Marshmallow fluff as fake saliva

[ester]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=241057618050216&id=108297121326267

Hopefully the above link works, it was posted in Pammy Hutton/HM's group this morning
Definitely didn't know that was a thing!

 

[Meowy Catkin]

Wow! I hope the rule banning it goes through.

 

[LadyGascoyne]

How completely bizarre.

 

[Berpisc]

Bonkers, really.

 

[Cortez]

Yep. It used to be toothpaste, weird the things people will do to get out of riding properly.

 

[shortstuff99]

Eurodressage has done a few articles on this. She also says CDJ used it.

 

[PurBee]

I’d come across this before here and there…didnt really know the why’s of this practice…think its mainly a USA thing?

I naively thought it was to give the horse a sweet taste/treat while working to aid its association with the work with something ‘good’ - when the true reason is to hide mouth contact blemishes and mimic saliva foaming.

 

[ester]

Eurodressage has done a few articles on this. She also says CDJ used it.

I do mostly avoid what she says.

 

[shortstuff99]

I do mostly avoid what she says.

It does seem to have become a bit Dressage Hub ish in some of the recent articles she has written.

 

[ester]

Yep. It used to be toothpaste, weird the things people will do to get out of riding properly.

was that toothpaste to look like saliva or to generate it.

(My sister did use toothpaste on the brush to get F to do me a painting, I'm not sure it helped much ?. She included a photo with said painting as evidence.

 

[ester]

It does seem to have become a bit Dressage Hub ish in some of the recent articles she has written.

I forgot they were different lol, shall have a bit more of a read around. I didn't actually know marshmallow fluff existed so.....

 

[Cortez]

was that toothpaste to look like saliva or to generate it.

(My sister did use toothpaste on the brush to get F to do me a painting, I'm not sure it helped much ?. She included a photo with said painting as evidence.

To look like foam. I first saw a rider applying it in the US, and innocently asked what he was doing....

 

[stangs]

I do mostly avoid what she says.

Why?

 

[ester]

see post #11.

 

[Mule]

Would at least taste better than toothpaste ?

 

[Bernster]

Bizarre, it’s bonkers what some folk get up in the name of sport!

 

[stangs]

see post #11.

What's wrong with Dressage Hub? I watch their videos every once in a while and they seem fine.

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

Sorry I’m not understanding the why?? Why do you want to make your horse look like it’s foaming at the mouth??

I could understand if it’s to encourage a horse to salivate but other than that I’m a bit ?

 

[Mule]

Sorry I’m not understanding the why?? Why do you want to make your horse look like it’s foaming at the mouth??

I understand it’s to encourage a horse to salivate but other than that I’m a bit ?

Apparently it's to cover up contact problems. I don't know if that is because the judges can't see the mouth because of the marshmallow or if the sweet taste distracts the horse from whatever it does with its mouth

 

[milliepops]

What's wrong with Dressage Hub? I watch their videos every once in a while and they seem fine.

there's a reasonable summary here. https://www.chronofhorse.com/article/dont-feed-the-trolls

 

[Cortez]

Sorry I’m not understanding the why?? Why do you want to make your horse look like it’s foaming at the mouth??

I could understand if it’s to encourage a horse to salivate but other than that I’m a bit ?

Because a little foam shows that the horse is relaxed in the contact and therefore decontracted throughout its body; it's only when the horse is relaxed through the poll and jaw that saliva can flow, which then appears around the lips as foam.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Yes, I've known about this for a long time, but I've never used it. Never will.

My horse hates foam/saliva on his lips and/or dripping from his mouth. The moment you give him the reins and take a break he's trying to lick his lips and otherwise get rid of it (sometimes with a head flick). Idk if other horses are like this, and I understand mine is a bit "different" ?

 

[ester]

What's wrong with Dressage Hub? I watch their videos every once in a while and they seem fine.

Did you read post 11? I got them confused! Nothing more than that, bit of a weird tangent to be sticking on.

 

[Goldenstar]

It’s easier to train them .

 

[Orangehorse]

But too much foam is bad - it means that the glands are compressed and the horse is tense - according to Dr. Deb Bennett who is an authority on horse anatomy and the correct way to ride and train a horse. I noticed in the Olympics that you don't see the horses dripping with foam that was evident some years ago.

I know that giving a horse a Polo mint is supposed to be a good thing!

 

[milliepops]

I give a sugar lump when tacking up to anything prone to a dry mouth. No ridiculous froth, just encourages them to chew the bit and relax before you get started.

 

[Cortez]

But too much foam is bad - it means that the glands are compressed and the horse is tense - according to Dr. Deb Bennett who is an authority on horse anatomy and the correct way to ride and train a horse. I noticed in the Olympics that you don't see the horses dripping with foam that was evident some years ago.

I know that giving a horse a Polo mint is supposed to be a good thing!

I happen to know Dr. Bennet (many, many years ago), and while she has conducted some very good research on nutrition and bone development, among other subjects, she is not by any means “an authority” on how to ride or train horses.

 

[Lois Lame]

Yes, too much foam is bad. But I wouldn't call Deb Bennett an expert.

ETA: You beat mne to it, Cortez. (This laptop of my husbands is a useless machine)

 

[Jellymoon]

I had always been told a bit of foam is a good thing, shows they are accepting the contact with a nice soft mouth, but then I heard that the foam is due to the horse not being able to swallow properly with a bit in its mouth and a tight noseband. Anyone also heard this?

 

[Lois Lame]

There's all sorts of things one hears.

ETA: [Rushes back from kitchen where the frying pan is roasting hot, waiting for the mince] Those crank nosebands are shocking though. Not a fan. Heck knows what they might be responsible for.