"Most horses rear and buck at some point" (?)

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That comment sounds like complete crap to me.
There are plenty of 'non-buckers' that may throw the odd one in if antagonised, but there are very few horses that will ever rear.

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Exactly, if the owner tells you that they did once it helps you see how genuine the seller is, if they are telling the truth and it has never bucked or reared while they have had it and the horse seems sane, then thay are probably correct.

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I don't count things like raising their front legs as a rear, so to say that most horses do it is a little rash imho
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I was counting that as a rear..

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You see I wouldnt, if a horse raises its legs off the ground in excitement just before you hit a stibble field etc - that is not rearing. Having sat on a real rearer (not one of mine I hasten to say) I can promise you there is a world of difference, and the sort of horses that will really rear are thankfully very few and far between.
 
Thinking about it we haven't ever owned one except for a big quiet mare who hasn't done either or both of the former!
Even the riding school ponies have been known to buck with excitement out hunting or on the beach.
I think shortly after backing is the most likely time, when they start to get aware that some days exciting things happen, but I do think some horses virtually never buck or rear, partly because it isn't in their nature, or because if always ridden quietly they don't get wound up.
CCJ has just managed to get back on Jacques the naughty four year old after a week off, he had a go but the person leading him (my son) refused to let go and he packed it in once he realised he wouldn't get away with it!
Other horses just don't buck even in the field, so I wouldn't say "all horses" just the majority...
 
Well sorry to write such rubbish.
I absolutely think there's a bizarre connection between the way horses are ridden and whether or not they rear. It's probably explains why mine don't rear. (although I'm probably not qualified to judge as I've only had 40odd)
 
see now thats another term i dont agree with ''brought up correctly'' some horses dont have it in them and most do no matter how much work you put in or how much of a good job you do fact is any horse can buck or rear at any given time.
 
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That comment sounds like complete crap to me.
There are plenty of 'non-buckers' that may throw the odd one in if antagonised, but there are very few horses that will ever rear.

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Exactly, if the owner tells you that they did once it helps you see how genuine the seller is, if they are telling the truth and it has never bucked or reared while they have had it and the horse seems sane, then thay are probably correct.

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No, not exactly. Plenty was probably being generous, there are probably more horses that quite simply dont have a buck in them.
Are you saying that if a seller said to you that the horse had reared once, you would automatically assume everything they said was gospel?
IMO that is someone selling a complete nappy dodgepot, trying to cover their backs.
 
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Well sorry to write such rubbish.
I absolutely think there's a bizarre connection between the way horses are ridden and whether or not they rear. It's probably explains why mine don't rear. (although I'm probably not qualified to judge as I've only had 40odd)

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I totally agree with you siennamum, it is all to do with the way the horse is started - most horses are not born rearers but are made that way, either through bad training and/or pain somewhere
 
I think some horses are born nappy and are disposed to rear. I also think the vast majority of horses which rear do so through bad management at some point.
I also think that correctly brought up horses are highly unlikely to misbehave.
 
but what you said was an insult to any one of us who has or has had a rearer i have had a few and sometimes they are just so explosive in personality not the best rider in the world could stop it maybe calm the situation but not you me or anyone else can stop a horse rearing if its got that streak in it and its determined its going up.
 
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I don't count things like raising their front legs as a rear, so to say that most horses do it is a little rash imho
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I was counting that as a rear..

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You see I wouldnt, if a horse raises its legs off the ground in excitement just before you hit a stibble field etc - that is not rearing. Having sat on a real rearer (not one of mine I hasten to say) I can promise you there is a world of difference, and the sort of horses that will really rear are thankfully very few and far between.

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I know they are two very different things, Pip always does little rear type thing before the marathon where as when we had a little stally he really reared when he was ridden, but that little 'hop' or what ever is normal, and if you are prepared to tell seller that you are being very honest, its eay to say they have never done real rears or bucks, but its very honest to tell them every detail of whenthey get excited,

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and btw if you think im i spoilt brat i really am not, all my ponies i bought i bought myself with sponsers, even my carriage i bought, i dont even live with my parents and they dont support me except my dad occasionaly watches at bigger shows.
 
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Are you saying that if a seller said to you that the horse had reared once, you would automatically assume everything they said was gospel?
IMO that is someone selling a complete nappy dodgepot, trying to cover their backs.

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Now that, I agree with!
 
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see now thats another term i dont agree with ''brought up correctly'' some horses dont have it in them and most do no matter how much work you put in or how much of a good job you do fact is any horse can buck or rear at any given time.

