Your collecting greys now ? ?
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Great day with the pony helped by Ester 2nd/5 in the mixed open single class which is very respectable!
Same again different place next weekend. It’s so good to do stuff just because it’s fun, not chasing scores, selection, qualification etc.
The clinic this weekend was hugely thought provoking (warning: lengthy text ahead ?).
Our clinic was with a rider/trainer from Spain who knows the PRE quite well and had some good success herself this year ar SICAB. It was so refreshing to ride with someone that knows the breed and to break away from the German style dressage and to stop trying to stuff ourselves into a German Warmblood shaped mould (I also think I rode some of the Spanish out of my horse, if that makes sense). I'm sure it'll make nearly everyone at the yard cringe ? I'm sort of at a crossroads with our training and deciding how I want to ride this horse. I know I should trust my feeling more too and become deaf to the railbirds.
She also rode my horse a bit to feel out and help us work out some issues with some of our collected canter work. The feedback was great and we have out work cut out for us. We'll also try some virtual/online lessons/feedback sessions too.
A lot of food for thought this weekend.
Horse was a good little traveler as always and I'm very thankful that we found a car to sub in for my broken towing vehicle.
I only have some grainy low resolution still shots from videos. So, apologies for the poor quality photos.
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Great photos and sounds like an interesting lesson. What were the main differences between the clinic suggestions and the usual German approach?
I did some in-hand work with Chilli on Saturday the hopped on in the school. He was mostly good, with just a couple of humpy “I want to canter” moments. Very good about some ponies fighting in the next field too! Then a chilled hack yesterday with a couple of friends.
Busy week of work ahead so I’m not sure how much riding I’ll fit in ?
Well, I wasn't told "neck down, neck down!" for one thing ? and she said don't worry if he comes high with his neck or even behind the vertical for a few seconds when doing this work (collected canter, pirouette's, beginning piaffe) and it'll sort out when the balance and strength is established. Get him using his hind end more and don't let him get soo long. Mainly the German trainers want him long, lower, and they feel he has to have his head so low to "open the back" and I'm fine with stretch work, mainly at the end of our ride. She said its better to warm these types up with a bit more collection.
That's also how I'll get the power, more expression, and better extensions; though the collected work. Not chasing him forward, tapping at the shoulder with the whip, all while keeping his neck down (someone had us do this in a clinic and I had to stop because it was just him running frantic at the trot). He physically can't sit and have a better hind leg with his head at or below his withers/so low. There is so much focus on this forwards downwards thing here. People ride it all the time, the whole ride. We also need the higher neck position and more engaged hind end at this level and higher. It's not all about the neck, but with some people it is! Even with judges at the lower levels.
He was not pleased about having to work that booty more, and having to give 100%. He will try to avoid this by doing a flying change, and she said then work him in collected counter canter, make it hard. Whereas others said, stop, regroup, and he learned this was a short break. ? so when that didn't work he'd then give a good kick (not quite a buck) out and lock his back, so I have to give forward with the inside ride and push right before this happens. Show him the way with the inside rein giving, and the leg on. She said he's well ridden on the outside rein, so he doesn't get lost, take off, get strung out, totally lose the connection/whatever when the inside rein isn't there, and to use it as an open door. It's hard on my crocked SI joint when he throws those shapes, and I was feeling discouraged, but she (and another trainer we've gotten on well with) said it's relatively normal to protest a bit with the demanding work, all horses have their thing, this is his thing, but he was able to be ridden through it quickly and she'd like a progress report later.
She was just more open and creative too. Not so much "this way, the one way" as many are around here. She was also good at explaining or saying why this helped and how it all worked. It was also OK if he got a bit stressed and to ride through it and sort it out. Not just say "he needs to relax, he must relax" which...yeah, duh. So many people here are all about "the horse must" but not about the how and why, or it taking time and putting together the different pieces to get there. Not all horses should be stuffed into the same mold nor are they machines. Sure, some basics are the same as well as end goals, but roads to Rome and all that.
Ok, I know that was long ?
Not that long, and very interesting! It sounds like your usual trainers are a lot more rigid than the trainers I've met here - maybe because we have a wider 'type' of horse doing dressage. It's great that this trainer is willing and (hopefully) able to help you remotely too ?