way to spend your time!
 
If you have read any of the books of the great masters of equestrianism all these ideas are not new, it’s wether it’s explained in away the average person can understand.
I have to say I am always suspicious of people selling a personality or a brand, but I have heard worse and read some absolute trash that is spouted as a new method.
I think every trainer should be careful about promoting their method if in translation it could be to the detriment to the horse.
 
Well I'm intrigued, at least. I recognise some of the concepts, but it's certainly a novel... packaging (cynical) or possibly explanatory framework (less cynical!). I'd be interested to see it done (but he'd probably get a punch in the face if he tried to "lay hands" on me :p ).
 
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I have to say I am always suspicious of people selling a personality or a brand, but I have heard worse and read some absolute trash that is spouted as a new method.
I think every trainer should be careful about promoting their method if in translation it could be to the detriment to the horse.
This with bells and whistles on.

ETA Though thanks for the account, OP.

Also this clinic was hosted at the NH type yard that booted an HHOers elderly horse off without notice, wasn’t it. Which is nothing to do with Mark Rashid himself but does colour ones views of the whole set up.
 
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Also this clinic was hosted at the NH type yard that booted an HHOers elderly horse off without notice, wasn’t it. Which is nothing to do with Mark Rashid himself but does colour ones views of the whole set up.

Yes it was. And yes it did. Very much so. As you say nothing to do with Mark and Crissie but I will not be going back to that yard for any future events.
 
Thank you for taking the time to share. It is interesting and I think a good thing if someone can find a way of explaining that others can access. It is intriguing to take concepts from martial arts and apply it to working with horses. It sounds like you have gained another few tools for your toolbox and that is no bad thing.
 
Thank you for sharing AE.

I saw the clinic advertised and swithered for a long time. I do want to learn and I especially would like first hand experience of MR's teaching but I am an uptight, self conscious, paranoid lump so what I imagined the clinic to be (touching ramdoms and a bit "hippy") put me off. I'd prefer to spectate over participate.

However your report is very interesting. There's nothing new under the sun with horsemanship but there are always new ways of sharing the information and I do like MR's way from what I have read and seen of him.

Thanks again
 
Thx for posting and taking the time to give your take on the session. Out of interest, why did you decide to go? It sounds quite different to me but hope it’s given you some useful tools.

I did a few Mary wanless clinics and I really liked how she explained things and broke down the fundamentals. But after 3/4 of them and never getting out of trot, I felt perhaps it was looking for too much perfection (or I was a hopeless case!) but I think it’s helped me over time.
 
I saw the clinic advertised and swithered for a long time. I do want to learn and I especially would like first hand experience of MR's teaching but I am an uptight, self conscious, paranoid lump so what I imagined the clinic to be (touching ramdoms and a bit "hippy") put me off. I'd prefer to spectate over participate.

Sometimes when you post, I wonder if we are the same person, split in two and grown in some ghastly lab culture experiment to be released into the world as separate entities...
 
Sometimes when you post, I wonder if we are the same person, split in two and grown in some ghastly lab culture experiment to be released into the world as separate entities...

Aww, that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me 😊
 
Again another person marketing common horse sense to the masses, honestly why do people fall for this ‘packaging’ of things you should already know when working with horses? Of course you are not going to have soft hand with braces upper body, of course putting muscle against muscle is not going work as pound for pound your beaten.

wouldn’t waste my time or my money on it. I have one of the softest, most chilled, accepting and most obedient yearlings many people have have seen and it’s all through patience and consistent handling.

Wasnt through a technique or rocket science.
 
Again another person marketing common horse sense to the masses, honestly why do people fall for this ‘packaging’ of things you should already know when working with horses? Of course you are not going to have soft hand with braces upper body, of course putting muscle against muscle is not going work as pound for pound your beaten.

wouldn’t waste my time or my money on it. I have one of the softest, most chilled, accepting and most obedient yearlings many people have have seen and it’s all through patience and consistent handling.

Wasnt through a technique or rocket science.

🙄 hes not marketing anything...

There is no "programme" to buy or step by step "how to" books. He literally only holds clinics when there is a demand and that demand is there because he is an amazing horseman and, helpfully, a good teacher.

Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion but it takes very little effort in this day and age to at least make it a semi-informed opinion.
 
🙄 hes not marketing anything...

There is no "programme" to buy or step by step "how to" books. He literally only holds clinics when there is a demand and that demand is there because he is an amazing horseman and, helpfully, a good teacher.

Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion but it takes very little effort in this day and age to at least make it a semi-informed opinion.

Really so this clinic was free was it?

yes it is my opinion and yes it is quite informed thanks for the compliment :) you can read things and watch things and just think hmmmm money making or hmmmm that’s interesting. I tend to find things more interesting and real from people who don’t make their living travelling around the country selling a ‘product’ but hey whatever floats your boat at the end of the day ;)
 
Fail to understand your issue with paying for a service? I must have missed out on all those excellent trainers travelling around teaching for free 🤔

Unless hologram technology has progressed rapidly in the past year I'm pretty certain that Mark Rashid is a real person.

The fact that demand for his teaching is such that he travels out of his home state and country. Key word demand; hes not knocking on doors trying to sell snake oil.

Your reply only highlights your ignorance not to mention your rudeness to AE implying that she is somehow a gullible fool to have been taken in by some scheme to rob her of her money. Mark Rashid is a very well known horseman and your lack of awareness is a reflection on you not those who seek him out.

AE has my admiration for constantly seeking out excellent horsemen to learn from (Guy Robertson and Tik Maynard to name just two of the reports that she has posted) and I'm sure that I'm not alone in being grateful that she takes the time to post about what she has learnt.

Given you're the same poster always complaining about the lack of "likes" and replies to your posts perhaps now would be a good time for some self evaluation before criticising others as you so frequently do.
 
