TeamTotilas
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Ok I'll private message you if i can work it out haha, was just checking that you are genuine and not going to pull me apart like some other people!
Need advice hellllpppppp !!!!!!!
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TeamTotilas
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Thanks everyone great advice!
KatB
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haha, no worries
skewbald_again
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Silly question but what is their reason for selling?
TS_
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If they're a big(ish) name eventer and it's a perfect horse I would be very warry as to why they're selling her? Surely no eventer in their right mind would sell a perfect horse, especially one that's so young and has the potential to be a great prospect for the furture. Are you sure the horse is as good as you think?
TeamTotilas
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Everythings for sale there! It was my idea to buy it, and she accepted it for that price. Just what you have to do if your earning a living out of it, I'm lucky to be able to have fun with it before I have to worry about that
And I know I keep saying it but it's just sooooooo great I love it!
And I know I keep saying it but it's just sooooooo great I love it!
CalllyH
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I know quite a few very nice horses for sale for less money than that
All of which will have alot of "potential"
I'm not for a minute asking so the owner can be blamed, it wouldnt bother me in the slightest having worked and been closely involved with a no. of eventing yards, some of which had horses with sarcoids!
I'm just asking out of interest to see whether it would genuinely be worth that price tag
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Katb - just out of interest is that water you are jumping into in the second pic?
I know quite a few very nice horses for sale for less money than that
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Katb - just out of interest is that water you are jumping into in the second pic?
Flame_
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No way has a question about buying a horse with sarcoids lead to a 4 page thread already.
The problem is insurance. If you were unlucky and the sarcoids did cause problems, you wouldn't be insured to treat them, or for LOU or LOA as a result of anything connected to them. I wouldn't risk it, unless it was cheap, but its a gamble and it really is up to you.
The problem is insurance. If you were unlucky and the sarcoids did cause problems, you wouldn't be insured to treat them, or for LOU or LOA as a result of anything connected to them. I wouldn't risk it, unless it was cheap, but its a gamble and it really is up to you.
KatB
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Yep!!
Its looks odd doesnt it?!! Was my 4yr olds first experience of water
dozzie
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The vet has seen them so only he can truly advise IMO. He is telling you there is a risk. It is up to you if you want to take that risk. If it was me I would want to know about the likelihood of the risks if possible. Maybe question the vet a bit more or do some more research and then question the vet.
There! That was helpful wasnt it?
There! That was helpful wasnt it?
skewbald_again
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Must be getting old.
Can't deal with a horse being an 'it'.
Can't deal with a horse being an 'it'.
Booboos
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Going against the current here, but I have bought a horse with sarcoids and would buy again on the grounds that 'sarcoid' covers a large number of lumps which behave differently and that any horse can develop sarcoids that did not previously have them.
Some sarcoids are self-contained, non-invasive lumps and may sometimes fall off all by themselves or through simple banding. Others are invasive, sore, prone to infections and secondary problems.
There are also specific issues with the citing of sarcoids, i.e. if they come into contact with tack.
From what you describe I would buy this horse. As for the price, that is up to you!
Some sarcoids are self-contained, non-invasive lumps and may sometimes fall off all by themselves or through simple banding. Others are invasive, sore, prone to infections and secondary problems.
There are also specific issues with the citing of sarcoids, i.e. if they come into contact with tack.
From what you describe I would buy this horse. As for the price, that is up to you!
soulfull
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Well if vet is not worried, knowing how difficult it is to find the right horse I think I would risk it. Especially if it was not recorded on the vetting
arwenplusone
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QR - how do you know that the sarcoids are not malignant?
They all can be.
They all can be.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
skewbald_again we have already had the whole 'it' debate and its not your age
arwenplusone
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TeamTotilas
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QR Mayflower -- The vet says they're not malignant, that's why I said that. I presume that they have the capability of changing, just like moles in humans. Thanks for the website, I'll check that out!
hadfos
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My lad had them on the inside of his hindleg/sheath/belly,treated with liverpool cream and 3yrs on no more
,worthwhile trying to build their immune system with a supplement before treatment though
Without seeing the sarcoids i couldnt say wether i would buy or not,they are horrid things and so unpredictable
,they may be fine until she is 8 and then errupt!
My vet basically said once treated and cleared highly unlikely they will develop more after the age of 10!
Without seeing the sarcoids i couldnt say wether i would buy or not,they are horrid things and so unpredictable
My vet basically said once treated and cleared highly unlikely they will develop more after the age of 10!
