Nagging YO!

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I didn't really know what to put for the title, maybe it should read pedantic!
I moved here in May as many of you may remember, moving from one of the many yards from hell :)
I was provided with a good field, suitable grazing for the laminitic, plus I am allowed to divide the field up as I want, which is great. After a few days of them being in for some time of the day, the grazing was eaten down enough that they could go out 24/7 for the summer, as they usually do. They had fly rugs on, trees for shelter from the sun and sufficient grazing, strip grazing every day. Water had to be hosed up every day, which I did.
There were five other horses there, three liveries plus my two chaps. Two of the liveries were also out 24/7 in the next field. Anyway, they took their horses away on holiday and after they had left, they told YO they weren't returning. I was then given their field, which was a mess. I poo picked seven barrows out, mended the fences and set up the next lot of fencing. I was then told that they weren't allowed out 24/7 and had to come in during the day. She said it was written in the contract (it isn't) She said it was far too hot for them (they are always fine, even last year when it was even hotter where they were) so I thought I'd go along with it. She also said that they aren't allowed to have hay in the field, which I am fairly certain she agreed to prior to my move. She also complained that the previous liveries hadn't poo picked very often and said it was written in the contract (it isn't).
Last week she said she was keeping hers out at night till December and when I asked if it was ok to do the same and just change over to nights in when the old chap needs it, she said that was fine. Then two days later, she said they all have to be on night time routine by the end of next month. She put rug racks up outside our stables, but we aren't allowed to put mucky rugs on them, I am not allowed to buy round bale hay or straw because it will upset her storage solution, but we all have our own, she often forgets what we have told her, even if we write it down and text and message her. I went away last weekend and gave her strict instructions, emphasised loads, that they must have lots of hay and I said she probably would need help to hang their nets as they have so much, but I came back to two much thinner chaps. She keeps saying how wonderful she is and the place is, but apart from the hacking being great as it's close to the moor, it's pretty average. There is no school, she's threatening to reduce grazing to 2 hours a day in the winter, and she bitches about her OH quite a bit. We all get on with him fine, but whenever she wants anything done or changed, she says her OH is giving her grief. I can have square bales delivered, but even though she has a tractor, she says her OH won't allow it to be used to arrange the hay and straw. The others have big bales of haylage delivered, but when I tried it on mine, it didn't agree with them. The guy who delivers that arranges the bales for them. She bangs on about no other yard including turn out or bringing in in the cost, about providing holiday and sick livery, and doesn't understand that the others left because she was interfering. She seems to think she knows it all, diagnoses our horses if there's the slightest thing wrong, but her own horses are vastly overweight. She was very rude about my hair and has had lots of plastic surgery done. It's kind of reached the stage I try to make sure I don't have much to do with her now. She doesn't have children, has just turned 60. She's the same with all of us, which is a good thing, but just really weird. One day she wants to know what's going on with mine, the next she says just do as I like. I don't want to move again, horses are settled and happy and hacking is fab. Other liveries are great and we all get on well. So I guess this is just a general, does anyone else have similar issues? :rolleyes:
 
Mmmmmm hard you can’t change people so you have to balance the good against the bad and decide what you want join the livery merry go round again or work with this YOers peculiarities.
Can’t you ignore her ?
I know it’s getting it all off your chest .
But what on earth has the fact she has had plastic surgery got to do with any thing ?
 
Next time she says something is in the contract, get your copy out and ask her to show you. If you do that every time, she may give up, she does it because she can get away with it. But it is her land, her rules, so if that strategy doesn't work, or if the situation continues to get you down, all you can do is leave for somewhere that suits you better.
 
Just sounds like people to me. Most people irritate me, so I generally ignore them. Being old, childless and surgically enhanced would seem to be completely irrelevant.
 
Just wanted to share some sympathy.
I'm in a not dissimilar position with my YO- I've been given notice 3 times this year and she's changed her mind within between 10 minutes and 24 hours each time. She's constantly chopping and changing field arrangements, rules on poo picking, never sweeps up (not even after the farrier or if her horse does a dropping) but the time I left 2 cotton balls on the ground she threw a massive wobbly and so on.
I keep my head down as we have great hacking, I'm in an area where I have a great instructor and farrier/vet/chirp team and I can ride in the fields and it's cheap. She's the same with the other livery so we just get on with things tbh.
Ultimately though, it's her yard, so if we don't like it we could move.
So I do understand how wearing it can be when things aren't quite as you'd like and there's nothing you can do but the other perks of being there mean you end up staying!
 
Being old, childless and surgically enhanced would seem to be completely irrelevant.
I can't recall age, had children and not had plastic surgery ever being on the checklists when people post about what to look for when viewing a new livery yard but if it's relevant to the OP then they must add it to their checklist if/when looking at new yards.
 
