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This post will probably be deleted, but what the heck.

6 weeks ago I answered a post from a HHO'er called Rache. She wanted to try a NS Verbindend bit. I foolishly posted a valuable bit to her. She received it and said it didn't fit, so she would send it back. Needless to say, it has not arrived back and now she refuses to answer any of my emails or letters.

So, if you are out there Rachel, I hope you feel ashamed of yourself. I thought I was being a decent person in loaning you an expensive piece of kit, just shows what an idiot I am.
 
Sadly, the past few weeks have not been good for HHO :( Between find out that there were some dodgy dealers to bullying forum members to this.. That is really poor form - does this member still visit the HHO forums?
 
Sadly, as any of the Bit Hire firms will tell you, there is a very small minority of dishonest people who use this service, and when a reminder is sent, return it marked "Gone Away" , Redress throught the Small Claims courts produces the same results. It is tempting to suggest that all retailers got together, and exchanged information on this small minoriity who spoil it for others, and decline to trade with them.
 
oh yes, she was on last night, I have sent PMs etc, but after inititally replying, she has gone to ground. I feel really stupid, I thought I was doing her a favour. How naive is that.
 
On a wider scale I really think there should be a name and shame board. Some of the horror stories of genuine people being shafted by rogue dealers is awful.

Surely the ' if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear' adage should be right and in this way horse sports could clean its act up for the benefit of everyone and the genuine dealer will have more business if the rogues are put out of business.

I know its a minefield of defamation but some sort of ' kitemark' of good practice would help everyone .

OP I really hope you get your bit back, it leaves a bad taste to help someone out and this happens.
 
Just a thought - do you have any idea of where this person is? then maybe someone else could collect it?

You might be lucky though - post is really slow at the moment with the backlog of the snow plus christmas cards...
 
Luci07 said:
Just a thought - do you have any idea of where this person is? then maybe someone else could collect it?
You might be lucky though - post is really slow at the moment with the backlog of the snow plus christmas cards...
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That's a good point, you must have her address - you posted the bit to her, can you pay her a visit?

What area does she live in? you may even be able to find her phone number if you google her name and address?

I sent a member on here a piece of equipment I never heard a thing after, I didn't really want it back but a thank you or even an upadate would have been good manners but I have never heard a thing!
 
Yes, I have her address, it's miles from me, and I have sent her another letter asking for the bit back, but she is ignoring me. She is ignoring my PM's too.
 
I feel your pain. Almost three years ago now I lent a Bonner Bandage to someone who posted as TOPHORSE on here for a tendon injury on their horse as she seemed a decent person. She is in Scotland, I'm in Cheshire. I've never had it back, she's not answering anything at all and I feel royally pee'd off with her as those things aren't cheap either, almost feel like doing her for theft except it was a loan in the first place and not worth it for something costing nearly £50. I even told her I needed to use it on one of mine as well and still no reaction. Shame on you TOPHORSE - and Rayche too. Hope you get a result OP.
 
Hi BigRed

It's such a shame that some have to spoil things in this way :(
I know the culprit isn't replying to you, but have you considered taking legal advice from somewhere free like the CAB to see if there is anything you can do? They might be prepared to send a solicitor's letter for you which may spur her into action. At the very least, they will be able to advise you on recovery etc.
 
This is a real shame!

I love this forum as it is in my eyes a real lovely community. I always get lovely repsonses to my posts and if anyone had any advice for me id accept it gratefully as i believe 99% of people are on here to help others and recieve support from other users in return. Very few are on here to make themselves look big by belittling others. So to read this is a real shame!

This is my little haven i go to to escape from the office, or to put my mind at ease when i have a horsey problem im not sure of, and its a shame that there are some people online who dont respect other users, or are on here for the wrong reasons

I hope you get your bit back, i really do! Especially a NS theyre bloody brilliant!
 
Thats the trouble with these forums. You think that you know/are friends with people, when really 99% of them are strangers. Its easy to want to help someone, and very nice of you, but you should never really go further than advice, unless the person lives very close to you and you can meet up...
 
*hic* said:
I see her friend Madz is currently online and viewing this thread . . .
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Oh well, in that case:

Speak to lawyers. See if you can get the bailiffs sent round - you get the bit back and the thief is hit up with some hefty bailiff expenses too (or of course they might just take some of her property to settle the account). Perhaps the thief's friend could suggest returning the bit as a more satisfactory and pain free alternative? ;)
 
I was once selling a few horsey bits and bobs, and a nice member wanted some numnahs, she sent me a cheque, I then moved house and forgot to send the items, but lo and behold found the cheque!

