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i give mine to the hunt, they come pick them up or you drop them off they shot it and give it to the hounds so it works all round i think and they are always very understanding!
can i ask why the horse is crazy?
 
bonnie93 said:
interestin thread! suppose some people couldnt imagin doin this to their horses, i would personally be one of them, my horse is my baby! but i can understand why it is an option for others.
if your horse goes to turners their legs may be used for dissections by reaseheath students, i know because i was one! :D
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I agree..... fascinating - personally wouldn't be my choice as i'm too sentimental (mums still got the ashes of her last horse sitting in a wicker basket collecting dust under the stairs - she really must put them in a hole in the paddock)

I think the OP is being very responsible and ending any future carnage - and if said pony is that much if a git, I probably wouldn't be sentimental either :-)
 
cm2581 said:
I do actually know that, I was just using it as an example!! Personally I would prefer something much slower growing, such as a highland or galloway. I wonder if slow growing horses have a better flavour than faster growing ones such as TBs?

Wish somebody in the UK would farm horses for meat to an acceptable welfare standard and without drugs deemed unsuitable for human consumption as I would quite like to try it but am concerned about the welfare issues! Hence also why I prefer to try also avoiding danish bacon, although I do unfortunately support their production systems by diagnosing their diseases at my work!
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How about a lovely British White steak? The problem with the late maturing ones is that the 30 months old rule spoils the trade - mine are nowhere mature enough at 30 months, so I have to either sell them too light or as over 30 - either way I'm losing money. I've started crossing with continentals for part bred beef.

With horse meat, it depends what sort of taste you like, if you enjoy a steak (beef) of a Belgian Blue for example, a TB will be more up your street as very lean and fast maturing, but tricky to cook well without drying out.
But for your Galloway/highland comparison, you would be better off looking at part draft breeds or heavish WB as that will have enough fat tissue for a moist roast.

Oh, dear, now I think I'm going to duck:o
 
Here we go again.

OP , why didn;t you just google Potters and then phone them up and ask for yourself what you want to know rather than start a thread like this.

If you don't want negative comments or opinions then don't post a question!
 
here we go again?
I asked for advice - got a name - asked for contact details then sharon started. if you dont like the content why dont you just go back to the lounge and forget about it?
 
OP, dont get mouthy with other users they are entitled to their opinions you could have got this info from the tinternet you didnt need to come on here and ask a question, sadly a good percentage of horse owners/riders end up with a dangerous animal because they just cant/dont know how to handle it and basically are **** scared of it, and the poor pony/horse ends up at potters (thank goodness there is a potters and a turners). RIP poor pony. I certainly wont be standing with my hands outstretched for a measly +-£100 for my beloved horse when he goes - cos he gave me good in life, so i will give him good in return and he will not have the smell of blood up his nostrils and feeling of fear from others around him when he goes.
 
The op knows that she has a responsibility to offer it a quick and humane death (presumably this is her pony). If this means sending it to an abattoir, so be it. Surely that's better than leaving it to languish in a field for years like a lot of the welfare cases we see?

ETA, if it were mine, I would send it to the hunt. Less stressful for the pony IMO.
 
TicTac...

try goggling Potters...it doesnt actually come up with Stillmans number..the one Martlin put up..as the Abattoir is owned by them..and Potters rent the Hall on a wednesday morning.

this info IS NOT available on google
 
beeswax said:
OP, dont get mouthy with other users they are entitled to their opinions you could have got this info from the tinternet you didnt need to come on here and ask a question, sadly a good percentage of horse owners/riders end up with a dangerous animal because they just cant/dont know how to handle it and basically are **** scared of it, and the poor pony/horse ends up at potters (thank goodness there is a potters and a turners). RIP poor pony. I certainly wont be standing with my hands outstretched for a measly +-£100 for my beloved horse when he goes - cos he gave me good in life, so i will give him good in return and he will not have the smell of blood up his nostrils and feeling of fear from others around him when he goes.
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I said at the beginning I didnt want opinions and i think the title of the thread is pretty obvious so ppl dont read it by accident.
I looked on net and couldnt find anything so i asked on here. I am not scared of him and i do know how to handle horses thanks - that "poor pony" could quite easily injure/kill ppl - whose life is worth more?
I would rather get 100 than nothing - I have put a lot of time and effort into this pony and he hasnt given me a good life.
 