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Are you saying that some horses cannot be brought up correctly? I would strongly disagree with that - nine times out of ten it is a training issue - and training starts well before you sit on them
 
yeah i do agree with alot of that but frankly implying that if you cant stop your horse rearing its bad riding thats rubbish like i said if a horse has that streak in them they have it and its that simple.
 
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and btw if you think im i spoilt brat i really am not, all my ponies i bought i bought myself with sponsers, even my carriage i bought, i dont even live with my parents and they dont support me except my dad occasionaly watches at bigger shows.

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and btw if you think im i spoilt brat i really am not, all my ponies i bought i bought myself with sponsers, even my carriage i bought, i dont even live with my parents and they dont support me except my dad occasionaly watches at bigger shows.

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Im leaving now, that was just incase it comes around to that, as many posts about younger people do.
 
I think it's generally bad riding that starts the rearing and in many cases it's poor riding which pertetuates it.
I certainly think there are horses which are near impossibly to stop rearing.
 
all horses can and should be brought up correctly but i will press this point again if they have that streak in them to rear they will and do its a bad habbit like windsucking.
But by implying because a horse that does not rear was brought up correctly implies that everyone who has a rearer did a rubbish job with theres.

Its the way its been put i would be very offended if i had bought a youngster which turned out to be a rearer and i was seeing comments like that.
 
Yes marmite I do agree that there are SOME horses that are just that way, just like there are SOME horses who have other vices, but the OP was saying that MOST horses rear and buck at some point, all SM and I were saying is that that is simply not true and MOST but not ALL rearers are made that way by bad training/riding/pain
 
well were not all as great riders as you lot who have perfect horses then are we pmsl.

people do and will sell you horses without been truthful so something that has never reared before can turn out to be a nutcase.
 
I agree that rearing/bucking is a mostly a matter of training - but most people do not have the luxury of having a horse from birth to erase bad habits before they start.

There has been suggestion here that a rider causes rearing/bucking, and whilst I think that some people do create these issues, its unfair to imply that if your horse has had a few naughty bucks or the odd rear, that you're somehow a lesser rider.

I believe the reason most horses won't do it, is because they've been well brought up, and therefore when they've tried it on as youngsters, they've been sharply corrected, and then are unlikely to try it again. I find it hard to believe that most horses have never in their lives even attempted a little buck or whatever.

[I think there needs to be a clarification made between horses that have bucked or reared a few times, and those who do it constantly and have a vice. I've seen all numbers of very skilled riders with horses that have bucked or had a bit of a rear out of excitement - and I think it would be very unfair to say thats the fault of the rider.]
 
more horses will buck as apposed to rearing now everything i have ridden has had a little buck at some point mainly due to excitment and one is an ex rodeo horse so that answers that one.

but again there are ways of putting things across and this is not aimed at anyone imperticular but dont most arguments flair up on here by people implying they can ride so much better than the rest of us and unintentionally offending people.
 
well said spiral and lets face it the most gem of a horse will try it on at least once whilst been backed be it a tiny bunny hop or a little buck or even a nap.
 
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well were not all as great riders as you lot who have perfect horses then are we pmsl.

people do and will sell you horses without been truthful so something that has never reared before can turn out to be a nutcase.

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Marmite I think you have totally misread what has been said and no one has said you are not a good rider, no one got personal and no one was having a dig at you.

Yes, of course there are dishonest sellers out there, but that was not the subject - the subject was that most horses rear or buck
 
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I agree that rearing/bucking is a mostly a matter of training - but most people do not have the luxury of having a horse from birth to erase bad habits before they start

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Most muppets who bring youngsters up create them they don't erase them!
 
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well said spiral and lets face it the most gem of a horse will try it on at least once whilst been backed be it a tiny bunny hop or a little buck or even a nap.

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I couldn't have said it better myself
 
again a very good point some people take them on dont have a clue what they are doing bang horse rears people dont know how to / or correct it quick enough so horse thinks its done right and it was the right reaction and its all part of the training said horse gets passed on to somebody now stuck with the problem..
 
Again, I agree witb you marmite and did I not say that when Sirena was backed she did humungous bucks into canter? Now bucking is not in her vocabulary so to me she is not a bucker but yes, she has bucked. She has never reared but she is the only horse I have had that did real stonking bucks as a baby. Now if I was to sell her (which I wouldnt) if someone asked me if she bucked or reared my initial reaction would be to say no - because she hasnt since she was five and she is now nine, but I would probably mention that she did it as a baby.
 
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