Moving yards and rugging

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My 19 year old WB gelding has just moved yards from a yard he has been at for 2.5 years to the yard he was at previously for nearly ten years. At the previous yard the indoor yard was in a ‘U’ shape d and the main doors at both ends were shut ¾ of the way across on cold nights.

When it was above 6C at night at the old yard he was wearing just a Masta fleece, and below that rug very like a thermatex which is a decent thickness because I was told the doors being ¾ shut made it quite warm in the barn. He started dropping weight so I increased his hay and he maintained his weight steadily although you could see all his ribs.
Now at the new yard he is still 2nd stable from the end of the indoor barn but the main door is left open at night, so he is much more exposed to cold and wind. I plan to hand some rugs up from his stable down the outside to counteract a lot of the wind/cold and give him a bit of shelter, but based on previous experience the door will not be shut at night unless it is snowing which is fine as its better to have ventilation than none at all.

I think he is rather on the lean side, and three weeks ago when I questioned his weight with the vet I was told he was fine (667KG) and looked good. Last week he went on the Topspec weighbridge when they visited the new yard and he weighed 667KG again (he is 17.1hh M/W WB) – they said he looked fit. I thought you were meant to feel the ribs but not see them??

He has a vet reassessment on Thursday and he will be weighed again, and I will see if he’s lost any weight. I don’t have a recent photo of him but you can see all his ribs so I have gradually increased his hay, I am giving him high fibre nuts in his feed and in his snackaball and good door chaff and because the new yard has such good grazing, I am strip grazing his paddock although I have made it longer twice now in the space of a week. He’s having approx. 22lbs of hay a day – this is a large tub at lunch time when he comes in and a large net and a medium net at night. He's on Magic, Glucosamine and pink powder and carrots and the odd apple.

In light of recent comments on this forum about over rugging horses I am wondering what you guys are putting on your horses at night? Tomorrow in our area it will be 3c. I was wondering whether a medium weight stable rug with a neck or a light weight quilted rug without a neck would be the next thing up, so I can then move up to the m/w neck rug when it hits below freezing.
He is unclipped but has always been treated more or less as clipped due to his fine coat. He has no cat hairs but has a little more coat around his neck/belly than at this time in previous years. He has been turned out since about October in a light weight rug during the day.
 
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It's so difficult as each horse is different when it comes to warmth as he is slim I would make sure he is warm enough so I would put the light weight quilt on and see how he goes, both my horses never seem to feel the cold and they are a good weight so the newly clipped one has a 100g turnout on at night and the hairier one is still in a no fill and they are still out at night, today they were out naked it was like a spring day here in the sun.

you could try adding some micronised linseed in his feed mine have it all year but have a bit extra in the winter to keep the weight on.
 
horses for courses - it depends on the individual but also on the arrangements. FWIW I would prefer a well ventilated stable with a good flow of air, and I'd just rug accordingly. I used to stable at a place that had open fronted barns for stables, divided into pens with gates. They were cold stables as they caught the breeze but the horses just wore whatever they needed, in very cold weather they had 2 combos on.

Mine are in a closed stone barn now. up to about 6-7 degrees they have sheets on, as the barn is quite warm inside and they are warm kind of horses anyway. Below that they have LW quilts. Kira didn't need anything more than that last year, Millie had a MW but I rarely put a neck on inside.

I feed ad lib hay so they have central heating from within. Both of mine are clipped out.
 
I don't think you should worry about the rugging threads on here. You have to rug for your horses needs, and you will know him best. It sounds like you are keeping a good close eye on him anyway. I'm sure u know this but making aure he has adlib forage (making sure he has stuff left in the morning)will be just as important as getting the rugs right
 
Thanks everyone. I will put his lightweight quilt on tonight and see how he gets on. Just keen for him not to lose anymore weight. I am a little unsure of the hay as I am now buying a round bale off a supplier as we have to supply our own hay and not sure how long it will last. Time will tell I guess.
 
Every horse is different so you need to check their temperature and adjust accordingly. Personally I prefer to have them fractionally too cold rather than too warm.

Mine is currently unclipped and is in his back on track mesh rug with a lightweight stable on top. One he's clipped I'll put a MW stable on. I never use a neck in the stable unless it's going to be -10.
 
I opted for the medium weight with neck in the end as the forecast told me it would be down to 2c at 2am this morning. Not sure how warm he was this morning as I have to be at work for 7am so couldn't go up before work but will ask the staff this morning how he fared.

He's also got a 'light weight' turnout with a fleece type of lining (an ancient old style design of rug I found in the loft) to start him off during this winter whilst turned out for half a day in the paddock. It was the lightest thing I could find that still offered a bit of warmth.
 
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