ester
Not slacking multitasking
horse wasn't vetted
Missold horse
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9tails
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We're also not sure the horse was seen before purchase either.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
nope, even though that changes the return options. OP not the most forthcoming on answering questions to get better info.
Pearlsacarolsinger
Up in the clouds
Meowy Catkin
Meow!
I really do feel for both the OP and their horse.
If I took my old girl to a new livery yard where you have to walk through a field of loose horses that were trying to kick her she would absolutely lose her marbles and any vet who met her would probably think she was crazy & super sharp. I can't think of a situation more perfectly set up for a new horse owner and horse to fail. I think the dealer probably did take advantage of a first time buyer, but given the correct treatment for his back and a better set up, the horse might be a nice horse for someone.
I found the new advert it made me a bit uneasy. Hopefully the OP will discuss everything in full with people who ring. I really hope that the horse gets a nice home and isn't the loser in this whole sorry mess.
If I took my old girl to a new livery yard where you have to walk through a field of loose horses that were trying to kick her she would absolutely lose her marbles and any vet who met her would probably think she was crazy & super sharp. I can't think of a situation more perfectly set up for a new horse owner and horse to fail. I think the dealer probably did take advantage of a first time buyer, but given the correct treatment for his back and a better set up, the horse might be a nice horse for someone.
I found the new advert it made me a bit uneasy. Hopefully the OP will discuss everything in full with people who ring. I really hope that the horse gets a nice home and isn't the loser in this whole sorry mess.
Red-1
I used to be decisive, now I'm not so sure...
I agree. Not the picture that was painted here. I too hope details are more forthcoming on the phone, as the wording is plain wrong, if it is the same horse. I hope it is a different horse, the one I have seen, but many of the pertinent details are the same
I have to add, it does look like a sweet horse from the sideways photo!
ETA, on reflection, I don't think OP has actually ridden the horse as she/he has no saddle so perhaps is justified in giving a glowing report of the ridden prowess, as this was presumably information given by the dealer, with nothing to disprove it. Maybe I have been harsh. The sensitive back and need for a fitted saddle is mentioned. As an advert, it would throw up more questions than answers, which is probably a good thing.
I would certainly be asking a lot of questions before viewing based on the wording.
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TPO
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I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt buy I've found your advert and you have been far from honest.
You havent even ridden him and are advertising him as a genuine and honest horse, established in all 3 gaits and good to hack.
You say he is "sensitive" in his back but it causes no issues he just needs a fitted saddle. Yet you've posted here that vet has advised he needs veterinary attention including xrays along with the support of a physio.
The picture you have chosen does him no favours and certainly makes him look sway backed.
Coinciding with the vet visit and subsequent advice you now have money issues/new job and no time, depending on what version is read, after only a week of owning him?!
You claim that you were sold a horse suitable for a novice and are now saying that you were missold and he needs veterinary attention yet you've advertised him wanting your full purchase price despite knowing that he isnt what you are advertising. That's pretty low.
I hope the poor horse somehow lands on his hooves in a knowledgable and kind home.
You havent even ridden him and are advertising him as a genuine and honest horse, established in all 3 gaits and good to hack.
You say he is "sensitive" in his back but it causes no issues he just needs a fitted saddle. Yet you've posted here that vet has advised he needs veterinary attention including xrays along with the support of a physio.
The picture you have chosen does him no favours and certainly makes him look sway backed.
Coinciding with the vet visit and subsequent advice you now have money issues/new job and no time, depending on what version is read, after only a week of owning him?!
You claim that you were sold a horse suitable for a novice and are now saying that you were missold and he needs veterinary attention yet you've advertised him wanting your full purchase price despite knowing that he isnt what you are advertising. That's pretty low.
I hope the poor horse somehow lands on his hooves in a knowledgable and kind home.
Pearlsacarolsinger
Up in the clouds
I haven't seen the advert and am not going to go looking for it but if this is true - that is despicable. Just return him to the dealer, as is your right for a short time (30 days?) The horse is currently your responsibility, you need to step up and do the best that you can for him, not pass him on to some other unsuspecting novice.
shamrock2021
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??? wow that’s shocking
Surbie
Well-Known Member
I really hope you can contact the dealer, even through using a friend's phone etc, and get your money refunded.
I wouldn't sell the horse on myself, and particularly since you know he has issues, and you don't know the extent of them as he hasn't been treated.
I have a loan horse, so no initial payment for him, and despite him looking solid he has demonstrated how fragile he is - last year he had vets for a bad reaction to the flu jab, plus x-rays of all 4 feet and then being shod to x-ray, none of which was cheap. He's also had a new saddle and lots of fitting costs to get it right.
What I'm trying to say is that owning any horse usually comes with unexpected expenses, and you have to plan for that on top of the normal costs.
I wouldn't sell the horse on myself, and particularly since you know he has issues, and you don't know the extent of them as he hasn't been treated.
