tango'smum
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backs are good... fronts have rotated.. right worse than left...hes been trimmed by a proper farrier, both vet and farrier are happier with how his feet look...
my boys x-rays...
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backs are good... fronts have rotated.. right worse than left...hes been trimmed by a proper farrier, both vet and farrier are happier with how his feet look...
be positive
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They are very similar to how my pony was, he is now sound and just starting ridden exercise again, the main thing is to keep regular trims now to gradually get the balance correct, mine is trimmed every 4 weeks, it was more often early on as they grow so quickly.
Hope your boy continues improving for you.
Hope your boy continues improving for you.
tango'smum
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thankyou, hes going to be trimmed every 4 weeks.. may put shoes on in a month or 2... vet and farrier said i could start riding him again i a week or so...
just gently in the school, to see how he is...
Nocturnal
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Was the marker put right to the top of the hoof capsule, below the hairline?
The hinds look slightly rotated to me, did the vet say there was no rotation?
Thanks for posting btw, rads are always interesting to look at.
The hinds look slightly rotated to me, did the vet say there was no rotation?
Thanks for posting btw, rads are always interesting to look at
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tango'smum
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Was the marker put right to the top of the hoof capsule, below the hairline?
The hinds look slightly rotated to me, did the vet say there was no rotation?
Thanks for posting btw, rads are always interesting to look at
i think he said very slightly, but wasnt worried about the backs....
ILuvCowparsely
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I agree with you nocturnaL the hind does a little
my mares off fore is worst as well. Glad he is improving.
I was told by a vet to put cornucresine on daily into coronet to help stimulate the horn.
my mares off fore is worst as well. Glad he is improving
.I was told by a vet to put cornucresine on daily into coronet to help stimulate the horn.
tango'smum
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I agree with you nocturnaL the hind does a little
my mares off fore is worst as well. Glad he is improving
I was told by a vet to put cornucresine on daily into coronet to help stimulate the horn.
we dont want to encourage the hoof to grow... i was always told that with laminitics...
but yes its all looking good..
ILuvCowparsely
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we dont want to encourage the hoof to grow... i was always told that with laminitics...
but yes its all looking good..
Really?? I have no been told that, My vet and farrier want to encourage the hoof to grow so
a. the damage can grow out and
b. the foot gets more and more new horn to help stabilize
but while my mare has the dry poultice i cant but was putting it on every day massaging it in
the vet experienced this with her mare with lami so once her dry poultice is off i will start putting it on again.
We need her hoof to grow as the initial damage from the laminitis has only grown half way down so i need her hoof to grow.
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tango'smum
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Really?? I have no been told that, My vet and farrier want to encourage the hoof to grow so
a. the damage can grow out and
b. the foot gets more and more new horn to help stabilize
but while my mare has the dry poultice i cant but was putting it on every day massaging it in
the vet experienced this with her mare with lami so once her dry poultice is off i will start putting it on again.
We need her hoof to grow as the initial damage from the laminitis has only grown half way down so i need her hoof to grow.
tango's feet grow to quick... he dont need encouraging lol...
ILuvCowparsely
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you lucky
but one thing we are blessed with is very very very very very very very hard feet. like concrete which is why she has made it this far. my farrier keeps saying he has to sharpen his tools extra before he does her feet lol
tango'smum
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you lucky
my vet and farrier both said he has good strong feet.... after he trimmed him he wanted to see him walk, i asked to trot him as i thought he was lame behind, he said yes but he will be sore. he wasnt he trotted as if there was nothing wrong . vet couldnt belive it. so with the right trim he almost cured... never going back to a barefoot trimmer...who has 2 days training and know it all....
Waltzing Matilda
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2days training does not a barefoot trimmer make!!
TheCurlyPony
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my vet and farrier both said he has good strong feet.... after he trimmed him he wanted to see him walk, i asked to trot him as i thought he was lame behind, he said yes but he will be sore. he wasnt he trotted as if there was nothing wrong . vet couldnt belive it. so with the right trim he almost cured... never going back to a barefoot trimmer...who has 2 days training and know it all....
Sorry have to ask, why would you use a trimmer who has only had two days training.
tango'smum
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Sorry have to ask, why would you use a trimmer who has only had two days training.
i didnt know..
untill yesterday..... vet told me... so angry with myself..Waltzing Matilda
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Does the vet know this specific trimmer then? Just to be an actually eqine podistrist it's a min of a 1 yr (and some r a 2 yr course). There r LOTs of disections as well as theory and practice trimming with several exams send case studies. It's really quite intensive training. Also u have to get a min if
Waltzing Matilda
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Of 80 % to pass the exams. Most other educational course u only have to get 40% to pass!!!
Waltzing Matilda
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I believe the 2 day course is to raise owners awareness and provide enough info for them to do a maintenance trim on their own horse only between EP visits!! I also would not let sum one with only 2 days training do my horses feet. However I wiuld b extremely cautious about letting a farrier near my horses feet either!! I would always find a qualified EP if I was unable to do it myself.
quirky
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i didnt know..
Don't be angry with yourself. Some people can be so convincing
.I hope he goes from strength to strength! My laminitic was put on farriers formulae to encourage his feet to grow. Unfortunately, they grew too well. He had a frog support taped to one of his feet with vet wrap and when we turned up at the vet for x-rays, he untaped the foot, only for lots of it to come away as the hoof wall was so thin.
Anyway, with much hard work by my farrier, my lovely, lovely boy came back into full work.
I wish you all the luck in getting him back to full fitness.
Waltzing Matilda
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Out of interest did the vet re xray after the trim to c the angles of the pedal bone? Personally I would have been very cautious about trotting a horse with front xrsays like that. Did the vet say what % rotation had occurred? Did they advise hand walking first? Would b curious to c pics of actual feet post trim
TheCurlyPony
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i didnt know..