Fail to understand your issue with paying for a service? I must have missed out on all those excellent trainers travelling around teaching for free 🤔

Unless hologram technology has progressed rapidly in the past year I'm pretty certain that Mark Rashid is a real person.

The fact that demand for his teaching is such that he travels out of his home state and country. Key word demand; hes not knocking on doors trying to sell snake oil.

Your reply only highlights your ignorance not to mention your rudeness to AE implying that she is somehow a gullible fool to have been taken in by some scheme to rob her of her money. Mark Rashid is a very well known horseman and your lack of awareness is a reflection on you not those who seek him out.

AE has my admiration for constantly seeking out excellent horsemen to learn from (Guy Robertson and Tik Maynard to name just two of the reports that she has posted) and I'm sure that I'm not alone in being grateful that she takes the time to post about what she has learnt.

I am proud to have shared a petri dish with you!

All of this. I haven't seen MR teach this, but I've read some of his early books and seen some of his early teaching (before this branding / conceptualisation). He's a horseman with whom I would love to train. The only reason I'm not all over these clinics is my own hang ups - I'd be jumping up and down for a ridden one (with a red ribbon plaited in my hair to warn him off any unexpected touching!). If this is a re-branding of old ideas... Well so what, if it works, and educates and help people to be better horsemen. If it doesn't, well you've not lost any more than a little time and money to experiment - and I'd damn well rather throw my money at MR than the local AIs I encounter who are the same old incompetence (around here, at least - maybe there's a better breed of them somewhere, but I've yet to meet them!).

I'm not sure why paying for training is somehow a bad thing now. All over this forum are experienced, sensible posters advising novice owners to seek out as much training as they can afford. There's no shame, or horror in it - even the best horsemen are still learning. If people can't travel around and share their expertise, the whole system will stagnate and the only ones who will suffer will be the horses. Good training is the foundation of good horsemanship - and good training is largely about being open to new ideas and new ways of doing things. That's not accepting any old idea, but you do have to engage with it enough to understand it before you dismiss it out of hand.
 
I'm not sure why paying for training is somehow a bad thing now. All over this forum are experienced, sensible posters advising novice owners to seek out as much training as they can afford. There's no shame, or horror in it - even the best horsemen are still learning.

when all is said and done, pretty much all "standard" training ideas are old news. Mere mortals like us still need professionals to help us learn, interpret and put them into practice though. I wish I could learn to train my dressage horses just by watching videos and reading things... before I had the option to actually get out for lessons that is all I could do and it's a bloody slow and difficult way to try and learn when you have to teach the horse too ;) much easier (and more fun) to get some instruction in person.

I probably wouldn't have attended the clinic AE describes, but I'm def interested to hear about it . because I think the best way to form your own ideas and to learn how to work out who is worth listening to in the world of professional horse training, is to take an interest in all kinds of different things and then sift out what you want to know more about.
 
I wish I could learn to train my dressage horses just by watching videos and reading things... before I had the option to actually get out for lessons that is all I could do and it's a bloody slow and difficult way to try and learn when you have to teach the horse too ;) much easier (and more fun) to get some instruction in person.

I did that for years too. I got a fair way (more than many folk get with regular training, anyway - bloody clever pony), but the finer points, the bits that involve feel and tact and that indefinable, indescribable quality that makes dressage more than just a series of gymnastic exercises - they're all infinitely improved by good eyes on the ground. And the more eyes, the more perspectives there are, the more chance you'll find what you need, unless you've already found the system you're happy with, and even then sometimes you need a shake up...
 
couldn't agree more :)
I'd never have got Millie's changes without help, we really did get stuck with that. and Kira's super speedy progress up the dressage ladder is definitely down to very regular help on the ground. It was only in the last 18 months or so that we started doing stuff that I haven't done before but getting the early stuff better, quicker, was worth it.
I love it when you find a new trainer that helps something else drop into place. I am looking forward to some clinics next year with a couple of people who supplement my regular lessons really well.
 
I'd never have got Fergs' changes if I hadn't ditched (politely!) my regular dressage trainers and taken some really outside the box training. Not because my regular trainers weren't excellent, they just didn't have what he needed, or what I needed at that point (and I sure as hell didn't have it either!).

The right trainer, at the right time, is a very individual and variable thing, but it's the most useful thing you can possibly have :D
 
Thx for posting and taking the time to give your take on the session. Out of interest, why did you decide to go? It sounds quite different to me but hope it’s given you some useful tools.

Several reasons I guess. I have always liked Mark Rashid - I love his books and I have been to a couple of ridden clinics as a spectator. At one of them he got the spectators doing some of the Aikido exercises and they were interesting to use but I was not sure how to translate them into work with horse. So I read Nature in Horsemanship which talks about Aikido but, as with all his books, it is more a story than a 'how to'.

Plus I am interested in mindfulness practices but am too restless for sitting meditation so I thought I'd enjoy a physical approach that is also mindful.

Also I am interested in multiple different approaches and like playing around with them before deciding if they are something I can use bits of or are not really for me. I enjoy my regular lessons which provide some consistency but I also like finding out about different things. This was definitely different!
 
This was a very interesting read, thanks for posting. It is many years since I attended a MR clinic and he has changed his methodology since then (pre martial arts), but I do like him as a horseman.
 
Thanks for the write up - really interesting.

Just for the cynics, I've been to an MR clinic as a spectator, and one of the things that stood out for me was where he was explaining that what he was showing us was his horsemanship. We wouldn't be able to go home and replicate it, because we're different people with different experiences and dealing with different horses. We'd be practising our own horsemanship, but he hoped that what we'd seen would give us ideas and ways of thinking that would help our approach. Very different to the snake oil and horsemanship by numbers being sold by some people.
 
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