I have a loan horse, so no initial payment for him, and despite him looking solid he has demonstrated how fragile he is - last year he had vets for a bad reaction to the flu jab, plus x-rays of all 4 feet and then being shod to x-ray, none of which was cheap. He's also had a new saddle and lots of fitting costs to get it right.
What I'm trying to say is that owning any horse usually comes with unexpected expenses, and you have to plan for that on top of the normal costs.
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Bellaboo18
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The advert is very easy to find, preloved - horses for sale - £2600 and he's the first horse that comes up.
OP, send him back and then dont buy another horse. Every horse needs a saddle that fits.
OP, send him back and then dont buy another horse. Every horse needs a saddle that fits.
ownedbyaconnie
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Agree with above, whilst it's obviously not OK that the dealer has sold you a horse with "issues" (also find the vets apparent diagnosis of back issues whilst doing vaccs a bit odd), what if the horse had come to you absolutely perfect but then had a field injury that needed vet attention? How would you have afforded that?
I hate the thought of horses being passed from pillar to post but if you cannot afford to sort this horse then try and get a partial refund and look for a share instead. There's a lovely thread on here with a novice owner biting off a bit more than they can chew but they have taken on board a ridiculous amount of advice, and put a lot of time, effort and money into sorting the horse out.
Until you can afford to sort a potential issue that crops up it's not fair to buy one. Also your other thread re turnout screams very novice owner. Yes a more experienced owner might be able to deal with walking through a field better but an even more experienced owner wouldn't even attempt it and would tell the YO to sort it or leave.
I hate the thought of horses being passed from pillar to post but if you cannot afford to sort this horse then try and get a partial refund and look for a share instead. There's a lovely thread on here with a novice owner biting off a bit more than they can chew but they have taken on board a ridiculous amount of advice, and put a lot of time, effort and money into sorting the horse out.
Until you can afford to sort a potential issue that crops up it's not fair to buy one. Also your other thread re turnout screams very novice owner. Yes a more experienced owner might be able to deal with walking through a field better but an even more experienced owner wouldn't even attempt it and would tell the YO to sort it or leave.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
I'm gobsmacked by that advert.
Chinchilla
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ironic that they're claiming horse was missold
then try and sell horse as 'working well in 3 paces' and 'excelling in hacking' whilst simultaneously saying on here they've not ridden him yet.
Once again it's the poor animal that loses out. He looks like a sweetheart.
Eta - I found the ad obviously, it took all of 3 minutes.
then try and sell horse as 'working well in 3 paces' and 'excelling in hacking' whilst simultaneously saying on here they've not ridden him yet.
Once again it's the poor animal that loses out. He looks like a sweetheart.
Eta - I found the ad obviously, it took all of 3 minutes.
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ihatework
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OP, please don’t try and pass this horse on as suitable for a novice learning to ride. You have clearly discovered he isn’t.
Persue the dealer return more strongly it will be best for you in the long run. For the horse, who knows.
Persue the dealer return more strongly it will be best for you in the long run. For the horse, who knows.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Op, you’re possibly playing a dangerous game by trying to sell the horse on yourself. The advert absolutely contradicts everything you’ve said on here about him - and someone doing their homework could well find this thread. If they found it, and they had purchased the horse (before finding the thread) then you leave yourself open to being sued.
I hope you’re still reading this thread even though you’re no longer participating in the discussion.
Send the horse back to the dealer and get your money back.
I hope you’re still reading this thread even though you’re no longer participating in the discussion.
Send the horse back to the dealer and get your money back.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Concerns aside, have you considered how you would actually sell him?
He will need to be ridden by you first to show him off (and show he’s sane and safe) to a potential purchaser. Then, providing that goes well, the PP will want to ride him, and (most) probably a PP will want a vetting done. For the most part, that’s how people buy horses.
How’s that going to work exactly? ?
He will need to be ridden by you first to show him off (and show he’s sane and safe) to a potential purchaser. Then, providing that goes well, the PP will want to ride him, and (most) probably a PP will want a vetting done. For the most part, that’s how people buy horses.
How’s that going to work exactly? ?
Red-1
I used to be decisive, now I'm not so sure...
Oh, I fond it on Horsemart, but the photo was sideways on (as in, the same photo but incorrectly loaded).
As I said, as the vendor has never ridden (presumably) as they have no saddle, they can't really say that the horse is anything but as they were told as a ridden horse. It may well be that they would say the whole tale if someone rings. They have declared the sensitive back. They have nt said suitable as a novice's horse.
Declaring it needs a fitted saddle is a bit strange, they all need that!
Scotsbadboy
Well-Known Member
Poor poor bugger
9tails
Well-Known Member
He looks like quite an old horse.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
He looks older than 9, for sure. That’s a weak looking dippy back.
