Me again - Unfixed Portable - Petition

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If you are as concerned as I am about this potentially lethal hidden danger on xc courses, both schooling courses and unaffiliated courses, please go to

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petition...gerousxcfences

sign, and spread the word. There have been over 9,000 views of this thread... we must be able to get half of that number on the petition, just for starters.

Thanks to moody_mare for creating the petition.
 
Dont forget it is easy to spread the word about this petition using the tweet & like buttons at the bottom of the thread.

Before seeing that terrible video I had no idea how dangerous this issue was, thanks Kerilli and others for raising awareness and hopefully saving some lives.
 
Will certainly sign the petition, but wondering who are you petitioning against? Or who is this petition being sent to? Assuming they are banned, how and who would police the ban at unaffiliated venues. I understand it'd be easier to police them at BE venues, but for example at my yard where we have XC open days (never comps, just schooling) open to the public who would check that our YO had safe jumps? FWIW I don't believe any of our jumps are portable - just using it as an example.

I'm sure these questions have already been considered, and it may just be that the wording on the petition needs some explanation to answer these questions.

Another thought. Are you actually asking for the jumps to be banned all together or that portable jumps are secured properly? Sorry to be a pedant, but the wording in the petition needs to much clearer. A total ban - ie never to be used - would ultimately represent loss of work for the businesses who make them and therefore jobs. What I think you're really petitioning for is ensuring that portable fences are always properly secured to the ground so the accidents in the vid Kerrilli posted cannot happen. Hence my initial question about 'policing'.

*Ludi-doodi shuffles off her pedants soapbox*
 
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I am really concerned about this issue and stupidly only thought of fatal accidents occuring over huge xc fences. After watching that clip and then reading up on the associated links I was horrified to hear of a child killed over a 2ft3 fence - what I am jumping at the minute with my not very athletic cob.
I think these portables should be securely held down and it is that that is the aspect which needs policing - how they do this i don't know. At places like the one Ludi Doodi mentioned, as it is a permanent xc course, I think an inspection once a season would be enough, mainly to check any new fences.
Also looking forward to hearing more about the exo - like prototype.
 
MrsMozart said:
I've signed and done the Facebook share thingy.

Do you mind if I put the link and your comment on our website, talkingofhorses.co.uk?
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please go ahead MrsM, the more people hear about this, the better. If there's one thing that's been repeated on this thread it has been "i had no idea"...

I've emailed the photographer at BM to ask whether he will be kind enough to let us use his pictures for this campaign, particularly the photos of the corner flipping... if not, maybe we can have a whip-round to pay for them (anyone fancy donating a £1 through paypal?!) so that we have them as evidence too...
 
Ludi-doodi said:
Will certainly sign the petition, but wondering who are you petitioning against? Or who is this petition being sent to? Assuming they are banned, how and who would police the ban at unaffiliated venues. I understand it'd be easier to police them at BE venues, but for example at my yard where we have XC open days (never comps, just schooling) open to the public who would check that our YO had safe jumps? FWIW I don't believe any of our jumps are portable - just using it as an example.

I'm sure these questions have already been considered, and it may just be that the wording on the petition needs some explanation to answer these questions.

Another thought. Are you actually asking for the jumps to be banned all together or that portable jumps are secured properly? Sorry to be a pedant, but the wording in the petition needs to much clearer. A total ban - ie never to be used - would ultimately represent loss of work for the businesses who make them and therefore jobs. What I think you're really petitioning for is ensuring that portable fences are always properly secured to the ground so the accidents in the vid Kerrilli posted cannot happen. Hence my initial question about 'policing'.

*Ludi-doodi shuffles off her pedants soapbox*
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Yes, I see your point, not sure if i can ask moody_mare to alter the wording slightly. it doesn't say to ban portables, just 'unfixed portables', which is the whole point.
i guess we were thinking that a petition would spread the word and show how many people feel strongly about this, then that number can be mentioned in correspondence with comp centres, schooling venues etc... basically we need to be able to convince the doubters that these things really are a hidden danger UNLESS they're properly anchored, in which case we have no problem with them.
 
Hey- who do I PM to tell about properly fixed portables? We were at Isleham today and every portable fence was properly secured using wooden stakes- it would take a lot more than a horse to shift them!!
 
Signed. Thank you for bringing this to the forum... I for one hadn't considered the dangers, and double checked the xc fences my children jumped round today. Glad to say they were all secured.
 
Whilst i like the idea of a petition i do fear it wont work for smaller, private livery yards.
I was on such a yard with portable fences, non secured (never used them as xc scares me!) and they were big - houses, tables etc and these are being jumped by kids / teens that just gallop at them.
I know, that said owner will not go out of his way to secure them, neither will the kids bother to do it themselves.

I suppose i just worry how enforcable this will actually be :-(
 
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