TeamTotilas
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hadfos -- maybe if this is the case I should wait until it's older for treatment.
ps LOVE your signature!
ps LOVE your signature!
hadfos
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I left his for quite a while but one in particular started to grow
,had they have remained unaltered i would have left alone,until the need arose to have them dealt with!!
However as others have said,insurance wont touch them so treatment would have to come out of your own pocket...personally the liverpool treatment wasnt to expensive for 1 course,but some it can take more than 1 treatment!
I wouldnt write her off,but i would have a serious conversation with owners about them,and as others have said quiz vet and get some answers as to the % chance of threm causing probs!
Thanx am getting tired of it now,feel the need for a horsey sig,lol!
However as others have said,insurance wont touch them so treatment would have to come out of your own pocket...personally the liverpool treatment wasnt to expensive for 1 course,but some it can take more than 1 treatment!
I wouldnt write her off,but i would have a serious conversation with owners about them,and as others have said quiz vet and get some answers as to the % chance of threm causing probs!
Thanx am getting tired of it now,feel the need for a horsey sig,lol!
hadfos
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hadfos -- maybe if this is the case I should wait until it's older for treatment.
ps LOVE your signature!
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Meant to add that age is no guarantee any treatment will work
,what my vet meant was if treated and you have a few yrs clear after the age of 10 they are unlikely to return,should have made that clearer sorry!
hadfos -- maybe if this is the case I should wait until it's older for treatment.
ps LOVE your signature!
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Meant to add that age is no guarantee any treatment will work
MrWoof
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Am looking at buying a 5yo mare that is perfect in almost everyway. She has been out competing at pre novice eventing all season, and has placed everytime out. Not only does she do a gorgeous test, she's the most honest jumper there is. She's friendly and sweet on the ground also. She's never once stopped, and not only that, I'm good friends with her owner and have ridden her several times, so I know her well. She's quite expensive, but she's an incredible horse. The only problem is it has sarcoids on the inside of one of its legs. The vet passed her on a 5 stage vetting because he thinks they are so insignificant and doesn't believe they will spread, but there is a risk. Does anyone else have a competitive horse that is going well despite sarcoids, or know of one? Or are you against them? This mare has the talent to go Advanced in the future, but if they will hinder her then I won't buy it. Help pleaseee!!!!!
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As you are well aware, these sarcoids could cause very serious problems in the future. Why not go and find a horse of the same quality and price - but minus the sarcoids. As for the vet, he should never have passed her on a 5-Star with sarcoids - they are ALWAYS a potential risk. Also, do not take any notice whatsoever of the various sarcastic comments posted by any "happy hackers" - they are just that.
Am looking at buying a 5yo mare that is perfect in almost everyway. She has been out competing at pre novice eventing all season, and has placed everytime out. Not only does she do a gorgeous test, she's the most honest jumper there is. She's friendly and sweet on the ground also. She's never once stopped, and not only that, I'm good friends with her owner and have ridden her several times, so I know her well. She's quite expensive, but she's an incredible horse. The only problem is it has sarcoids on the inside of one of its legs. The vet passed her on a 5 stage vetting because he thinks they are so insignificant and doesn't believe they will spread, but there is a risk. Does anyone else have a competitive horse that is going well despite sarcoids, or know of one? Or are you against them? This mare has the talent to go Advanced in the future, but if they will hinder her then I won't buy it. Help pleaseee!!!!!
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As you are well aware, these sarcoids could cause very serious problems in the future. Why not go and find a horse of the same quality and price - but minus the sarcoids. As for the vet, he should never have passed her on a 5-Star with sarcoids - they are ALWAYS a potential risk. Also, do not take any notice whatsoever of the various sarcastic comments posted by any "happy hackers" - they are just that.
hadfos
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Am looking at buying a 5yo mare that is perfect in almost everyway. She has been out competing at pre novice eventing all season, and has placed everytime out. Not only does she do a gorgeous test, she's the most honest jumper there is. She's friendly and sweet on the ground also. She's never once stopped, and not only that, I'm good friends with her owner and have ridden her several times, so I know her well. She's quite expensive, but she's an incredible horse. The only problem is it has sarcoids on the inside of one of its legs. The vet passed her on a 5 stage vetting because he thinks they are so insignificant and doesn't believe they will spread, but there is a risk. Does anyone else have a competitive horse that is going well despite sarcoids, or know of one? Or are you against them? This mare has the talent to go Advanced in the future, but if they will hinder her then I won't buy it. Help pleaseee!!!!!
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As you are well aware, these sarcoids could cause very serious problems in the future. Why not go and find a horse of the same quality and price - but minus the sarcoids. As for the vet, he should never have passed her on a 5-Star with sarcoids - they are ALWAYS a potential risk. Also, do not take any notice whatsoever of the various sarcastic comments posted by any "happy hackers" - they are just that.