beeswax said:
OP, dont get mouthy with other users they are entitled to their opinions you could have got this info from the tinternet you didnt need to come on here and ask a question, sadly a good percentage of horse owners/riders end up with a dangerous animal because they just cant/dont know how to handle it and basically are **** scared of it, and the poor pony/horse ends up at potters (thank goodness there is a potters and a turners). RIP poor pony. I certainly wont be standing with my hands outstretched for a measly +-£100 for my beloved horse when he goes - cos he gave me good in life, so i will give him good in return and he will not have the smell of blood up his nostrils and feeling of fear from others around him when he goes.
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and it would help if you didn't spout clap-trap as well.

***smell of blood up his nostrils***..a typical answer from someone who hasn't been inside a working Hall
 
vixann said:
here we go again?
I asked for advice - got a name - asked for contact details then sharon started. if you dont like the content why dont you just go back to the lounge and forget about it?
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Doesn't bother me but you can't expect people not to express an opinion. Surely as a responsible horse owner you should know the name of a slaughter man local to you, or ask somebody with a horse in your area etc.

You know as well as I do that these kinds of threads are always emotive, my point is you can't always expect people to agree with you. Public forum, public response!
 
vixann said:
he hasnt given me a good life.
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So he deserves the abattoir?

I agree with you that he needs to be put down. Why you feel the need to make money out of sending him through there is beyond me. Having seen the kill process in an abattoir I sure as hell wouldn't want to send one there if I could help it.
 
If a horse has to go surely the current market price per kilo is irrellavent(sp). It just has to go. I am also of the opinion that this post was unecessary.
 
TicTac said:
Doesn't bother me but you can't expect people not to express an opinion. Surely as a responsible horse owner you should know the name of a slaughter man local to you, or ask somebody with a horse in your area etc.

You know as well as I do that these kinds of threads are always emotive, my point is you can't always expect people to agree with you. Public forum, public response!
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Do YOU know your local horse abattoir?
Seeing as there are only 2 in the country...
 
TicTac said:
Doesn't bother me but you can't expect people not to express an opinion. Surely as a responsible horse owner you should know the name of a slaughter man local to you, or ask somebody with a horse in your area etc.

You know as well as I do that these kinds of threads are always emotive, my point is you can't always expect people to agree with you. Public forum, public response!
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No I do not know a local slaughter man - hope that answers your question
I usually have vet put horses down - why shouldn't I make money?
At least he isnt been shipped there from abroad
 
Being a farmerrs daughter, and now having my own flock of sheep, Im comfortable with the rearing of animals for meat, so wouldnt in theory have a problem with horse meat being farmed in the UK.
My 2 girls are exempt in their passports as Melly has had so many meds for her hocks, and seren has had bute with me when she was lame last year. However, I dont disagree with taking a horse to potters or turners if they had the right paperwork.
When you have livestock you have to accept losses, and to be honest if we had the vet to every sheep that was sick we would be bankrupt - thats what my OH's gun is for.
My horses are my babies and I would hate to think that they suffered in any way, if potters/turners were the nearest people I would use them. I spent nearly £500 on my old lads cremation, and still have him on my windowsill, but I cant afford to do that for each and every horse.
 