ETA That’ll be where the ‘needs a fitted saddle‘ bit comes in, I imagine. Not that many off the peg saddles will fit that profile.
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Winters100
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If that really is the advert it is a disgraceful thing to do.
Edited to add that I agree, he looks much older than 9.
Edited to add that I agree, he looks much older than 9.
mini_b
Well-Known Member
quite cross...
...OP ended up with an unsuitable horse as the dealers didn’t disclose information or made him sound suitable when he wasn’t, but it’s ok for OP to effectively dupe someone else.
poor pony - I hope his issues come up at vetting and hopefully he finds someone experienced that can cope with whatever issues he has.
far more likely to end up in a suitable home if the advert was honest.
this isn’t popular but people should have to pass some sort of test before being allowed pets (and children!!!)
you have to learn to drive something that doesn’t live, breathe or suffer and you can stick in a garage and forget about. But something that is capable of thinking & feeling?! No.
yes a lot of us have learnt on the fly but with the attitude of doing *right by your horse*
I don’t usually say things like that but I really wish pets weren’t viewed as so disposable. I apologise if that is inflammatory, didn’t mean it to be, just food for thought.
paddy555
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haven't found the advert yet. If I bought a horse I would expect the owner to get on first and demonstrate the 3 paces and the excelling in hacking. No way would I be the first on it's back
If they didn't have a saddle then nothing wrong with bareback. so, it is going to be quite interesting when someone comes to view the poor creature and expects to see it ridden
ps are we all ready for next week's post? "I've just bought a horse off preloved/horsemart and I can't get on it, tie it up etc etc etc" where have I gone wrong, what should I do and, wait for it, do I have any claim against the vendor as the advert was clearly very dishonest."
Goldenstar
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Poor poor horse OMG I am so cross.
Upthecreek
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Beyond angry. I cannot believe OP has advertised this horse for sale. Sadly many purchasers often don’t get horses around this value vetted so the poor creature will probably continue to be passed from unsuitable home to unsuitable home with nobody prepared to spend the money or take the time to resolve his issues when they are found out. Very sad and totally irresponsible of the OP.
mini_b
Well-Known Member
Now following this turn of events re advert, it is highly ironic this thread is titled
“Mis-sold horse”
“Mis-sold horse”
mini_b
Well-Known Member
i vetted my free horse. It’s alright being free but it’s the costs that come up if it turns out to be a walking vet bill. What’s a few hundred quid when you’re taking a punt on potentially spending thousands opening a free can of worms!
Chinchilla
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haven't found the advert yet. If I bought a horse I would expect the owner to get on first and demonstrate the 3 paces and the excelling in hacking. No way would I be the first on it's back
so, it is going to be quite interesting when someone comes to view the poor creature and expects to see it ridden
ps are we all ready for next week's post? "I've just bought a horse off preloved/horsemart and I can't get on it, tie it up etc etc etc" where have I gone wrong, what should I do and, wait for it, do I have any claim against the vendor as the advert was clearly very dishonest."
https://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/120396575/gorgeous-chesnut-gelding-15hh.html?link=/search?keyword=Gorgeous+chesnut+gelding
Kahlua
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Argh this whole thing is infuriating!
The threads where OPs inevitably always give half truths and then totally disappear always begin with “I thought I’d ask here because everyone gives such good advice.” But once the advice doesn’t suit, they suddenly go quiet.
This poor horse is going to be passed from pillar to post. Or worse yet some poor unsuspecting buyer will come and be the first person to sit on it, with an unfitted saddle and likely get seriously injured. I feel for the OP if you were mis-sold a horse, but then you are continuing the cycle by doing the same to someone else. We’ve all purchased the wrong horse at some point in our riding time, but you either return to the seller if possible, suck it up and try and find a professional to help you, sell it on using a professional and/or be open about your issues and sell at a loss. That advert reads like the horse is a dream, and its face looks very sweet. Horse ownership is not for everyone and I agree with others who have previously said, (if you ever come back to this thread and read the replies) you should rethink whether it’s for you.
The threads where OPs inevitably always give half truths and then totally disappear always begin with “I thought I’d ask here because everyone gives such good advice.” But once the advice doesn’t suit, they suddenly go quiet.
This poor horse is going to be passed from pillar to post. Or worse yet some poor unsuspecting buyer will come and be the first person to sit on it, with an unfitted saddle and likely get seriously injured. I feel for the OP if you were mis-sold a horse, but then you are continuing the cycle by doing the same to someone else. We’ve all purchased the wrong horse at some point in our riding time, but you either return to the seller if possible, suck it up and try and find a professional to help you, sell it on using a professional and/or be open about your issues and sell at a loss. That advert reads like the horse is a dream, and its face looks very sweet. Horse ownership is not for everyone and I agree with others who have previously said, (if you ever come back to this thread and read the replies) you should rethink whether it’s for you.