Dont beat yoursef up over it, what is done is done. But you can at least now move forward. I have a Navicular pony. It was a big learning curve for me. Try and use people through recommendation, especally when something is new to you like trimmers. Good Luck.
ILuvCowparsely
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As above don't beat yourself up. Trouble is in real life people say they are qualified but might have only done the training not passed the exam.
On here the same no one knows the qualified or lack on exams they have.
Once you have a good vet and good farrier your on the right road.
Contrary to some one here , that say be wary of my advice. I really can't see how they can justify a statement like that. as:
The treatment along the way improved things
the medication " "
the advice improved things .
Again my advice is my experience which I am prepared to share with a selected few if they wish to listen .
Some times to hear their journey prepares you for what could come round the corner.
This is exactly whats happening with another member who's horses is doing what my mare did at one time. I got vet and antibiotics and she got through it. This could help a horse or pony with that warning if you want it its there.
And I cant see my advice as poor when just recently we had a major breakthrough.
Sometimes the best people to advice is others that gone through something and come out the other side. yes no lami is the same but for 1 in maybe 5 it is.
On here the same no one knows the qualified or lack on exams they have.
Once you have a good vet and good farrier your on the right road.
Contrary to some one here , that say be wary of my advice. I really can't see how they can justify a statement like that. as:
The treatment along the way improved things
the medication " "
the advice improved things .
Again my advice is my experience which I am prepared to share with a selected few if they wish to listen .
Some times to hear their journey prepares you for what could come round the corner.
This is exactly whats happening with another member who's horses is doing what my mare did at one time. I got vet and antibiotics and she got through it. This could help a horse or pony with that warning if you want it its there.
And I cant see my advice as poor when just recently we had a major breakthrough
.Sometimes the best people to advice is others that gone through something and come out the other side. yes no lami is the same but for 1 in maybe 5 it is.
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tango'smum
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the xrays were done 1 week after trim...
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tango'smum
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Out of interest did the vet re xray after the trim to c the angles of the pedal bone? Personally I would have been very cautious about trotting a horse with front xrsays like that. Did the vet say what % rotation had occurred? Did they advise hand walking first? Would b curious to c pics of actual feet post trim
hes going to xray again in a couple of months...i'll get some pics of his feet...
tango'smum
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after his trim by a remedial farrier..
Waltzing Matilda
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I would say from the bruising and growth rings ur horse has had an attack of lami!!!! I am not trying to defend the trimmer if they did only have 2 days training but contrary to popular belief there is proper training available. And they may not have been able prevent this. On the other hand they had they had proper training they may have been able to offer u advice to have avoided this. I don't know how long u had had this trimmer for?
He has flat soles which does not indicate a strong foot. It shows that the structures at the back of the foot r weak. As the strengthen they will create the concavity in the sole that indicates a strong healthy foot.
I would start off with inhand walking eeither on grass or Keith boots and maybe padsndor 10 mins and gradually build up b4 u ride. I would also recommend xrays again b4 u ride. I wouldn't personally ride with rotation like that.
Just my opinion.
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He has flat soles which does not indicate a strong foot. It shows that the structures at the back of the foot r weak. As the strengthen they will create the concavity in the sole that indicates a strong healthy foot.
I would start off with inhand walking eeither on grass or Keith boots and maybe padsndor 10 mins and gradually build up b4 u ride. I would also recommend xrays again b4 u ride. I wouldn't personally ride with rotation like that.
Just my opinion.
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Waltzing Matilda
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What's his diet and grass access like? X
tango'smum
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been in for 3 weeks. hes having fast fibre 2 kg a day.. 4 kg soaked haylage mornings and 6 kg soaked haylage over night, hes loosing weight so i've up'ed it a bit....vet said he can out out for an hour a day. inhand walk in the sand school and build it up....hes been barefoot since november time last yr....hes being x-rayed in a few months.. farrier is coming every 4 weeks untill hes right....
Wagtail
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As above don't beat yourself up. Trouble is in real life people say they are qualified but might have only done the training not passed the exam.
On here the same no one knows the qualified or lack on exams they have.
Once you have a good vet and good farrier your on the right road.
Contrary to some one here , that say be wary of my advice. I really can't see how they can justify a statement like that. as:
The treatment along the way improved things
the medication " "
the advice improved things .
Again my advice is my experience which I am prepared to share with a selected few if they wish to listen .
Some times to hear their journey prepares you for what could come round the corner.
This is exactly whats happening with another member who's horses is doing what my mare did at one time. I got vet and antibiotics and she got through it. This could help a horse or pony with that warning if you want it its there.
And I cant see my advice as poor when just recently we had a major breakthrough
Sometimes the best people to advice is others that gone through something and come out the other side. yes no lami is the same but for 1 in maybe 5 it is.
Leviathan, how is your mare doing now? Are you walking her out yet?
tango'smum
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ok maybe not 2 days training.. but they could off helped prevent this happening by keeping the toe's short.. and lowering the heels...
Waltzing Matilda
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Quite possibly but I cant comment on that as haven't seen pics from before only after the farrier trim. However may still have happened if was caused by lami. Nutrition may have played a bigger role than the actual trim given the grass this year. I have also seen.many farrier trirms where the heels r long and the role is long but looks shorter as the farrier has dubbed it. Not defending anyone that trims for other people after only 2 days training as it also gives proper trimmers a bad name, but I hope vet knows this and is not just making the assumption as so many people do that all trimmers only have a weekend's course in trimming. That is not the case.
I hope ur horses is on the mend now. Xx
I hope ur horses is on the mend now. Xx