OP I will have my say "freedom of speech and all that", and don't tell me to ****clap trap****, "so you spent a lot of time on him oh shame well he has let you down, so now you want money for him instead no matter how you get it; maybe you are just giving him the wrong signals and from the way you have come across in this thread from the beginning i am not surprised because some of us on here have got the wrong signals.....and i have seen and read up about what happens at abbatoirs, you obviously havent otherwise you would know the name of your closest meat man who is there to clean up the MESS, yes even the mess left behind for those that are chucked out in fields, and you are entitled to do what you think is best for the pony but never say that others cannot have an opinion otherwise do not come on to a public forum. Have a good evening!! RIP poor pony
 
beeswax said:
OP I will have my say "freedom of speech and all that", and don't tell me to ****clap trap****, "so you spent a lot of time on him oh shame well he has let you down, so now you want money for him instead no matter how you get it; maybe you are just giving him the wrong signals and from the way you have come across in this thread from the beginning i am not surprised because some of us on here have got the wrong signals.....and i have seen and read up about what happens at abbatoirs, you obviously havent otherwise you would know the name of your closest meat man who is there to clean up the MESS, yes even the mess left behind for those that are chucked out in fields, and you are entitled to do what you think is best for the pony but never say that others cannot have an opinion otherwise do not come on to a public forum. Have a good evening!! RIP poor pony
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Get over yourself - poor pony? y dont u take it?
 
I'm not certain about 'giving' your pony to the hunt, I have been quoted £200 by our local hunts to come out and shoot a pony to then be fed to the hounds (clean passport) which in my opinion is alot of money. Especially as local knackerman would charge very slightly more to burn the carcass.
 
vixann said:
Is it too hard to read my opening where it said that i dont really want opinions or do ppl think this doesnt apply to them!!! lol
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this subject never fails to upset the more emotional members on this forum and i think you knew by the tone of the op that it would raise one or two negative comments. However i think most of the posters have been very supportive of your descision... This must be a terrible time for you so rather than upset yourself by reading the very few negative comments, why dont you just ignore the thread now.
 
In all honesty if i could afford another i would, i would probably end up with all that go en route to the abbatoirs. If he has got to go he has got to go at least he can't hurt himself or anyone else and i understand that, but lets not start talking about prices per kg etc okay! Disagreement finished and wounds washed off alright, chin up, i bet it is a hard decision to make at the end of the day.
 
I have bought in lambs and piglets. I look after them well, give them the best life I can then I kill them on site (they're not used to travelling in trailers so I don't think it would be kind to travel them to an abattoir) and have them butchered and they end up in my freezer. I prefer to know exactly where my meat has come from, what it has been fed, that it has been treated with compassion and dignity to the end.

I was absolutely not joking when I asked my butcher if he had experience of butchering horses. Meat animals have to be cut up in a certain way to get the sort of cuts of meat we have grown to expect. It had occurred to me that given that these poor little native foals are fetching a guinea at market it would be cheaper for me to grow quality protein by buying a couple, keeping them until they were grown and then killing them here. Weaner pigs, say GOS X, are between £45 and £65 and I have to buy in food for them.

After all, that way I would know exactly how they had been treated from the moment they came onto my property, all through their growing up and right the way to my freezer. They would never have to suffer any further indignity or trauma being passed from market to market, bullied and frightened just a quiet peaceful life in with my others until one day it's "Ooh look a big bucket of fee . . ." *curtains*

In practice although I have no qualms about dispatching lambs I've bought in - or even bred myself - and pigs I suspect that I would find ponies too difficult to part with.


So the OP sending a horse to Potters'? Good on her, gets another dangerous animal out of circulation. Prevents more posts saying "Look at this ad, I can't believe it's so cheap" when the poor thing has been sent to yet another dodgy dealer to sell because it has manmade issues. Or worse the posts saying "I've bought a horse and now it's doing XYZ and I think it's too dangerous to ride, shall I do Parelli with it."

I'm sure I remember a post several years ago now where someone had bought a horse with known problems and a family member had been killed by it. She was wondering what to do with it next:( That is a truly awful situation to be in, better to make sure that that sort of thing won't happen.

And as for sending them to Potters' - how many of you horselovers who couldn't bear to send their ponio to Potters have ever considered WHAT is in the dogfood you happily dole out to your beloved pooches? Presumably you want them to have a premium product, just as you want what is, in your opinion, the best for your horses.
 
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