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Doncella, we are fortunate in our area, as what used to be a licensed horse abbatoir, is now a 'pet crematorium'. They provide an excellent service and will travel to you to shoot and dispose of your horse, last time we used them it was about £200 for the basic service. We did not have the ashes returned. We have used them both by prebooking and in an emergency. They got to us within the hour for the emergency. I do not know if they have a walk in service, where you can travel to them. They did of course when it was a licensed abbatoir.
 
sharon1959 said:
Thanks.

Couldnt you offer it as a companion,so it will have another chance in life????? If I had my own land Id take him off your hands.
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All the people that say this really annoy me. If you feel so strongly do something about it; forego all the luxuries of hairdressers, new clothes, better car, new furniture, holidays, takeaways, nights out and whatever else and move to somewhere with no facilities, no social life and miles from anywhere to a house with some land then. We not "lucky" to own land we had to work damned hard and give up loads of things "normal" people expect as a right in order to be able to do it.

It's what a lot of us have had to do.

Now just for a moment THINK: you've given up all of life's luxuries for the luxury of owning your own land and seeing your own animals on it. Mortgage is big, money is tight and you're going to BUY a dangerous horse as a companion? Really or would you take one of the myriad that for whatever reason, bit lame, bit old, owner fallen on hard times, is desperate for a home and carries no risk to you or to other people. Your money, money your time - you going to look after someone else's problem or choose a horse that you want?
 
jemima_too said:
All the people that say this really annoy me. If you feel so strongly do something about it; forego all the luxuries of hairdressers, new clothes, better car, new furniture, holidays, takeaways, nights out and whatever else and move to somewhere with no facilities, no social life and miles from anywhere to a house with some land then. We not "lucky" to own land we had to work damned hard and give up loads of things "normal" people expect as a right in order to be able to do it.

It's what a lot of us have had to do.

Now just for a moment THINK: you've given up all of life's luxuries for the luxury of owning your own land and seeing your own animals on it. Mortgage is big, money is tight and you're going to BUY a dangerous horse as a companion? Really or would you take one of the myriad that for whatever reason, bit lame, bit old, owner fallen on hard times, is desperate for a home and carries no risk to you or to other people. Your money, money your time - you going to look after someone else's problem or choose a horse that you want?
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I do not have ANY luxeries,nor do I own my own house.My husband works,Im a mother and housewife and any money I do get goes on my two neds and the kids.Not claimimg benefit either. I wish I could buy my own house,but Im NOT that fortunate. Maybe one day.
 
I cannot see why some people are so against the idea of taking a horse to a licenced horse abbatoir like Potters,
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Exactly!

For goodness sake - those of you who are opposed to abbatoirs, you only have to look at the situation in America to see the appalling suffering that's experienced by horses being transported to Mexico for slaughter - since the do gooders managed to get abbatoirs in the US closed down.

I won't post pictures here - but you only have to do a google search. My god, it is truly appalling what some animals go through - and that is just during transport. Their destruction is another situation all together.....

You people who are so anti need to wake up and smell the coffee.
 
amymay said:
You people who are so anti need to wake up and smell the coffee.
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Would just like to add to that the fact that there are people who are anti-abbatoir for their own neds but who are in the real world and acknowledge it has its place ;)

The situation in America interests me in a horrifying way. Can anyone tell me if it is the same as France, where there is practically no veterinatry/other method of humane destruction?
 
jodie3 said:
I'm not certain about 'giving' your pony to the hunt, I have been quoted £200 by our local hunts to come out and shoot a pony to then be fed to the hounds (clean passport) which in my opinion is alot of money. Especially as local knackerman would charge very slightly more to burn the carcass.
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I think that amount is spot on. They are offering you a service, for which they need to be paid.

It's a damn site cheaper than your vet doing it. Plus you have the added confidence of knowing what a professional service they offer.

All my horses have been dispatched by the hunt - and whilst it's incredibly upsetting at the time, I can only praise them for their professional and curtious service.
 
