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Just simply loving life with Orbi 🥰
I agree with this, he certainly doesn’t look to me to be in any pain. It looks naughty to me
Nappy broncing pony
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sbloom
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Naughty, awkward, lazy? I really hope we're moving beyond that.
TheMule
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I don’t think any of the videos show enough for anyone to watch and make a recommendation on whether the pony is ok or not ok. You need a vet and the involvement of a good trainer once the vet gives the ok.
The rider needs to learn to sit up and keep the pony's head up- that's just experience, a good core and a bit of determination! But I would advise a full MOT first
The rider needs to learn to sit up and keep the pony's head up- that's just experience, a good core and a bit of determination! But I would advise a full MOT first
scats
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I also don’t think he’s quite sound on corners. Perhaps a bit of discomfort that’s causing him more of a problem in canter? So my first line of enquiry would be SI, hocks, suspensories. Might be worth ruling those out before you crack on.
WelshD
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These ponies with showing backgrounds can have very high mileage joints. I wonder if he has previously had his hocks injected and now its worn off. I'd expect a pony of his breed to be powering along from the hind (and he does seem to do that much better on grass) but his movement in that school is definitely more stilted.
Another line of enquiry not mentioned is ulcers, its a sad fact that many ponies (especially dark coloured ones) who have come from showing homes have not always had the turnout they need and combined with hard feed and lots of travelling this can result in stress but in your case I would start with the hocks and back.
obviously look for the cause but in the meantime consider a pair of balance support reins to help your daughter with his front end short term.
Another line of enquiry not mentioned is ulcers, its a sad fact that many ponies (especially dark coloured ones) who have come from showing homes have not always had the turnout they need and combined with hard feed and lots of travelling this can result in stress but in your case I would start with the hocks and back.
obviously look for the cause but in the meantime consider a pair of balance support reins to help your daughter with his front end short term.
Dynamo
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This and this. Pony is definitely unsound behind on corners on a soft surface. No ifs, buts or maybes about it. Pointless getting saddle fitter, chiro, etc. You need a veterinary work up under saddle, not on the lunge without a rider, and show the videos to the vet, including the different surfaces. Insist on investigating hock, stifle and SI. The indoor surface is completely different from the rubber outdoor surface and it is the latter that is irritating whatever is amiss, particularly on corners. It may feel similar underfoot, but trust me, the smallest differences in arena surface can highlight a physical issue. In straight lines cantering up hill he is able to manage. On a firm indoor surface in a large area where corners are wider he is able to manage. Hacking out he is able to manage. On the rubber outdoor surface the extra millimetres of give in the rubber, coupled with the tighter turns, are showing that the pony is unsound and in discomfort. Don't get fobbed off by an inexperienced vet and don't spend money on non-veterinary interventions at this stage.
You have a lovely pony and very, very nice rider and it will be well worth it for them.
bz88
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Update. Sore back and saddle doesn’t fit.
he isn’t lame.
thank you to anyone who replied
he isn’t lame.
thank you to anyone who replied
maya2008
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That’s a good outcome, easy to fix with time off and a new saddle. Perhaps your saddle fitter could show your daughter how to check the fit so you know before the bucking starts next time? Most are happy to help clients know when they need to call them out!
AWinter
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So you literally found a pain issue and your instructor still says he’s just annoyed at having to work harder……
bz88
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Hi all! Thank you so much for all your replies and support. Who would have known strangers on the internet would be so supportive! Here’s an update.
vet didn’t want to see our pony as per previous checks she didn’t have any concerns so physio came out. Sore back due to not fitting saddle. Pony had treatment and electro therapy and he’s on the mend. Saddler came out confirming that saddle does not fit him. She brought our new saddle which we were waiting for three months and I doesn’t fit! Pony lost so much weight which is a good thing! Luckily she had another saddle with her which she tried and it fit him just right. It’s temporary saddle until our new one gets adjusted but as long he’s comfortable that’s all it matters. With treatment, few days off and new saddle he’s back to himself! We will still take easy on him until we make sure his saddle fits him properly.https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cp-3RIkjoKy/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
vet didn’t want to see our pony as per previous checks she didn’t have any concerns so physio came out. Sore back due to not fitting saddle. Pony had treatment and electro therapy and he’s on the mend. Saddler came out confirming that saddle does not fit him. She brought our new saddle which we were waiting for three months and I doesn’t fit! Pony lost so much weight which is a good thing! Luckily she had another saddle with her which she tried and it fit him just right. It’s temporary saddle until our new one gets adjusted but as long he’s comfortable that’s all it matters. With treatment, few days off and new saddle he’s back to himself! We will still take easy on him until we make sure his saddle fits him properly.https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cp-3RIkjoKy/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
bz88
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Sophie Christy-Cook on Instagram: "Testing new saddle. Wilson was displaying very out of character behaviour last Sunday, he was broncing, bucking and bolting for England and we knew something isn’t right. We had physio seeing him and it turned out
29 likes, 2 comments - sophie_and_wilson on March 19, 2023: "Testing new saddle. Wilson was displaying very out of character behaviour last Sunday, he was broncing, bucking and bolting for England and we knew something isn’t right. We had physio seeing him and it turned out he was back sore and...
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Barton Bounty
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Fab news!!! He is super cute!!!! He looks like a cracking pony 
Pinkvboots
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He definitely looks better.
mustardsmum
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That’s a much happier picture! Glad you resolved the saddle issue 
Your daughter will have heaps of fun with him!
Your daughter will have heaps of fun with him!
AmyMay
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Sophie Christy-Cook on Instagram: "Testing new saddle. Wilson was displaying very out of character behaviour last Sunday, he was broncing, bucking and bolting for England and we knew something isn’t right. We had physio seeing him and it turned out
29 likes, 2 comments - sophie_and_wilson on March 19, 2023: "Testing new saddle. Wilson was displaying very out of character behaviour last Sunday, he was broncing, bucking and bolting for England and we knew something isn’t right. We had physio seeing him and it turned out he was back sore and...
That looks fab. And what a cracking little jockey!!
Bobthecob15
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No she doesn't still say that, she now knows he also has 2 issues which have probably contributed. My point was some horses do behave differently when in less work than they were before
Bobthecob15
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Literally the same as our pony! Glad you got to the bottom of it x
Hormonal Filly
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Ah that’s fab! Lovely to see 