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Am i missing something??I havnt posted any sarcastic comment and inbetween my little competitions/schooling(i dont compete to olympic level
)i am a happy hacker!Why does being a happy hacker make them less knowledgable than a top class showjumper
(i understand the sarcasm bit but who the hell do you think you are to basically say happy hackers no nothing??????)
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Am looking at buying a 5yo mare that is perfect in almost everyway. She has been out competing at pre novice eventing all season, and has placed everytime out. Not only does she do a gorgeous test, she's the most honest jumper there is. She's friendly and sweet on the ground also. She's never once stopped, and not only that, I'm good friends with her owner and have ridden her several times, so I know her well. She's quite expensive, but she's an incredible horse. The only problem is it has sarcoids on the inside of one of its legs. The vet passed her on a 5 stage vetting because he thinks they are so insignificant and doesn't believe they will spread, but there is a risk. Does anyone else have a competitive horse that is going well despite sarcoids, or know of one? Or are you against them? This mare has the talent to go Advanced in the future, but if they will hinder her then I won't buy it. Help pleaseee!!!!!
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As you are well aware, these sarcoids could cause very serious problems in the future. Why not go and find a horse of the same quality and price - but minus the sarcoids. As for the vet, he should never have passed her on a 5-Star with sarcoids - they are ALWAYS a potential risk. Also, do not take any notice whatsoever of the various sarcastic comments posted by any "happy hackers" - they are just that.
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Am i missing something??I havnt posted any sarcastic comment and inbetween my little competitions/schooling(i dont compete to olympic level
skewbald_again
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the term 'happy hacker' is not meant to be perjorative, but to describe someone who has no wish to compete at a higher level, and enjoys riding as a means of being outdoors, in communion with nature and animals, and as exercise. It is A Good Thing.
Unlike spoilt little madam, which has totally other connotations.
If indeed half of it is true, which I very much doubt, since I know a good number of young ladies who *actually* are in the position this one claims to be, and none of them would talk in such a dopey way, and neither would they be on here asking about sarcoids, which would have been explained to them by their retained vet, and they would in any case have covered for their 'A' test.
An expensive education normally wipes out such social ineptness really early on, and 'not finishing school' would not undo all that early work
I personally think it's all a fantasy, which makes it fine to play along.
Unlike spoilt little madam, which has totally other connotations.
If indeed half of it is true, which I very much doubt, since I know a good number of young ladies who *actually* are in the position this one claims to be, and none of them would talk in such a dopey way, and neither would they be on here asking about sarcoids, which would have been explained to them by their retained vet, and they would in any case have covered for their 'A' test.
An expensive education normally wipes out such social ineptness really early on, and 'not finishing school' would not undo all that early work
I personally think it's all a fantasy, which makes it fine to play along.
hadfos
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I need to read more posts,lol!!
Ranyhyn
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Agreed Skewby you talk a lot of sense!
ester
Not slacking multitasking
^^ ditto
sam1am
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Christ, some of ye lot are an unforgiving bunch.
Grow up and stop acting like spiteful children.
Grow up and stop acting like spiteful children.
skewbald_again
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Excuse, me, when you've quite finished blaspheming and throwing your straw out of your box, I am entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that this doesn't ring true.
I could be right, I could be wrong, but since to the best of my knowledge, no-one died and left you in charge, sam_i_am, I shall continue to express my opinion as I see fit.
I could be right, I could be wrong, but since to the best of my knowledge, no-one died and left you in charge, sam_i_am, I shall continue to express my opinion as I see fit.
3Beasties
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My horse Charlie developed a sarcoid about a year after I had bought him. It was high up on the inside of his hind leg. Vet was called, he put a rubber ring on it (the type that they put in lambs tails), the sarcoid dried out and after a few weeks dropped of altogether.
Charlie was not in the least bit bothered by the ring when it was on, he was left with a tiny scar and it has never returned. Vet didn't even have to come out to check up on it.
It might not work for all sarcoids as some are more severe/aggressive then others but it is definitely worth asking the vet if it could be an option as I think it is one of the quickest and cheapest ways to remove them.
Good luck with the horse, would love to see pictures of her!
Charlie was not in the least bit bothered by the ring when it was on, he was left with a tiny scar and it has never returned. Vet didn't even have to come out to check up on it.
It might not work for all sarcoids as some are more severe/aggressive then others but it is definitely worth asking the vet if it could be an option as I think it is one of the quickest and cheapest ways to remove them.
Good luck with the horse, would love to see pictures of her!