When I was training (as a vet) we had to go to Potters. I was absolutely dreading it and desperately tried to think of excuses to not have to go. However, I had to go. I have to say I was actually very impressed and had all my preconceived ideas turned on their head. The horses would arrive in a trailer or lorry, go STRAIGHT in from their transport. Didn't have a clue and instantly gone. That's fine as far as I am concerned, I don't care what happens afterwards as long as the going is humane which it certainly was. I totally agree, better that than ending up as a welfare case somewhere.
 
Naturally said:
Would just like to add to that the fact that there are people who are anti-abbatoir for their own neds but who are in the real world and acknowledge it has its place ;)
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I totally agree with this. Horse slaughter is a reality along with the slaughter of cattle, sheep, etc., and we use leather tack (by-products of the slaughter industry) on our horses. This is the real world.

However, I wouldn't want *my* horse to go off to slaughter.

What other people do is their choice. I hope places like Potters treat the animals humanely.
 
Inky_and_Sunny said:
If a horse has been killed by injection it is not allowed to be buried due to the harm to wildlife. It's hard enough to bury a dog in the country without it getting dug up by foxes and badgers :eek:
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:D

We have four buried on our land - 2 put down by lethal injection, 2 died naturally. As they were buried using a JCB (I don't have a shovel big enough ;) ) and are buried at a depth of 10m, with a minimum of 7m of earth above them - I think even badgers would be hard pushed to dig them up :rolleyes:

They now have trees planted on them :)

We also have about 5-6 dogs buried there too, all still there ;)

I personally wouldn't send any horse to an abbatoir - but thats my choice not too. I see they have a purpose, just not one I'd like to use :)
 
I have never posted on a thread like this before, and I must admitt that before reading these 13 pages of pros and cons I didn't rather like the sound of selling a pony for meat, but it seems to me that the OP is doing the responsible thing by this pony & the people it may or may not end up hurting. It will be destroyed humanely, with no suffering and OP will get a little something (albeit not much) back in return for her efforts...
Would I send mine there? No, because I'm soft and fluffy and would like to be able to say goodbye to my beloved mare with her at home in my field, but that is NOT to say that I dont think these abattoirs have a place and would far rather see a pony end up in one than harming a person/getting passed around the houses for less money than a packet of crisps...
Those who are so anti ought to have a serious think. This thread has certainly opened up my eyes to a world I knew nothing about, and I'm thankful for that...
 
Originally Posted by sharon1959

Couldnt you offer it as a companion,so it will have another chance in life????? If I had my own land Id take him off your hands.
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Sharon, I spent the whole summer trying to find a companion home for my wonderful, mannerly horse - as he could not be kept sound. Having him pts was the very last option.

No one wanted him. This was despite him being an absolute gentleman.

Equally, how could his future have been assured had I given him away as a compaion. How could I be certain that he wouldn't be passed on?

There are too many uncertainties in life - but the things that we do have control over are our actions in terms of our animals.

I also feel very, very strongly that it is absolutely no one's business on which method of disposal one chooses for our horses - or indeed the reasons behind it.

If a horse is to be put down, our responsibility is to ensure that the method is humane and quick. It is not for us to judge a person on the method, means or venue.
 
Would just like to add to that the fact that there are people who are anti-abbatoir for their own neds but who are in the real world and acknowledge it has its place
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Point well made - thank's Naturally :)
 
I have just booked a horse in of mine because he has wobblers and its going to deterioate....this horse is 17.3hh big warmblood...booked him in at potters yesterday he can't go til 8th dec as they are fully booked!
 
Ted's mum said:
I have just booked a horse in of mine because he has wobblers and its going to deterioate....this horse is 17.3hh big warmblood...booked him in at potters yesterday he can't go til 8th dec as they are fully booked!
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Sorry to hear that Ted's Mum.