If I had a laminitic then serving hay in the field would be part of my management of the condition, once rationed grass eaten down. I couldn't bear to have to stable So much. only allowing two hours a day during the winter sounds awfully restrictive. Id choose to leave If grazing that bad over winter that two hours is the maximum It can cope with. Can understand when temporary measures may be needed e.g. heavy rain etc to protect field from getting ruined but that's all.
 
With all of us. This afternoon she was well arsey, then by tea time she was fine.
The description of her was just that, a description :)
I just get tired of us being on the receiving end of her moods when anything, however small, goes wrong with her life. We all get it in the neck and then, when we keep our heads down, that's wrong too!
 
I'm concerned that there's one, very obvious, common factor in all of your nightmare yards.

Maybe it's time to rethink and make it simple. Write down clear instructions for how each horse is to be looked after. Laminate and stick to stable door.
 
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Am I not allowed to describe anyone???????? LOL

I think its that it was more the lack of relevance of it so it came across judgemental.

I know its good to vent and if its not suiting you there are always other places you could try, some people make lots of moves until they find somewhere both they like and their horses are happy. With anywhere there are compromises its just which ones you are prepared to make.
 
There are a lot of horse people who seem to have no social skills, or tact, what so ever, and think that just because they own a yard, we should worship the ground they walk on.

I've been where you are before, despite never causing any trouble, being tidy, paying my bill as soon as it comes through etc. and it's horrid!
 
I'm concerned that there's one, very obvious, common factor in all of your nightmare yards.

Maybe it's time to rethink and make it simple. Write down clear instructions for how each horse is to be looked after. Laminate and stick to stable door.

You would think this was fool proof wouldn't you. We technically have this at our yard, metal name plates that we can write on with markers and wipe of change as necessary.
Problem is "Oh I forgot to check the instructions" or "I didn't noticed they'd changed" " Or but it was really cold when we turned out" or some excuse for doings completely different to on the list...
 
You would think this was fool proof wouldn't you. We technically have this at our yard, metal name plates that we can write on with markers and wipe of change as necessary.
Problem is "Oh I forgot to check the instructions" or "I didn't noticed they'd changed" " Or but it was really cold when we turned out" or some excuse for doings completely different to on the list...

We use this at our yard to and it isn't perfect but if OP has nothing in place but conversation and text message, this might be a huge step in the right direction.

It's easy to moan and blame but more useful to think of how to help to prevent the same mistakes reoccurring.
 
I put up a board above my feed bins and write my week’s shifts out for her. She also has their daily feed list and haynet needs. She said she would put them on my board when I gave them to her, but she hasn’t, so I shall write out some more. I put every tiny detail down, but still it goes wrong as she thinks she knows best. I incurred a vets bill last summer because she was sure the older pony was going blind and wouldn’t stop banging on about it. Vet came out, nothing wrong with eyes. I told her this week that this being in during the day was causing me massive financial strain with the hay and bedding, and that there was nothing on the contract to say we had to do it. Her response was that she wasn’t going to argue and walked away. I do get mine back out as soon as possible, yesterday they were out by 3 as she wasn’t there and it was a lovely day, and today I’m working eves so they are still out at the moment. She also said she was around all the time, but in actual fact she works most days, so yard is left unattended.
 
It's not a nightmare, I am just very frustrated that no matter how I communicate with her, she is still capable of getting it wrong. She has two miniatures of her own to look after and a mare that she rides, other than that, she only has to check which end of the day I've asked her to bring in or turn out. All clearly written out, but still mistakes happen or she decides that they don't need rugs. She does have a habit of making decisions about them that aren't in their best interests.
 
I put up a board above my feed bins and write my week?s shifts out for her. She also has their daily feed list and haynet needs. She said she would put them on my board when I gave them to her, but she hasn?t, so I shall write out some more. I put every tiny detail down, but still it goes wrong as she thinks she knows best. I incurred a vets bill last summer because she was sure the older pony was going blind and wouldn?t stop banging on about it. Vet came out, nothing wrong with eyes. I told her this week that this being in during the day was causing me massive financial strain with the hay and bedding, and that there was nothing on the contract to say we had to do it. Her response was that she wasn?t going to argue and walked away. I do get mine back out as soon as possible, yesterday they were out by 3 as she wasn?t there and it was a lovely day, and today I?m working eves so they are still out at the moment. She also said she was around all the time, but in actual fact she works most days, so yard is left unattended.

TBH it just sounds like you are not happy with the service you are being offered. You can't make a person change personality or change what they offer. You are a customer and have a right to leave if the service is not what you like. I think you would be happier if you moved yards.
 
This is the third or fourth Yard problem you’ve had? I’ve lost count to be honest.

As above, there is an obvious common denominator in all of them I’m afraid.
 
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