It's never been cashed.

Shame on that person - lets hope there's a genuine answer.
 
Can I just make clear that the forum user Big Red has the problem with is Rache and NOT Raych who is another user entirely and who has now left the forum.
 
Madz said:
sorry just seen this, could someone pm me what this is about as I only realised who this was linked too when you mentioned my username!
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Hi

Hopefully the OP has now contacted you in case you can give Rache a bit of a prod, sorry to drag you in to it but obviously it's not good for anyone that someone is believed to have something to which they appear not to be entitled.
 
that's fair enough, I totally understand! Anyway I can help I'm happy too

I don't know the user in person and I don't often talk to them, but I do know of them through another forum and possibly facebook, I'll go look and see if I have any contact details that will perhaps prove a little more successful!
 
OP, if you start a new thread with "is Rache around, or any of her friends" you might manage to get a phone number for her. she might just be being busy/forgetful/useless as opposed to a thief...
must admit, I lent a few bits to a HHOer and it took absolutely ages and lots of reminders to get them back, I'm more careful now. With expensive bits such as the Hippus ones I ask for full payment, and then refund it if the bit's not right, that way I'm not worrying about being out of pocket.
There are some horrible HHOers (I won't name and shame, but I know one I'll be happy if I never see again, I did a lot for her and then got v badly treated) but also lots of absolutely lovely ones. :) :)
 
I agree, I would wait and see if there is a genuine reason for the non-return, but in the meantime, if anyone would like to send me anything expensive/useful I will happily send you my invaluable chesty cold in return :D They really are priceless!
 
Thanks for your support. I think after numerous emails and a couple of letters she might have got the clue that I expect the bit back. I have now obtained her phone number. So I will call her tonight and try to see why she is not playing the game.
 
Wow, i know it takes all sorts to build a community but these people are disgustingly low. It's sad to see so many cases of people genuinely trying to help and getting slapped in the face. I know it is a minority, but it is a sad statement about the world we live in today.
 
Sadly BR you are not alone. I too, have loaned (and made it clear it was only a loan) expensive bits of kit to people through other chatrooms and never seen them again.:mad: I don't do it anymore. I also gave a chatroom 'acquaintance', again from another site, 4 pairs of expensive jods and breeches and 2 pairs of suede chaps that I had no use for after losing a lot of weight. All I asked for was for her to pay the postage which came to the princely sum of £8. I packaged it all up, posted it off and then never heard from her again. I even emailed her afterwards to say not to worry about the postage but would she be kind enough to let me know whether she actually received them..............not a dicky bird. I know she did get them as someone else who rode with her told me that she had. I see her on the other chatroom and on here, it must be nice to be given, what cost me, over £400 worth of quality riding gear from a stranger, shame it's never happened to me!!:o
Good luck and I hope that she has your bit and gets it back to you asap.
 
Maesfen said:
I feel your pain. Almost three years ago now I lent a Bonner Bandage to someone who posted as TOPHORSE on here for a tendon injury on their horse as she seemed a decent person. She is in Scotland, I'm in Cheshire. I've never had it back, she's not answering anything at all and I feel royally pee'd off with her as those things aren't cheap either, almost feel like doing her for theft except it was a loan in the first place and not worth it for something costing nearly £50. I even told her I needed to use it on one of mine as well and still no reaction. Shame on you TOPHORSE - and Rayche too. Hope you get a result OP.
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Whereabouts in Scotland? Perhahaps one of us Scotland based folks are near her yard and know her? I am in West Lothian :-)
 
munketytunkety said:
Sadly BR you are not alone. I too, have loaned (and made it clear it was only a loan) expensive bits of kit to people through other chatrooms and never seen them again.:mad: I don't do it anymore. I also gave a chatroom 'acquaintance', again from another site, 4 pairs of expensive jods and breeches and 2 pairs of suede chaps that I had no use for after losing a lot of weight. All I asked for was for her to pay the postage which came to the princely sum of £8. I packaged it all up, posted it off and then never heard from her again. I even emailed her afterwards to say not to worry about the postage but would she be kind enough to let me know whether she actually received them..............not a dicky bird. I know she did get them as someone else who rode with her told me that she had. I see her on the other chatroom and on here, it must be nice to be given, what cost me, over £400 worth of quality riding gear from a stranger, shame it's never happened to me!!:o
Good luck and I hope that she has your bit and gets it back to you asap.
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That is just shocking! What a lovely thing to do, it is just indecent to behave like that in return. Please don't let the bad eggs prevent you from being kind.
 
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