Will be thinking of you ((((( ))))
 
Lady La La said:
I have never posted on a thread like this before, and I must admitt that before reading these 13 pages of pros and cons I didn't rather like the sound of selling a pony for meat, but it seems to me that the OP is doing the responsible thing by this pony & the people it may or may not end up hurting. It will be destroyed humanely, with no suffering and OP will get a little something (albeit not much) back in return for her efforts...
Would I send mine there? No, because I'm soft and fluffy and would like to be able to say goodbye to my beloved mare with her at home in my field, but that is NOT to say that I dont think these abattoirs have a place and would far rather see a pony end up in one than harming a person/getting passed around the houses for less money than a packet of crisps...
Those who are so anti ought to have a serious think. This thread has certainly opened up my eyes to a world I knew nothing about, and I'm thankful for that...
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These are my feelings about it too, think it also depends on the animal, if its used to traveling etc and wont be stressed out by the whole thing ie being loaded, taken to a strange place, being handled by strangers etc etc it may be a humane option. How ever if the animal is not used to travelling and gets worried and stressed by it all then its best to be pts at home. We all choose to have animals in our lives and I think we have a responsibility to make sure that the end is as stress free as possible.
 
I sent one of mine off this year to potters - only got £230 (net of pick up) for premium 3 year old pure hano meat!

This horse had never been ridden, but I took a punt on him as he had a wonky leg (deformed) and I picked him up as a yearling and gave him over 1.5 years of lovely herd life. However he began to be lame behind and would only get worse.

I watched an "anti" video of potters and was so relieved by what I saw I had no problems sending him off, as this was a horse that freaked at a tetanus injection; so vet + needle would have been highly traumatic.

Granted I probably wouldn't send a loyal servant to Potters, but I think an outstanding, professional, regulated abattoir is a real blessing for the UK and long may it continue to operate.
 
Unbeliever said:
Err, wouldn't there be a better way of finding this out than asking on a public forum? Is it all about money or the best for the horse?
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Possibly there is a better way, but the forum is as good a place to ask as any.
It is all about what's best for the horse, but there has to be financial consideration - the cost of PTS at home might be prohibitive, therefore slaughter might be more viable.
 
Mavis007 said:
When I was training (as a vet) we had to go to Potters. I was absolutely dreading it and desperately tried to think of excuses to not have to go. However, I had to go.
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Don't take this the wrong way and I'm very likely wrong but that statement worried me and gives me the impression you could be a fluffy vet; if you're not, I apologise.
I've known a fair few vet students that have since passed out to be useful sensible vets; not one of them ever mentioned about dreading the abattoir trips or other reactions because they wanted and needed to learn everything there they could; it's all part of being a vet or a doctor, you have to have the mind and stomach to be prepared and able to deal with both the giving and taking/losing life.
 
Ive tried to read all of these posts, I havn't actually seen one that says why this horse is dangerous!
Thats why I sugested a home as a companion, our mare would be very dangerous to get on she has bad kissing spine in two places, but to handle on the ground she is so sweet.
And you dont have to be really rich and have a house with tons of land to take on companion horses.
My mother doesn't ride but loves horses and she has to retired ones.

Is this horse actually dangerous to handle then? if it is I wouldn't of sugested passing it on to anyone else.
 
martlin said:
Possibly there is a better way, but the forum is as good a place to ask as any.
It is all about what's best for the horse, but there has to be financial consideration - the cost of PTS at home might be prohibitive, therefore slaughter might be more viable.
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Better to get real views from people that have used the service than just believe any blurb there might be which might distort your views - as is apparent reading some posts on here.
 
Ive tried to read all of these posts, I havn't actually seen one that says why this horse is dangerous!
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But that is entirely irrelevant. If the OP wants a horse destroyed, it is none of anyone's business why.

They do not have to justify their actions or reasons to anyone!
 
kharber21 said:
Hi, im not going to say anything against the post as everyone has different opions on it.
Is the horse that bad that you dont want to sell it to one of the dealers that advertises for horses with behavioural problems or sell it as a retired horse as a companion only?
You would get more for it and it would have another chance.
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Nothing to add. Thanks to the people in the real world for an informative thread. :)
 
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